OK, lock request, thanks for the (redundant) input

Page 7 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Status
Not open for further replies.

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
18,421
293
126
Was your license suspended by the CA DMV or just expired / voluntarily withdrawn?
I never had a license in CA, never attempted to obtain a license in CA, and thus was never denied a license in CA (nor had one revoked/suspended). Doesn't matter which state I obtained the license from. It is well-known among the full-time RV crowd that several states don't ask too many questions and have relatively low burden for establishing residency, because all they want is the money. As long as I meet one state's definition or standard for being or maintaining a residency there, providing that I haven't explicitly lied or provided false answers, I'm good to go. Its done all the time by millions of RV'ers.
 

boomhower

Diamond Member
Sep 13, 2007
7,228
19
81
The question is now why didn't you get the license? Just lazy? Can't pass the test?
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
48,513
221
106
I never had a license in CA, never attempted to obtain a license in CA, and thus was never denied a license in CA (nor had one revoked/suspended). Doesn't matter which state I obtained the license from. It is well-known among the full-time RV crowd that several states don't ask too many questions and have relatively low burden for establishing residency, because all they want is the money. As long as I meet one state's definition or standard for being or maintaining a residency there, providing that I haven't explicitly lied or provided false answers, I'm good to go. Its done all the time by millions of RV'ers.

Your opinion of "good to go" differs from mine. Are you an RV'er? I'm guessing not, since you don't drive very often at all (and when you do it's very short distances).

You live in CA, so you are under CA's laws. Even if you hold a license that's technically valid from another state, you're violating CA's license residency laws by holding an out of state license while residing in California.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
18,421
293
126
The laws are not specifically exemptions for RV'ers. Besides, its a moot point as that license has expired and I am going to try to get my license here. It was all a royal pain in the ass, really.
 
Last edited:

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
48,513
221
106
The laws are not specifically exemptions for RV'ers. Besides, its a moot point as that license has expired and I am going to try to get my license here. It was all a royal pain in the ass, really.

My point is that someone who's living in an RV has a legitimate purpose to having such a license, since they don't have one fixed "home" location. You are not transient, and therefore you fall under the California law that would require you to get a CA license. Finding a state with lenient licensing so you can avoid getting one in your home state is beyond sketchy.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
18,421
293
126
Actually, the length of time that a person has been living in a state merely constitutes or permits a "rebuttable presumption of residency". Look it up. It means that it only allows the state (or e.g. an officer doing a traffic stop) to "presume" your residency, but you can "rebut" or dispute that presumption of residency based on the actual "evidence of residency" that is established by the legislature, administrative rule-making, or the courts.

That's why the DMV uses the language "rebuttable presumption of residency". Again, none of the established or acceptable "evidence of residency" outlined by the DVM applies to me, except perhaps for a very liberal/permissive reading of the last one (because it is so vague). However, I DID substantially meet the established "evidence of residency" in another state (I don't anymore). When a person substantially meets the "evidence of residency" accepted in one state, but not the other state, one state must defer to the other. Full Faith and Credit, and all that jazz.

Perhaps it is "sketchy", but the law doesn't say anything about one's reasons for doing it must be free of "sketchyness" and courts have not found that one's reasons for doing so must be free of "sketchyness" (merely being advantageous or convenient to them is perfectly acceptable). Just free of objectively or materially false statements, which I haven't made.
 
Last edited:

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
48,513
221
106
Actually, the length of time that a person has been living in a state merely constitutes or permits a "rebuttable presumption of residency". Look it up. It means that it only allows the state (or e.g. an officer doing a traffic stop) to "presume" your residency, but you can "rebut" or dispute that presumption of residency based on the actual "evidence of residency" that is established by the legislature, administrative rule-making, or the courts.

That's why the DMV uses the language "rebuttable presumption of residency". Again, none of the established or acceptable "evidence of residency" outlined by the DVM applies to me, except perhaps for a very liberal/permissive reading of the last one (because it is so vague). However, I DID substantially meet the established "evidence of residency" in another state (I don't anymore). When a person substantially meets the "evidence of residency" accepted in one state, but not the other state, one state must defer to the other. Full Faith and Credit, and all that jazz.

Perhaps it is "sketchy", but the law doesn't say anything about one's reasons for doing it must be free of "sketchyness" and courts have not found that one's reasons for doing so must be free of "sketchyness" (merely being advantageous or convenient to them is perfectly acceptable). Just free of objectively or materially false statements, which I haven't made.

tcsenter said:
I had a valid license from another state from 2000 to 2004, and again from 2006 to 2010

"Resident" means any person who manifests an intent to live or be located in this state on more than a temporary or transient basis.
I'd say living somewhere for ten years qualifies you as someone located in that state on more than a temporary or transient basis. Do you disagree, or are you now going to tell me that you've lived these other states that you just said were out of state? You've been living unemployed and rent free for the last ten years as well?
 
Last edited:

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
18,421
293
126
"I'd say" your say-so doesn't really matter. The "evidence of residency" doesn't say "but after six months...two years...10 years, the person has established residency no matter what!" Sorry, doesn't work like that. I have not been employed and have never been party to a written rent or lease agreement in CA. And are you sure I've been residing in CA continuously for 10 years?
 

jlee

Lifer
Sep 12, 2001
48,513
221
106
"I'd say" your say-so doesn't really matter. The "evidence of residency" doesn't say "but after six months...two years...10 years, the person has established residency no matter what!" Sorry, doesn't work like that. I have not been employed and have never been party to a written rent or lease agreement in CA. And are you sure I've been residing in CA continuously for 10 years?

You specifically stated that you held a license from another state between 2000 and 2004 and 2006 and 2010. If you resided in the state from which the license was issued, then it would not be from another state.

lol, my "say-so" is the one that would be writing your ticket.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |