Okay, quick: Can anyone help me troll Christian fundie Vicki Thorn?

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cheesehead

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this.
like i said before, she's speaking on a topic she feels strongly about and has, what she feels is, sufficient scientific data to help support her beliefs. she's just expressing a theory. you really want to waste your time trying to troll someone who's humbly offering her theory?

Yes.

The nature of the scientific method is that all ideas are equally valid for criticism. By severely misquoting others' life work and then exempting herself from rational counterpoints, she's defeating the point of rational thought.

I've had to deal with the less pleasant long-term results of "Christian Scienceism." Christ is all very nice until you're dying or pregnant or destitute. At that point, Jesus apparently don't care no more.

I refuse to make invalid arguments. I won't create strawmen or red herrings or make lousy ad-hominem arguments. But under every bad pile of nonsense are a few easily disproven lies, and I would hope to highlight them to those who might otherwise accept them out of hand.

Funny thing is, I just heard a speech by a Rabbi who did exactly that. Religion doesn't get a free pass on criticism.
 

Jeff7

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Yes.

The nature of the scientific method is that all ideas are equally valid for criticism. By severely misquoting others' life work and then exempting herself from rational counterpoints, she's defeating the point of rational thought.

I've had to deal with the less pleasant long-term results of "Christian Scienceism." Christ is all very nice until you're dying or pregnant or destitute. At that point, Jesus apparently don't care no more.

I refuse to make invalid arguments. I won't create strawmen or red herrings or make lousy ad-hominem arguments. But under every bad pile of nonsense are a few easily disproven lies, and I would hope to highlight them to those who might otherwise accept them out of hand.

Funny thing is, I just heard a speech by a Rabbi who did exactly that. Religion doesn't get a free pass on criticism.
If she's a Christian Fundamentalist, or embraces "Christian science," then she's already managed to defeat a great deal of rational thought within her own mind.





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waggy

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lol.

you wan't to troll her yet need help? oh wish i could see the failure that is going to happen.
 

Jeff7

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If she's a Christian Fundamentalist, or embraces "Christian science," then she's already managed to defeat a great deal of rational thought within her own mind.
Ah crap, I must've really pissed off god - yesterday I put the pair of 2000-Flushes tablets into the toilet tank (blue + bleach), but when I headed into the bathroom a few minutes ago, the toilet water was red! It's the modern day plagues! Red toilet water! Loss of cellphone reception! Ungrounded outlets! Unbound shoe heels!

Time to go repent or something, right?





(Seriously though, why would the water have turned red? The water in the tank is still blue. Crab people?)
 
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natto fire

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You seem to be confusing forums and real life.

Not really, being a douche is being a douche, whether on the internet or in real life.

BTW, I wasn't using your initial post as an example, because it's a valid question. I am talking about the grade A thread crapping, especially common in the polarizing topics such as the Apple threads.
 

LookBehindYou

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My guess is that someone who has to create a thread asking people how to troll someone IRL probably doesn't have the balls to do it anyway. But it's OK, we'll pretend you're cool for wanting to troll someone IRL. You can come back and tell us how you really got her good at the lecture. We'll believe everything you say.
 

Dr. Zaus

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My guess is that someone who has to create a thread asking people how to troll someone IRL probably doesn't have the balls to do it anyway. But it's OK, we'll pretend you're cool for wanting to troll someone IRL. You can come back and tell us how you really got her good at the lecture. We'll believe everything you say.

I always believe internet tough guys: mostly because they are rich, super smart, get all the hot babes and are ultra-strong.
 
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Ask her if obama is a Muslim.

Ask why people confuse theology with science so easily?

I told that to a science teacher at a private christian school once. "I don't care if it (creatinism) is tought. Teach it in a theology class, not in a science class." The obviousness of this statement was evident by her look as though a 2x4 just hit her in the head.
 

Linflas

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Yes.

The nature of the scientific method is that all ideas are equally valid for criticism. By severely misquoting others' life work and then exempting herself from rational counterpoints, she's defeating the point of rational thought.

I've had to deal with the less pleasant long-term results of "Christian Scienceism." Christ is all very nice until you're dying or pregnant or destitute. At that point, Jesus apparently don't care no more.

I refuse to make invalid arguments. I won't create strawmen or red herrings or make lousy ad-hominem arguments. But under every bad pile of nonsense are a few easily disproven lies, and I would hope to highlight them to those who might otherwise accept them out of hand.

Funny thing is, I just heard a speech by a Rabbi who did exactly that. Religion doesn't get a free pass on criticism.

Too bad you know so much about the scientific method and so little on how to be a decent citizen. She has a right to speak, why not allow her to do so and maybe make arrangements to make a talk of your own refuting hers if you feel so strongly about it rather than disrupt her right to speak her piece?
 

Jeeebus

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I think your best option is to shut the fuck up and stop posting in this thread.
 

Dr. Zaus

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God: 1 athiests: 0

If only I could put this in my sig... but alas, it's much too long as-is.

She has a right to speak, why not allow her to do so and maybe make arrangements to make a talk of your own refuting hers if you feel so strongly about it rather than disrupt her right to speak her piece?
Some of that "free speech" is honest-to-God hate-speech against atheists and scientists. Not saying she doesn't have a right to speak it, but he also has an obligation to speak out against it.

For future trolling of Christians, ask:

What does 1st Corinthians chapter5 verses12 and 13 mean when it says "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside."

Does that mean your religious arguments against gay marge are actually anti-biblical?
 
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Aikouka

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Too bad you know so much about the scientific method and so little on how to be a decent citizen. She has a right to speak, why not allow her to do so and maybe make arrangements to make a talk of your own refuting hers if you feel so strongly about it rather than disrupt her right to speak her piece?

If she has a sort of question and answer session during the course of the seminar, and he asks something during that... how is he going outside the bounds of what's socially acceptable? Because he's asking a question meant to bring discourse? Because he went without caring about the actual topic and only meaning to bring shame upon someone who believes in a sham?

Maybe I get a different vision of what the intent is of this as I assume most people think of the OP as wanting to heckle the speaker. Although, that might make for an interesting YouTube video. :biggrin:
 

Linflas

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If only I could put this in my sig... but alas, it's much too long as-is.


Some of that "free speech" is honest-to-God hate-speech against atheists and scientists. Not saying she doesn't have a right to speak it, but he also has an obligation to speak out against it.

For future trolling of Christians, ask:

What does 1st Corinthians chapter5 verses12 and 13 mean when it says "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside."

Does that mean your religious arguments against gay marge are actually anti-biblical?

I wonder if you or anyone else actually looked up who this woman is? Turns out she is a Roman Catholic pro life activist, not a fundamentalist. So far I can find no hate speech from her regarding atheists or scientists nor do I see her taking any stated position on evolution but since she is a practicing Roman Catholic and the Catholic Church itself accepts the theory of evolution that does not surprise me.
 
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