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ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston


No not all of them are sexually dysfunctional, alot of them are just very loney and lacking something in their life. You are stereotyping. There is always risk in the biz, but if the laws weren't set up the way they are the women in the biz could be better protected from the creeps who are out there looking to take their aggressions out on these women. Those are the kind of men who think that the ladies in the biz will not report them because of the line of work they are in.

Most of my special friends have treated me with more respect and kindness than then men I have met just dating in the civilian world. That has been my experience. Theres so much you don't know. In addition whose morals are you talking about? Everyone has their own set of morals, my morals differ from yours. You cannot govern Morality or legislate Virtue. It just doesn't work. But I do respect your opinion.

Hugs,
Val

I understand everything you are saying, but for me it comes down to risk vs reward. Are you willing to accept that your life may end at the hands of an aggressive SOB for money? I know that driving to work in the morning poses a risk to all of us, that you can generalize about anything that we do. But at the end of the day you are seeing more men per week than most women probably see in a year, exponentially raising the chances that someone will hurt you. That is what I find scary about people that choose your profession, hell you hear about crimes against women in your field every day.


Your making assumptions about me now. I take more of a risk getting on my Harley everyday not wearing a helmut! I take more of a risk going out to the bars on Fridays and Saturdays hanging with my girlfriends never knowing when I walk to my car if some idiot is going to try and hit me over the head and kidnap me. Actually, statistically speaking the SW's are the ones who get beaten up and killed the most. I am not a SW. Escort/Companions have a very, very low risk of something happening to them. There are more civilian women who are killed, raped, mugged on a daily basis than your average prostitute. You know why? Because they do not know how to be aware of their surroundings, nor have they learned to read people within a matter of seconds. Most women in the profession have a sort of 6th sense about them with people and generally can dodge trouble very quickly. Nothing is 100 percent foolproof. But then in alot of profession the same applies. You could be that attorney that was on the news be shot at by your client who didn't like the outcome of the trial. Or the wife of the football player who beats you up all the time. Maybe your the construction worker who works on those tall buildings and takes the risks everyday of serious injury or death on the job. Lots of professions have their risks.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I would imagine that it's far better to be getting paid for your time and attentions than it is to be the one paying . All superfical pleasantries aside,most people who are smart enough to make a healthy living are also smart enough to understand that the only trait they have that's wanted by their companion is what's in their wallets, the painful reality of that stark fact must surface at least occasionally no matter how hard it's actively surpressed .

Val,I'm not at all surprised that your "special friends" treat you well, they probably know only to well what it is to be considered an outcast or undesirable socially . I would imagine that the inner landscape of a lot of your clients must be rather sad and that even your most geniune interactions with many of them must leave a rather bittersweet
feeling within them .


My special friends and I share alot together, and we have some common bonds. I do feel for some of them. I am compassionate with them. I give them my respect and I don't judge them. I try to make them laugh and feel comfortable and at ease. I am to them a temporary escape from their harsh reality. I know I cannot do this for much longer, for my health is most important. That is why I am seeking college courses and getting into computers. But I have learned alot from this industry and respect the women who are in the profession. I do not look down on the men who patronize these women. I now know why most of them do go to these women. People are just to easily bought by the media propaganda and stereotyping. LE only lets you see the worst case scenarios to scare the public. They don't let you see the whole picture and its sad.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I would imagine that it's far better to be getting paid for your time and attentions than it is to be the one paying . All superfical pleasantries aside,most people who are smart enough to make a healthy living are also smart enough to understand that the only trait they have that's wanted by their companion is what's in their wallets, the painful reality of that stark fact must surface at least occasionally no matter how hard it's actively surpressed .

Val,I'm not at all surprised that your "special friends" treat you well, they probably know only to well what it is to be considered an outcast or undesirable socially . I would imagine that the inner landscape of a lot of your clients must be rather sad and that even your most geniune interactions with many of them must leave a rather bittersweet
feeling within them .


