Ok so I skipped Vista & 7....should I download Win 8?

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Aikouka

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I used to say Vista was good too, and its ok, but do a fresh install and then do updates on it. Its a fucking nightmare. I did that with a Dell recently, the install disc was even SP1. It then proceeded to install over 5GB of updates before it would install SP2. To top it off, I think it actually ran worse after the fresh install (which also included a RAM upgrade from 3GB to 4GB). It was the 64bit version too. It took like 4 hours and was updated

When I wrote my first post in this thread, I originally had a part about the sheer amount of patching being Vista's only downfall today. I rewrote the entire thing before posting, so that got nix'd, but it's not wrong. Essentially, the same thing will most likely happen to Windows 7 around when Windows 8 comes out (or possibly a bit after).

I remember when I was rebuilding my mom's computer, and I had to reinstall Vista on it. It literally took me installing patches starting from early evening to the next morning (I did sleep in that time, so don't think it was continuous -- on second thought, I should have just enabled automatic installing). I believe a Windows 7 install usually takes me about an hour after the OS is done to have everything up and going (including drivers and updates).
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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wtf you talking about idiot. I dont even drink. You see to troll alot of threads and just pretend to know what your talking about.

Retarded it is then. I figured it was one or the other. Thanks for clearing that up :^D

You need a new hobby dude. While I'm flattered you follow me around, and spout rambling nonsense(your last 2 posts were impressively lucid; well done :^D), you could find a better use for your time. Remedial education would be a worthwhile goal ;^)
 

nageov3t

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assuming you had a machine capable of running it correctly, I never really understood the Vista hate.

I was running it until just recently, when a coworker pointed out that Win 7 supports remote desktop across multiple monitors (running different resolutions) flawlessly.
 

ElFenix

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I used to say Vista was good too, and its ok, but do a fresh install and then do updates on it. Its a fucking nightmare. I did that with a Dell recently, the install disc was even SP1. It then proceeded to install over 5GB of updates before it would install SP2. To top it off, I think it actually ran worse after the fresh install (which also included a RAM upgrade from 3GB to 4GB). It was the 64bit version too. It took like 4 hours and was updated

I also did a fresh install of WinXP MCE 2005 at the same time, and it took maybe an hour to get it all the way updated (SP3 and beyond), on older, slower hardware (an Athlon 64 X2 with a whopping 2GB of RAM and old slow 160GB HDD).

People who say XP was the best apparently forgot what a mess it was off and on until about SP2. It wasn't ever completely terrible (certainly no ME), but it wasn't all that great either.

for my laptop's 8th birthday it's getting a new XP install (old one was 6 years old). i figure it'll maybe help speed it up a tiny bit. at the very least, i can be fairly sure there's no spyware/virii etc. but, patching has taken since thursday.


assuming you had a machine capable of running it correctly, I never really understood the Vista hate.

I was running it until just recently, when a coworker pointed out that Win 7 supports remote desktop across multiple monitors (running different resolutions) flawlessly.

it's been a piece of junk on my work computer ever since i got the thing. slow, slow, and more slow.
 

bbhaag

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Some of you guys are nuts if you think XP doesn't deserve some props. It was the first modern day Microsoft OS to incorporate many of the features we use today and take for granted. It laid the ground work for Vista and 7 hands down.


Is it old? Hell ya. Is it buggy? Hell ya. Does it deserve to be put in the same bin as ME? Hell no.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Some of you guys are nuts if you think XP doesn't deserve some props. It was the first modern day Microsoft OS to incorporate many of the features we use today and take for granted. It laid the ground work for Vista and 7 hands down.


Is it old? Hell ya. Is it buggy? Hell ya. Does it deserve to be put in the same bin as ME? Hell no.

:hmm:

WWYBYWB?
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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For all you guys who dont know better: There is no Windows 7.

Go to MSCONFIG, enable verbose booting, restart your system and tell me what you see.

