old N-router and unifi ap

Maximus96

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I have an old Belkin N router with DD-WRT. I'm planning to turn off the wireless radio on the thing and install a couple of unifi ap for my wifi because I want the Zero-Handoff feature. I'm wondering if I should upgrade the router too. Its a few years old with 64MB ram and 8mb flash memory i think. What benefits will the new AC routers like the nighthawk or AC66U or 68U with much more memory bring? I don't plan to use AC even though 3 of my devices can because I want seamless roaming.

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Fardringle

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If you are going to turn off the wireless on the main router, then it doesn't matter if it is AC or not since you won't be using it.
 

Maximus96

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If you are going to turn off the wireless on the main router, then it doesn't matter if it is AC or not since you won't be using it.

right, but does the extra memory of the new AC routers bring any significant improvements?

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JackMDS

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It depends on what your Network is compromised of and how it is used.




 

Maximus96

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10 security ip cams wired using MOCA extenders and 10/100 switches (all VGA resolution running 24/7), 4 desktops (3 of which running 24/7), 2 smart phones and 5 tablets (2 of which turned on and running as monitors for the cameras for about 12 hours a day. These pull down about 2MB/sec each when running)...and i'm looking to add 3 Unifi AP to the mix
 

azazel1024

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In general seamless routing is kind of overrated. I enjoy pretty danged seamless routing at home with my 3 different access points with clients handling switch over and its seamless on all my devices with no issues with sticky clients. That's with 6 different hardware setups and 4 different operating systems going on between them. Streaming, page loads, downloads, video chat, etc all fine.

Frankly if you plan to run a wireless router with the radios turned off, I'd just look at a plain wired router. Some of the nicer ones aren't all that expensive (same price range as a new AC router) and they typically have a lot more options for you in regards to fire wall rules, routing performance, etc. At least if you are talking the price range of an AC router ($100-150). Possibly better VPN performance too.

From what it sounds like you are running, most of that stuff is not being routed (unless it is going over the WAN) and at most its doing some minor DHCP work for you. So...probably nothing. If you are streaming a lot of that stuff through the router to the internet a lot of the time, then yes, a newer/better router would likely be of great benefit, especially as it would likely have better QoS management than an older router would.
 

Maximus96

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will a new router with more memory increase throughput? 95% of stream is with XBMC streaming movies from the unraid server. Random youtube videos for the other 5%. We don't do voip, netflix, or any of the other stuff. I'm just more concerned with throughput to all the different devices. I'm not sure if I'm overloading the belkin with ddwrt

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JackMDS

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Roaming is basically None existing with End-users Wireless hardware.

Depending on how flexible is your location.

I would get the Asus use its Wireless and might be that it will need one less AP.

If your Internet connection is above 15MB/sec., more memory and speed of the Routing aspects might provide better Traffic for over the Internet work.



 

azazel1024

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Roaming is basically None existing with End-users Wireless hardware.

Depending on how flexible is your location.

I would get the Asus use its Wireless and might be that it will need one less AP.

If your Internet connection is above 15MB/sec., more memory and speed of the Routing aspects might provide better Traffic for over the Internet work.




It is dependent upon the clients to roam and in my experience with a rather large number of clients, works well. Especially with things like streaming.

Laptop, a couple of different tablets and several different phones and all roam well between all 3 of my access points. They are running Windows 7/8/8.1, iOS 5/6/7 and Android 4.1/.2/.3 (currently or at different times) and all work well. When roaming breaks down is when you use different SSIDs (even if the device has the password for each one) or different SSIDs for different frequency bands. Then clients get sticky and/or refuse to switch sometimes unless the AP they are connected to completely cuts out/signal goes to almost nothing.

As I mentioned, I see zero problems with anything I've tried. Well, a lie, the brief bit of VOIP testing I did there is sometimes a noticable maybe second drop out of audio when a client roams to a new AP. Often times unnoticable.

I've noticed nothing with video chat (skype/facetime). Streaming, no interuption. Web page loads, nothing noticable. Texting over wifi, nothing noticable. File transfers, occasionally there'll be a brief pause as it switchs...a second or two.

So, it is not as seamless as access point/controller initiated client hand overs are...but it is pretty danged good.
 

Maximus96

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It is dependent upon the clients to roam and in my experience with a rather large number of clients, works well. Especially with things like streaming.

Laptop, a couple of different tablets and several different phones and all roam well between all 3 of my access points. They are running Windows 7/8/8.1, iOS 5/6/7 and Android 4.1/.2/.3 (currently or at different times) and all work well. When roaming breaks down is when you use different SSIDs (even if the device has the password for each one) or different SSIDs for different frequency bands. Then clients get sticky and/or refuse to switch sometimes unless the AP they are connected to completely cuts out/signal goes to almost nothing.

As I mentioned, I see zero problems with anything I've tried. Well, a lie, the brief bit of VOIP testing I did there is sometimes a noticable maybe second drop out of audio when a client roams to a new AP. Often times unnoticable.

I've noticed nothing with video chat (skype/facetime). Streaming, no interuption. Web page loads, nothing noticable. Texting over wifi, nothing noticable. File transfers, occasionally there'll be a brief pause as it switchs...a second or two.

So, it is not as seamless as access point/controller initiated client hand overs are...but it is pretty danged good.

Are you using same or different channel for your 3 APs?
 
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