My special friends and I share alot together, and we have some common bonds. I do feel for some of them. I am compassionate with them. I give them my respect and I don't judge them. I try to make them laugh and feel comfortable and at ease. I am to them a temporary escape from their harsh reality. I know I cannot do this for much longer, for my health is most important. That is why I am seeking college courses and getting into computers. But I have learned alot from this industry and respect the women who are in the profession. I do not look down on the men who patronize these women. I now know why most of them do go to these women. People are just to easily bought by the media propaganda and stereotyping. LE only lets you see the worst case scenarios to scare the public. They don't let you see the whole picture and its sad.


I'm sure you're very pleasant and respectful of your clients . I'm just speaking about their underlying emotional landscape.Supression is a powerful mind tool but it must be bleak at the end of the day when you can no longer surpress the fact that the only reason your companion is with you is because of what you buy/do for them .People who are bright enough to earn the money it takes to pay for a high powered escort's services are usually also bright enough to at least occasionally have some flashes of insight that strips away any superfical illusions thay might be trying to hold onto . Those flashs of insight must be very bleak and painful .
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: tm37
We also remember what it was like to be your age. I am 31 but I moved out of mommy's house when I was 18, I have been married for 9 1/2 years and I have two kids. I am currently the Service manager for the largest builder of audiology equiptment. Trust me I have seen more than you.

I understand and agree that you've seen more than I have in life, but as much as I give credit to you for your experience, I'd like the same respect for what I've experienced.

And my only problem with your belief system is your need to talk down at those who disagree. Notice I did not talk down to you for being a closed minded fool only for your holier than thou attitude.

I don't *need* to talk down to others. I have quite the open mind and I've decided, through experience, that I still morally/ethically/whatever disapprove of certain lifestyles and other things. Being open minded doesn't mean that you approve of everything.

Attacking others simply because you feel you are the only one that understands the w2ay it should be? I got no problem with you doing that your little world but when you show up to play with the big boys you will be in for a shock. Those who spend there time looking at others for flaws rarely are able to see there own.

I spent a goodly number of years ignoring flaws in those I loved and all it got me was grief. Ignoring flaws is never a good thing. It's not my intention to attack others for their flaws just to attack them. If you can't take some constructive criticism and benefit from it, that's your problem, not mine. Oh noes, someone insulted me? What am I going to do with it? If I can actually learn from that criticism, awesome. If it's not constructive, I just brush it off or have some fun with it by throwing it right back in a big ol' flame war. Like I said, if you can't take constructive criticism and do something benefitial with it, that's not my problem.

She seems happy and her SO has accepted her chosen profession. She is able to work her hours on her terms and make more than both of us. She seems happy with herself and also sees no need to attack other to make herself seem better than she is.

Well, according to you, attacking others for their beliefs isn't necessary and yet she's done so in this thread. She's not so perfect as you would paint her to be, even by your standards.

You clai to be happy because you accept who you are yet that is not how she should be. I look at people and see who they are, I try my best not to judge, I am happy where I am but not content because I can do better and I will do better. Success is not a destination but a journey and if you think that she is a BAD PERSON for her perfession you are the one who is unhappy.

I'm not sure how you can say that because I do think as much about her profession and I'm still quite happy with myself.

I am sure that VAl gets treated with more respect by her "clients" that you treat anyone on your "dates" You are judgemental of others and attack them solely to feed your own ego. I only hope that the persona that you have online is not the same as you have in person.

Until you go on a date with me, you'll never know how much or how little I respect them. So either pony up or stop making judgement calls that you have no possible room to make. How does telling a prostitute that she needs to get out of prostitution going to feed my ego, Mr. Man? Hmm?
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: tm37
We also remember what it was like to be your age. I am 31 but I moved out of mommy's house when I was 18, I have been married for 9 1/2 years and I have two kids. I am currently the Service manager for the largest builder of audiology equiptment. Trust me I have seen more than you.

I understand and agree that you've seen more than I have in life, but as much as I give credit to you for your experience, I'd like the same respect for what I've experienced.

