old people in the office

[sze5003]

OP, it's clear you will never be cut out for management nor ever be a team player.

Your recommendation of / wrists is probably the way to go.

He would be fine for management. At many corporations many managers have no clue what workers are doing and most have a fake niceness atitude towards everyone. Always smiling and acting like everything is great when you know they couldn't give two shits.

 

[SlickSnake]

Eat lots of beans and fart in your cubicle/office and in the meeting and break rooms. Excessively fart to the point there is a humid haze that hangs around you where ever you go. Offer coworkers your homemade bean burritos and bean soups from a thermous on a daily basis, so there can be no doubt where the delicious bean farts are coming from.

 

[MrDudeMan]

OP, it's clear you will never be cut out for management nor ever be a team player.

Your recommendation of / wrists is probably the way to go.

i've said multiple times in this thread that i own a business. it's successful and i get along well with my employees. my biggest flaw at work is not taking a step back sometimes to better prioritize my time. i have no trouble relating to and managing people, which is why i'm in a technical management position at this company. sorry, but you've drawn an erroneous conclusion about my ability to handle people based on a rant specifically designed to be sarcastic instead of what you've apparently mistaken to be a cover letter.

 

[NetWareHead]

Eat lots of beans and fart in your cubicle/office and in the meeting and break rooms. Excessively fart to the point there is a humid haze that hangs around you where ever you go. Offer coworkers your homemade bean burritos and bean soups from a thermous on a daily basis, so there can be no doubt where the delicious bean farts are coming from.

The same thing happened in our office when one day Chipotle catered lunch was served. The consequences of an entire office eating bean burritos was something management truly failed to consider until it was too late. D:

 

[MrDudeMan]

OP, it's clear you will never be cut out for management nor ever be a team player.

Your recommendation of / wrists is probably the way to go.

i've said multiple times in this thread that i own a business. it's successful and i get along well with my employees. my biggest flaw at work is not taking a step back sometimes to better prioritize my time. i have no trouble relating to and managing people, which is why i'm in a technical management position at this company. sorry, but you've drawn an erroneous conclusion about my ability to handle people based on a rant specifically designed to be sarcastic instead of what you've apparently mistaken to be a cover letter.

Doesn't sound much much like a professional environment. What are their roles? If they don't do anything I don't understand why the boss does not see this or does that guy never leave his office?

I used to work with a bunch of school teachers. Being a developer I took care of their website and handled any tech issues. They were very gossip like but the boss was a serious woman and she made the environment workable. There were plenty of old people but they didn't just walk around like it's an old age home.

several of them do nothing. a few are volunteers and a few actually produce output. the ones who actually produce output report to the president, but i'm the technical lead so they interact with me frequently. when it's work related, i have no issues at all. what i don't want to do is sit around and chit chat when there are things to be done, but i have no power to stop it other than asking politely.

at my own company, i made it clear up front what the expectations were and i've never had a single issue. people are free to talk amongst themselves as long as they remain productive, which no one abuses. i meet with everyone once a week as a group to discuss priorities and objectives, which i carefully plan every weekend in an effort to find the balance between too much and too little work to do. they give me feedback when i fail to find the balance and i correct it as best i can. if this makes me a horrible manager, then so be it, but my employees are doing a damn good job of pretending to be satisfied with their jobs if they actually hate me.

He would be fine for management. At many corporations many managers have no clue what workers are doing and most have a fake niceness atitude towards everyone. Always smiling and acting like everything is great when you know they couldn't give two shits.

i'm not sure if this was supposed to describe me, but it doesn't. i don't micromanage anyone, but i expect plans to be made with realistic timelines and i follow up once or twice per week to make sure things are progressing. i know what everyone is doing and what problems they're facing.

 

[sze5003]

i've said multiple times in this thread that i own a business. it's successful and i get along well with my employees. my biggest flaw at work is not taking a step back sometimes to better prioritize my time. i have no trouble relating to and managing people, which is why i'm in a technical management position at this company. sorry, but you've drawn an erroneous conclusion about my ability to handle people based on a rant specifically designed to be sarcastic instead of what you've apparently mistaken to be a cover letter.



several of them do nothing. a few are volunteers and a few actually produce output. the ones who actually produce output report to the president, but i'm the technical lead so they interact with me frequently. when it's work related, i have no issues at all. what i don't want to do is sit around and chit chat when there are things to be done, but i have no power to stop it other than asking politely.

at my own company, i made it clear up front what the expectations were and i've never had a single issue. people are free to talk amongst themselves as long as they remain productive, which no one abuses. i meet with everyone once a week as a group to discuss priorities and objectives, which i carefully plan every weekend in an effort to find the balance between too much and too little work to do. they give me feedback when i fail to find the balance and i correct it as best i can. if this makes me a horrible manager, then so be it, but my employees are doing a damn good job of pretending to be satisfied with their jobs if they actually hate me.



i'm not sure if this was supposed to describe me, but it doesn't. i don't micromanage anyone, but i expect plans to be made with realistic timelines and i follow up once or twice per week to make sure things are progressing. i know what everyone is doing and what problems they're facing.

No not you just managers I've observed at my company and other places I worked at.

 

[MrDudeMan]

No not you just managers I've observed at my company and other places I worked at.

when i worked at a big company, some managers were exactly as you described and some were exactly opposite. neither extreme is good, really.