Or, you can just type "ver" from the command prompt. Windows "7" is only a marketing name, the actual software version is 6.1.

In other words, even Microsoft's development team thinks that it's a minor release... it's basically a patch for version 6 (Windows Vista).
 

Mike Gayner

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Or, you can just type "ver" from the command prompt. Windows "7" is only a marketing name, the actual software version is 6.1.

In other words, even Microsoft's development team thinks that it's a minor release... it's basically a patch for version 6 (Windows Vista).

LOL wow, you're a moron.
 

zinfamous

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when are they gonna run out of cats?

how about Apple release a new operating system rather than all those service packs that they charge $50-100 for?

Not hating on OS, it is a great operating system...I just take issue with their "updates"


Win 7 is glorious.
 

bbhaag

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:hmm:

WWYBYWB?
Just a man who found his way here much like you did and decided to post in a topic that piqued his interest. Never been banned and most likely never will be.

On a side note had anyone heard of USB support before XP? Most of us had not and that's just one of the many things that XP paved the way for.
 

GoSharks

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Some of you guys are nuts if you think XP doesn't deserve some props. It was the first modern day Microsoft OS to incorporate many of the features we use today and take for granted. It laid the ground work for Vista and 7 hands down.

Windows 2000 was a far bigger leap IMO.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
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Just a man who found his way here much like you did and decided to post in a topic that piqued his interest. Never been banned and most likely never will be.

On a side note had anyone heard of USB support before XP? Most of us had not and that's just one of the many things that XP paved the way for.

Heh... Windows has had USB support since Windows 95 OSR2... which predates XP by 4 years! Windows 98 was the first release that promoted it.
 

SAWYER

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Apr 27, 2000
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lol@vista bandwagon bashing

Is there a bigger and more ridiculous tech boogeyman than vista?
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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XP sucks horribly. Anyone saying that Vista, at this time, is worse than XP, is either a troll or too resistant to change. Can't blame those that have to use it because of businesses of extremely outdated systems, though.

The interface in Vista is miles ahead of XP, it's much more secure, and small annoyances like UAC can be either disabled or made less intrusive. It also supports newer technologies (3TB+ HDDs, DirectX 11, TRIM, to name a few), and driver support and issues with the OS have been solved since SP1. Windows 7 is slightly better than Vista in terms of the UI, resource usage, and boot times.
 
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Kadarin

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The last Windows machine I had was running Vista, and it had no issues and worked fine. Sadly, something on the mobo decided to pop and start smoking, so it was suddenly and forcibly decommissioned... In the next few months, however, I'll be building a gaming PC using Win7.
 

Dirigible

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I sit in front of my windows XP computer, watching porn and touching myself as I think of FelixDeKat. Why? Because XP is awesome and FDK is awesomely sexy.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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when are they gonna run out of cats?

how about Apple release a new operating system rather than all those service packs that they charge $50-100 for?

Not hating on OS, it is a great operating system...I just take issue with their "updates"


Win 7 is glorious.

They're actually full install discs and they're only $30.
 

Oil

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when are they gonna run out of cats?

how about Apple release a new operating system rather than all those service packs that they charge $50-100 for?

Not hating on OS, it is a great operating system...I just take issue with their "updates"


Win 7 is glorious.

Snow Leopard and the upcoming Lion are $30 each.

If one upgraded a XP computer from 2006 to Vista then W7, it would roughly cost $100 for each OS or $200.

To do the same for an Intel Mac from 2006 it would cost $190: from Tiger to Leopard ($130) to Snow Leopard ($30) to Lion ($30).

Not much of a price difference
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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XP is an outdated POS. Only people who think they are good with technology and think they are being geeky still use it, or people so ignorant and stubborn they don't want to change, or businesses.
I still use it actively, though not on my main system. Only for my standard VM image (XP is perfect for a 512MB VM) and the folks systems (lot of legacy hardware).
 
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