And my only problem with your belief system is your need to talk down at those who disagree. Notice I did not talk down to you for being a closed minded fool only for your holier than thou attitude.

I don't *need* to talk down to others. I have quite the open mind and I've decided, through experience, that I still morally/ethically/whatever disapprove of certain lifestyles and other things. Being open minded doesn't mean that you approve of everything.

Attacking others simply because you feel you are the only one that understands the w2ay it should be? I got no problem with you doing that your little world but when you show up to play with the big boys you will be in for a shock. Those who spend there time looking at others for flaws rarely are able to see there own.

I spent a goodly number of years ignoring flaws in those I loved and all it got me was grief. Ignoring flaws is never a good thing. It's not my intention to attack others for their flaws just to attack them. If you can't take some constructive criticism and benefit from it, that's your problem, not mine. Oh noes, someone insulted me? What am I going to do with it? If I can actually learn from that criticism, awesome. If it's not constructive, I just brush it off or have some fun with it by throwing it right back in a big ol' flame war. Like I said, if you can't take constructive criticism and do something benefitial with it, that's not my problem.

She seems happy and her SO has accepted her chosen profession. She is able to work her hours on her terms and make more than both of us. She seems happy with herself and also sees no need to attack other to make herself seem better than she is.

Well, according to you, attacking others for their beliefs isn't necessary and yet she's done so in this thread. She's not so perfect as you would paint her to be, even by your standards.

You clai to be happy because you accept who you are yet that is not how she should be. I look at people and see who they are, I try my best not to judge, I am happy where I am but not content because I can do better and I will do better. Success is not a destination but a journey and if you think that she is a BAD PERSON for her perfession you are the one who is unhappy.

I'm not sure how you can say that because I do think as much about her profession and I'm still quite happy with myself.

I am sure that VAl gets treated with more respect by her "clients" that you treat anyone on your "dates" You are judgemental of others and attack them solely to feed your own ego. I only hope that the persona that you have online is not the same as you have in person.

Until you go on a date with me, you'll never know how much or how little I respect them. So either pony up or stop making judgement calls that you have no possible room to make. How does telling a prostitute that she needs to get out of prostitution going to feed my ego, Mr. Man? Hmm?



I think part of the problem here Nik is that you haven't yet learned that the only person you can/should give lists about what they should or should not do is to yourself , particularly when the person is question was not asking for your advice about their chosen profession .
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I think part of the problem here Nik is that you haven't yet learned that the only person you can/should give lists about what they should or should not do is to yourself , particularly when the person is question was not asking for your advice about their chosen profession .

While partially true, if humans never gave any advice to anyone else, this world would be quite different -and not for the better. How can you say that the only person anyone should be giving advice to is themselves when, by doing so, you're not following that same advice?

Are you going to apply that advice to everyone else in this thread who's been much, MUCH more rude to her than I have or those barking "lists" at me?
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I think part of the problem here Nik is that you haven't yet learned that the only person you can/should give lists about what they should or should not do is to yourself , particularly when the person is question was not asking for your advice about their chosen profession .

While partially true, if humans never gave any advice to anyone else, this world would be quite different -and not for the better. How can you say that the only person anyone should be giving advice to is themselves when, by doing so, you're not following that same advice?

Are you going to apply that advice to everyone else in this thread who's been much, MUCH more rude to her than I have or those barking "lists" at me?



I have the most problems with people who say one thing but do another . In that respect I will give you credit for at least being consistant , you aren't in this thread ragging on Val while being in other threads drooling about what fun strip clubs and other erotic entertainments are ,those are the folks who need a big thumping down imho .
 

sonz70

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Something that was sort of pointed out, but not really touched on. Clients typically treat escorts with a very high level of repect, no matter what the outcome or purpose of the evening is. Aswell, vice versa. And personaly Nik, I am glad you are happy in your chosen career, though being more open minded might be of use to you in the military, especially when you visit other countries where the customs are not the same.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I would imagine that it's far better to be getting paid for your time and attentions than it is to be the one paying . All superfical pleasantries aside,most people who are smart enough to make a healthy living are also smart enough to understand that the only trait they have that's wanted by their companion is what's in their wallets, the painful reality of that stark fact must surface at least occasionally no matter how hard it's actively surpressed .