 

[chimaxi83]

It's completely understandable to want to be left the F alone at work. It's WORK, after all. If I'm in the middle of something, I won't directly tell someone to fuck off, but I'll give really short responses and/or get up and leave as if I have to go work on something else. The hints usually work.

That being said, I work in people's houses a lot. A lot of my customers are old people, usually pretty well off. My universal experience with them is that they just LOVE to talk. A lot of times, they come off as just lonely and enjoying the company while it's around. I have plenty of down time so I'll normally talk to them, especially if they have cool war, car, gun, or old toy related shit in their house. I've had some great conversations. Only thing I find annoying is when they talk politics. Meh.

Maybe all your old people are just boring bingo players

 

[Skel]

It really sounds like you have control issues more than just issues with people talking. You've said before you are OK with people talking but only if they are doing it when and how you want them to. It's a good thing you have your own company, (and you should very rightly be as proud of that as you are, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Keep mentioning it as a reason why you're not such a bad guy) there everyone can be happy because YOU control how it all goes. In the company you don't own, when you're the only one complaining about them, maybe you're the issue.

 

[Miramonti]

I've come to believe that when I hear people say, "I'm not here to make friends", their personalities and attitudes are such that they couldn't if they tried. So they don't try and just maintain their cr@ppy attitude towards people instead.

 

[MrDudeMan]

It really sounds like you have control issues more than just issues with people talking. You've said before you are OK with people talking but only if they are doing it when and how you want them to. It's a good thing you have your own company, (and you should very rightly be as proud of that as you are, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Keep mentioning it as a reason why you're not such a bad guy) there everyone can be happy because YOU control how it all goes. In the company you don't own, when you're the only one complaining about them, maybe you're the issue.

lol, sometimes the responses are so ridiculous. i'm definitely proud of my business, but that's not why i keep mentioning it. see alky's post for reference. also, owning a business doesn't prevent a person from being an asshole and i've never once associated those two things. you're just making stuff up to try to prove your assertion that i'm a controlling person, which is not true. i don't think i'm an asshole, but i'm also not impervious to annoyance. unless you're the thought police, i'm pretty sure i'm allowed to be irritated at something without instantly becoming the world's worst person.

being controlling isn't one of my personality flaws. the flaws i actually have: i'm too sarcastic and i don't always think before i open my mouth.

to address your other point, i'm not even close to the only one complaining about them. actually, i'm sure i said the opposite at least once.

I've come to believe that when I hear people say, "I'm not here to make friends", their personalities and attitudes are such that they couldn't if they tried. So they don't try and just maintain their cr@ppy attitude towards people instead.

you probably just have poor work ethic. see, i can make assumptions, too.

i used to make friends with people at work, but now that takes away from time with my kids and wife. i come to work to focus and get a job done, not socialize. of course, you can't get away from it completely, but i want to minimize that time so i can leave earlier.

my kids go to bed at 830 every night and i sometimes don't get home until 6. that leaves 2.5 hours to see them, which isn't much. i could spend an extra 20 or 30 minutes chatting at work and i'm perfectly capable of doing that, but why would i trade that for time with my kids? it has nothing to do with having a supposedly crappy attitude and everything to do with having a family. i want to have a career and raise my kids. i also like hanging out with friends, but i don't have time for all 3, so i pick the two most important areas to spend my time. i still have friends, but we're all busy so we hang out less often than we used to during the week. this is pretty normal stuff...

 

[gotsmack]

Try using a kitchen timer with a big display, set it for 5 minutes and place it on your desk in such a way that it is facing them. Tell them that they have your FULL attention for 5 minutes and that when the time is over they have to leave so you can get back to work.

 

[JechtShot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3KUEkxkbKc

 

[alkemyst]

He would be fine for management. At many corporations many managers have no clue what workers are doing and most have a fake niceness atitude towards everyone. Always smiling and acting like everything is great when you know they couldn't give two shits.

Except the OP seems to be losing his mind over this.

 

[alkemyst]

i've said multiple times in this thread that i own a business. it's successful and i get along well with my employees. my biggest flaw at work is not taking a step back sometimes to better prioritize my time. i have no trouble relating to and managing people, which is why i'm in a technical management position at this company. sorry, but you've drawn an erroneous conclusion about my ability to handle people based on a rant specifically designed to be sarcastic instead of what you've apparently mistaken to be a cover letter.

Oh my bad, troll on.

 

[drquest]

To the guy that sits in your office, you can do what I do. I have two chairs in my office besides the one behind my desk and people would regularly come in, sit down and take a load off... I started leaving stuff in my chairs all the time, heavy pointy items that they wouldn't want to move. I found most people that like to sit in chairs for extended amounts of time also don't seem to want to move heavy things to sit down and they still come in to talk, but it's much shorter because there's plenty of other chairs they can sit in elsewhere.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Oh my bad, troll on.

>enter thread to tell the op to kill himself
>call op the troll

 

[BUTCH1]

Old people in the workforce - God bless them.

I had to teach someone what favorites are. So, all these years, this person went back to e-mails, to get URLs for the various intranet sites he needed to go to.

LOL, I had to teach my former supervisor how to cut and paste, he was amazed and thought I was a "computer wiz", I didn't have the heart to tell him that cut and paste is in computer terms as complicated as "shift into drive" in automotive world..

 

[alkemyst]

>enter thread to tell the op to kill himself
>call op the troll

Ummm no he already suggested in the OP that's what he wanted to do.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Ummm no he already suggested in the OP that's what he wanted to do.

Oops, lol, fair enough. :wub: