Old AMD Thunderbird running hot

[Red Storm]

I just recently sold an old socket A Biostar MB along with an AMD Thunderbird CPU (1.4GHz) to someone off of eBay. They tell me that everything works perfect, but he says he's getting temps of around 65C. I never had temps that high, so I don't know what it is. Any ideas?

 

[Golgatha]

Reseat the CPU cooler 180°. I seem to remember it would go on backwards, but not quite make contact in the wrong orientation. Either that or he just didn't get the HSF seated properly.

 

[Red Storm]

Forgot to mention the HSF was already installed on the MB before I sold it. Could something have happened to its position during shipping (he says it arrived in perfect condition)?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

What is the temp in the room they have it in? Probably has poor air flow in the case too.

 

[aka1nas]

65C isn't absurdly hot for a thunderbird. Especially if the ambient temp is fairly hot.

 

[cubeless]

and absolutely the hsf could have moved and could have detached old tim between cpu and hsf...

 

[DrMrLordX]

My T-bird hit temps that high on a regular basis. It's not a big deal.

 

[PianoMan]

Concur - an old T-bird 1.4GHz I had ran hotter, as I remember than the Palomino 1800+ I had upgraded to, and that chip averaged 59deg C until I swapped the cooler out (the case was different too), dropping it down to 53.

As with the other remarks in this forum, have him tell you what case/cooling he's got, and the ambient he's in - and compare it to yours. If everything correlates, 65deg C. isn't too far out in left field.

PM

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Yeah, the Tcase is 90c iirc, and those in socket thermistors were notoriously inaccurate, so perhaps this one reads high instead of low to boot.

 

[orangat]

Originally posted by: Red Storm
Forgot to mention the HSF was already installed on the MB before I sold it. Could something have happened to its position during shipping (he says it arrived in perfect condition)?

??
You mean you didn't remove the cpu HS before shipping it? Not a smart thing if its a big and heavy. You'd be lucky if it just shifted.

 

[weeber]

I have my old 1.4 Tbird (also with a Biostar mb) still running my HTPC. It also routinely get's into the 60s and sometimes gets into the 70s. I have an old aluminum 60mm heatsink on it, but I have a fan adapter so that it runs an 80mm fan. This is an extremely hot running chip, and in the summer time it gets up there in temperature.

 

[Screwballl]

I had a Tbird 1.4/266 on a A7M266 board and it stayed at 65ºC idle and close to 75ºC under load during the summer. I swapped out a XP1800+ in that board with same hsf and the temps stay around 65º under load now. System is still running though, Folding@Home 100% cpu usage

 

[PianoMan]

Originally posted by: orangat

Originally posted by: Red Storm
Forgot to mention the HSF was already installed on the MB before I sold it. Could something have happened to its position during shipping (he says it arrived in perfect condition)?

??
You mean you didn't remove the cpu HS before shipping it? Not a smart thing if its a big and heavy. You'd be lucky if it just shifted.

You know what, I just remembered about that - those old XP HSF's didn't have the black square guide bracket along the base - shifting is definitely a possibility.

If he's still concerned w/temps, he can always reseat it after redoing the TIM?

PM

 

[Red Storm]

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I didn't realize that Thunderbirds ran that hot, so I assumed something was wrong. He added a case fan (had none before) and it really helped with temps, so he's happy now. Thanks again!

 

[aka1nas]

they were the first on-die L2 cache chips from AMD and were on a .18 micron process. The higher-end models run VERY hot.

 

[Spikesoldier]

normal operating temp for a 1.4ghz tbird

 

[Comdrpopnfresh]

probably shipped it with the hsf on- bad idea.... i've read thats what gets most people. Chaces are the thermal pad got jostled and devoped an air bublbe, or got dislodged..... esp if it was the stock one....

 

[Comdrpopnfresh]

my 750mhz tbird I just figure dotu after like 10 years could be overclcoked on the cheap board we have it on. went from 750 to 1020mhz.... Ocassional blue screens-but we use it to check mail and the web- its faster for what it does, and the stability is only an issue if left on- which we don't do- runs at 45*C

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Comdrpopnfresh
probably shipped it with the hsf on- bad idea.... i've read thats what gets most people. Chaces are the thermal pad got jostled and devoped an air bublbe, or got dislodged..... esp if it was the stock one....

Read the thread silly it was just bad airflow in the case that was making it so toasty.

I used to have a 1.4 in a K7S5A@1.54 Alpha 6035 with delta blacklabel. never got over low 50's, but F'in loud.

 

[cubeless]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER


I used to have a 1.4 in a K7S5A@1.54 Alpha 6035 with delta blacklabel. never got over low 50's, but F'in loud.

ahhh... the memories...