Val,I'm not at all surprised that your "special friends" treat you well, they probably know only to well what it is to be considered an outcast or undesirable socially . I would imagine that the inner landscape of a lot of your clients must be rather sad and that even your most geniune interactions with many of them must leave a rather bittersweet
feeling within them .


My special friends and I share alot together, and we have some common bonds. I do feel for some of them. I am compassionate with them. I give them my respect and I don't judge them. I try to make them laugh and feel comfortable and at ease. I am to them a temporary escape from their harsh reality. I know I cannot do this for much longer, for my health is most important. That is why I am seeking college courses and getting into computers. But I have learned alot from this industry and respect the women who are in the profession. I do not look down on the men who patronize these women. I now know why most of them do go to these women. People are just to easily bought by the media propaganda and stereotyping. LE only lets you see the worst case scenarios to scare the public. They don't let you see the whole picture and its sad.


I'm sure you're very pleasant and respectful of your clients . I'm just speaking about their underlying emotional landscape.Supression is a powerful mind tool but it must be bleak at the end of the day when you can no longer surpress the fact that the only reason your companion is with you is because of what you buy/do for them .People who are bright enough to earn the money it takes to pay for a high powered escort's services are usually also bright enough to at least occasionally have some flashes of insight that strips away any superfical illusions thay might be trying to hold onto . Those flashs of insight must be very bleak and painful .


Yes, I do agree with this. Sometimes I feel like I am more of a therapist than anything else at times. Someone told me once that they feel like I give them a little bit of heaven even if it is only for a little while. That made me smile. I also remember one person that just wanted to hold me and cry, because his wife was dying, and he just needed someone to hear his grief. I gave that to him.
 

SuperSix

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Something my grandfather taught me: "Son, there's no such thing as free pussy!"

It is GOSPEL.

While I do appreciate older women, (my soon to be ex is 13 years older than me) and agree with the statements made about them in this post, If I was to pay for a soiree, it would be with a younger woman. I don't think the ability level between Late 20's/early 30's and nearly 40 year oldprofessional sex workers would be that different.

Would I ever get involved romantically with a sex worker? No - as even after the relationship was established, I would still have to use condoms.

WWDPS? (What would Dr. Phil Say?)



 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Something my grandfather taught me: "Son, there's no such thing as free pussy!"

It is GOSPEL.

While I do appreciate older women, (my soon to be ex is 13 years older than me) and agree with the statements made about them in this post, If I was to pay for a soiree, it would be with a younger woman.

And I don't think the ability level between Late 20's/early 30's and nearly 40 <b>professional</b> sex workers would be that different.

Would I ever get involved romantically with a sex worker? No - as even after the relationship was established, I would still have to use condoms.

WWDPS? (What would Dr. Phil Say?)

You should always use condoms regardless if you are having sex with an escort or a girlfriend. You should always use protection period.

 

Ilmater

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You people are really amazing. So she shouldn't do it because she could be killed in her job? You can be killed working at a convenience store. You can be killed working in a bad part of any large city.

People, this is really simple. While YOU may place moral implications to sex, it doesn't HAVE to be that way for everyone. Also, many men benefit from her services, and not just in a sexual way.

There is only one moral issue (note that I didn't use the word "problem," but instead chose "issue") that is universal: some people link sex with real emotions. No matter your stance on this issue, this fact is undeniable. That means that SOME men will have emotional attachments to "escorts." Sometimes that means that the men will believe that she truly cares for them (whether that's partly true or not) and it could really help them to have that bond. Others can become dependant on that connection, and that's where the problems lie.

But I feel it is just as universal and undeniable that nobody can say for sure one way or the other on this issue (although religious ideals will cloud this).

OK, that's enough. This isn't P&N. Val, you look fine. I'm hoping that you weren't expecting a universally positive reaction here because that has NEVER happened.
 

SuperSix

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Something my grandfather taught me: "Son, there's no such thing as free pussy!"

It is GOSPEL.

While I do appreciate older women, (my soon to be ex is 13 years older than me) and agree with the statements made about them in this post, If I was to pay for a soiree, it would be with a younger woman.

And I don't think the ability level between Late 20's/early 30's and nearly 40 <b>professional</b> sex workers would be that different.

Would I ever get involved romantically with a sex worker? No - as even after the relationship was established, I would still have to use condoms.

WWDPS? (What would Dr. Phil Say?)

You should always use condoms regardless if you are having sex with an escort or a girlfriend. You should always use protection period.


Really? Even after an established relationship? When can you not? After marraige? If so, how long after marraige? I could NEVER have sex w/o a condom with my wife if she was a sex worker.
 

SuperSix

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
You people are really amazing. So she shouldn't do it because she could be killed in her job? You can be killed working at a convenience store. You can be killed working in a bad part of any large city.

People, this is really simple. While YOU may place moral implications to sex, it doesn't HAVE to be that way for everyone. Also, many men benefit from her services, and not just in a sexual way.

There is only one moral issue (note that I didn't use the word "problem," but instead chose "issue") that is universal: some people link sex with real emotions. No matter your stance on this issue, this fact is undeniable. That means that SOME men will have emotional attachments to "escorts." Sometimes that means that the men will believe that she truly cares for them (whether that's partly true or not) and it could really help them to have that bond. Others can become dependant on that connection, and that's where the problems lie.

But I feel it is just as universal and undeniable that nobody can say for sure one way or the other on this issue (although religious ideals will cloud this).

OK, that's enough. This isn't P&N. Val, you look fine. I'm hoping that you weren't expecting a universally positive reaction here because that has NEVER happened.

I didn't say I cared what she did. I said *I* don't want to take a chance with my life because my SO decides she wants to fsck strange men for a living.

More power to her - she seems intelligent, sexy, independant, I was simply voicing my opinion.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Something my grandfather taught me: "Son, there's no such thing as free pussy!"

It is GOSPEL.

While I do appreciate older women, (my soon to be ex is 13 years older than me) and agree with the statements made about them in this post, If I was to pay for a soiree, it would be with a younger woman.

And I don't think the ability level between Late 20's/early 30's and nearly 40 <b>professional</b> sex workers would be that different.

Would I ever get involved romantically with a sex worker? No - as even after the relationship was established, I would still have to use condoms.

WWDPS? (What would Dr. Phil Say?)

You should always use condoms regardless if you are having sex with an escort or a girlfriend. You should always use protection period.


Really? Even after an established relationship? When can you not? After marraige? If so, how long after marraige? I could NEVER have sex w/o a condom with my wife if she was a sex worker.

Marriage is one thing, girlfriend totally different issue. As far as marrying a sex worker that is a trust issue and one that is personal between the two of you. Most legitimate sex workers I know always use protection, see a doctor every three months and have the gammit of tests done right down to the throat swab cultures. They do not want to jeopardize their health nor that of the ones they love. I know some that have been in the business for 20 years and have never caught anything except a yeast infection, and that is common to all women. This just goes back to your stereotyping. I went online to the CDC and some other sources to find out if prostitutes were the biggest carriers or spreaders of std's and found out that this was not the case. Go online to the national CDC and do your research. You will find some very enlightening information there.

 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I would imagine that it's far better to be getting paid for your time and attentions than it is to be the one paying . All superfical pleasantries aside,most people who are smart enough to make a healthy living are also smart enough to understand that the only trait they have that's wanted by their companion is what's in their wallets, the painful reality of that stark fact must surface at least occasionally no matter how hard it's actively surpressed .

Val,I'm not at all surprised that your "special friends" treat you well, they probably know only to well what it is to be considered an outcast or undesirable socially . I would imagine that the inner landscape of a lot of your clients must be rather sad and that even your most geniune interactions with many of them must leave a rather bittersweet
feeling within them .


My special friends and I share alot together, and we have some common bonds. I do feel for some of them. I am compassionate with them. I give them my respect and I don't judge them. I try to make them laugh and feel comfortable and at ease. I am to them a temporary escape from their harsh reality. I know I cannot do this for much longer, for my health is most important. That is why I am seeking college courses and getting into computers. But I have learned alot from this industry and respect the women who are in the profession. I do not look down on the men who patronize these women. I now know why most of them do go to these women. People are just to easily bought by the media propaganda and stereotyping. LE only lets you see the worst case scenarios to scare the public. They don't let you see the whole picture and its sad.


I'm sure you're very pleasant and respectful of your clients . I'm just speaking about their underlying emotional landscape.Supression is a powerful mind tool but it must be bleak at the end of the day when you can no longer surpress the fact that the only reason your companion is with you is because of what you buy/do for them .People who are bright enough to earn the money it takes to pay for a high powered escort's services are usually also bright enough to at least occasionally have some flashes of insight that strips away any superfical illusions thay might be trying to hold onto . Those flashs of insight must be very bleak and painful .


Yes, I do agree with this. Sometimes I feel like I am more of a therapist than anything else at times. Someone told me once that they feel like I give them a little bit of heaven even if it is only for a little while. That made me smile. I also remember one person that just wanted to hold me and cry, because his wife was dying, and he just needed someone to hear his grief. I gave that to him.


I would imagine your job must be difficult at times in that to interact so closely and intimately with people at base you must at least like men and enjoy dealing with them . That being the case you must have exceptional strong boundaries in order to not allow their pain to taint your inner perspective and spill over in a negative way into yur personal life .
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Something my grandfather taught me: "Son, there's no such thing as free pussy!"

It is GOSPEL.

While I do appreciate older women, (my soon to be ex is 13 years older than me) and agree with the statements made about them in this post, If I was to pay for a soiree, it would be with a younger woman.

And I don't think the ability level between Late 20's/early 30's and nearly 40 <b>professional</b> sex workers would be that different.

Would I ever get involved romantically with a sex worker? No - as even after the relationship was established, I would still have to use condoms.

WWDPS? (What would Dr. Phil Say?)

You should always use condoms regardless if you are having sex with an escort or a girlfriend. You should always use protection period.


Really? Even after an established relationship? When can you not? After marraige? If so, how long after marraige? I could NEVER have sex w/o a condom with my wife if she was a sex worker.

Marriage is one thing, girlfriend totally different issue. As far as marrying a sex worker that is a trust issue and one that is personal between the two of you. Most legitimate sex workers I know always use protection, see a doctor every three months and have the gammit of tests done right down to the throat swab cultures. They do not want to jeopardize their health nor that of the ones they love. I know some that have been in the business for 20 years and have never caught anything except a yeast infection, and that is common to all women. This just goes back to your stereotyping. I went online to the CDC and some other sources to find out if prostitutes were the biggest carriers or spreaders of std's and found out that this was not the case. Go online to the national CDC and do your research. You will find some very enlightening information there.


I do believe that IVDA are the biggest threat to the hetrosexual public in terms of things like Hep B and C and HIV. Opiate use is all the rage in many circles and one cannot always tell who is using.
 

Ilmater

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm sure you're very pleasant and respectful of your clients . I'm just speaking about their underlying emotional landscape.Supression is a powerful mind tool but it must be bleak at the end of the day when you can no longer surpress the fact that the only reason your companion is with you is because of what you buy/do for them .People who are bright enough to earn the money it takes to pay for a high powered escort's services are usually also bright enough to at least occasionally have some flashes of insight that strips away any superfical illusions thay might be trying to hold onto . Those flashs of insight must be very bleak and painful .
My real estate agent doesn't really care about me and neither does my financial planner, and they both want to keep in touch with me, invite me to company barbecues, and wouldn't be there if it weren't for the money. Does that mean I have bouts of bleak and painful insight when I realize they really just want to make money from me?

Nope.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm sure you're very pleasant and respectful of your clients . I'm just speaking about their underlying emotional landscape.Supression is a powerful mind tool but it must be bleak at the end of the day when you can no longer surpress the fact that the only reason your companion is with you is because of what you buy/do for them .People who are bright enough to earn the money it takes to pay for a high powered escort's services are usually also bright enough to at least occasionally have some flashes of insight that strips away any superfical illusions thay might be trying to hold onto . Those flashs of insight must be very bleak and painful .
My real estate agent doesn't really care about me and neither does my financial planner, and they both want to keep in touch with me, invite me to company barbecues, and wouldn't be there if it weren't for the money. Does that mean I have bouts of bleak and painful insight when I realize they really just want to make money from me?

Nope.

Sex and real estate don't carry the same level of emotional involvement.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I would imagine that it's far better to be getting paid for your time and attentions than it is to be the one paying . All superfical pleasantries aside,most people who are smart enough to make a healthy living are also smart enough to understand that the only trait they have that's wanted by their companion is what's in their wallets, the painful reality of that stark fact must surface at least occasionally no matter how hard it's actively surpressed .

Val,I'm not at all surprised that your "special friends" treat you well, they probably know only to well what it is to be considered an outcast or undesirable socially . I would imagine that the inner landscape of a lot of your clients must be rather sad and that even your most geniune interactions with many of them must leave a rather bittersweet
feeling within them .


My special friends and I share alot together, and we have some common bonds. I do feel for some of them. I am compassionate with them. I give them my respect and I don't judge them. I try to make them laugh and feel comfortable and at ease. I am to them a temporary escape from their harsh reality. I know I cannot do this for much longer, for my health is most important. That is why I am seeking college courses and getting into computers. But I have learned alot from this industry and respect the women who are in the profession. I do not look down on the men who patronize these women. I now know why most of them do go to these women. People are just to easily bought by the media propaganda and stereotyping. LE only lets you see the worst case scenarios to scare the public. They don't let you see the whole picture and its sad.


I'm sure you're very pleasant and respectful of your clients . I'm just speaking about their underlying emotional landscape.Supression is a powerful mind tool but it must be bleak at the end of the day when you can no longer surpress the fact that the only reason your companion is with you is because of what you buy/do for them .People who are bright enough to earn the money it takes to pay for a high powered escort's services are usually also bright enough to at least occasionally have some flashes of insight that strips away any superfical illusions thay might be trying to hold onto . Those flashs of insight must be very bleak and painful .


Yes, I do agree with this. Sometimes I feel like I am more of a therapist than anything else at times. Someone told me once that they feel like I give them a little bit of heaven even if it is only for a little while. That made me smile. I also remember one person that just wanted to hold me and cry, because his wife was dying, and he just needed someone to hear his grief. I gave that to him.


I would imagine your job must be difficult at times in that to interact so closely and intimately with people at base you must at least like men and enjoy dealing with them . That being the case you must have exceptional strong boundaries in order to not allow their pain to taint your inner perspective and spill over in a negative way into yur personal life .

Yes it is like riding a fence, you have to know where to draw the line. Setting boundaries can be difficult at times. But I'm human. and so are alot of the ladies in the biz. It takes a very special person to do this. It does take it's toll on you over time. Especially if you are open and compassionate. There are some women who become very hardened and eventually end up hating men. I don't want to be one of those. I care for people.

My goal right now, is to focus on slowly getting out of the industry... but that takes time and money. Computer classes first. So that is what I am looking into. I'm trying to figure out Adobe photoshop 7.0 and Corell draw and would like very much to learn Website Development. I have a very creative side. Even after I venture into a new career I will still remain a very active advocate of the sex work industry though.

 
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