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Vic

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I don't know why Portland walmart closings are in my youtube feed.. I don't live in Portland, have never really searched Portland.
Propaganda. They closed because Walmarts are filthy messes and people inside the city won't shop there, but conservative powers-that-be want to keep pushing the Portland is burning narrative.
They pushed similar BS about some BK closings, completely ignoring the fact the local burger chains like Super Deluxe have long lines all day everyday.
 
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Vic

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Speaking of, is an NYC bodega chopped cheese really worth the visit?
 

rommelrommel

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I’m not gonna go out of my way to feel bad for thieves, but in the scheme of things they are less morally culpable than most. This isn’t car falls on catalytic converter thief material.
 
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Vic

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I’m not gonna go out of my way to feel bad for thieves, but in the scheme of things they are less morally culpable than most. This isn’t car falls on catalytic converter thief material.
The moral cupability becomes even greyer when you consider that no one would ever steal a catalytic converter if there weren't someone looking to buy them.
 

MrSquished

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I'm more scared of GQP loyalists than anything in New York City. Far scarier and frightening than anything else.

New York City is lovely. Flawed of course in many ways, but fucking amazingly beautiful in the most unique ways.

Right wingers are fucking evil scary rotten things. Way worse than the worst of the city.
 

Moonbeam

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Thread took a decent turn after this was posted, but at the time, FOLKS, when MrSquished is the voice of calm, humane, centered reason, you know things have gone off the rails!
Karma IS a bitch. Here I am once again robbed of the praise for a sentiment due me by someone who chose to express it by posting where I chose to express it by avoiding doing so altogether.

When I first read this thread there was one reply and I started remembering some of my favorite imbecilic driving stunts as I somehow survived as teenager and young adult including an accident I drove by in Pescadero on Highway One where four teens my age had died. I remembered the feeling of contemplating to myself the nature of life that I was alive and their lives and ended and all they would miss out on that I might not. Those thoughts turned me away from this thread. How could somebody be happy at a young person's death. Now I have to apologize for that because I have never heard the expression that Cops and Karma avoid liberal cities. At least there was something more than rejoicing at dead people behind the thread.

Apologies also to MrSquished. My very first wonder was if he was the elderly driver who took those bastards out.......................................................intentionally.
 

FelixDeCat

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I remember

Karma IS a bitch. Here I am once again robbed of the praise for a sentiment due me by someone who chose to express it by posting where I chose to express it by avoiding doing so altogether.

When I first read this thread there was one reply and I started remembering some of my favorite imbecilic driving stunts as I somehow survived as teenager and young adult including an accident I drove by in Pescadero on Highway One where four teens my age had died. I remembered the feeling of contemplating to myself the nature of life that I was alive and their lives and ended and all they would miss out on that I might not. Those thoughts turned me away from this thread. How could somebody be happy at a young person's death. Now I have to apologize for that because I have never heard the expression that Cops and Karma avoid liberal cities. At least there was something more than rejoicing at dead people behind the thread.

Apologies also to MrSquished. My very first wonder was if he was the elderly driver who took those bastards out.......................................................intentionally.
63 is not elderly!
 
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Moonbeam

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I'm more scared of GQP loyalists than anything in New York City. Far scarier and frightening than anything else.

New York City is lovely. Flawed of course in many ways, but fucking amazingly beautiful in the most unique ways.

Right wingers are fucking evil scary rotten things. Way worse than the worst of the city.
I have no idea why it was that as soon as I closed this thread, this new post being the last thing I read I opened Startpage and typed this: Does NYC have the world's largest rats and found this:

 

MrSquished

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I have no idea why it was that as soon as I closed this thread, this new post being the last thing I read I opened Startpage and typed this: Does NYC have the world's largest rats and found this:


I'll take a thousand of the biggest New York City rats's as neighbors than a thousand Green Man's or 1,000 red squirrels or even a thousand moonbeams of idiocy and gun fetishism.
 

Moonbeam

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I'll take a thousand of the biggest New York City rats's as neighbors than a thousand Green Man's or 1,000 red squirrels or even a thousand moonbeams of idiocy and gun fetishism.
I think the guesstimated number was more like 2 million. But that was 2016 for the link I believe. I suppose it's safe to say the saying breed like rats would properly apply to nothing better than rats, so who knows today.

By the way. I am an ancient bigot against New Yorkers. I have known a number of them who came to California to ruin our laid back culture with their dismissive rudeness one of them even threatening my life with a fake blunderbuss. I also had the pleasure of visiting your city a long time ago and telling one of your fine policeman who stepped in front of me to stop me on the street go get the fuck our of my way. He seemed quite surprised to hear such words in plain clear unaccented silver-tongued Standard American English and turned bright red in the face with fear. He was one presumptive fucking Irish cops who had a lot to learn about we bleeding edge world culture exporting Califorians who drive up and down El Camino Royal.

But don't worry. I have gotten past Geographical self identification as a meaningful source of self aggrandizement because everywhere I go there I am. Every place is the heaven or hell depending on the shades I'm wearing that day.
 
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MrSquished

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I think the guesstimated number was more like 2 million. But that was 2016 for the link I believe. I suppose it's safe to say the saying breed like rats would properly apply to nothing better than rats, so who knows today.

By the way. I am an ancient bigot against New Yorkers. I have known a number of them who came to California to ruin our laid back culture with their dismissive rudeness one of them even threatening my life with a fake blunderbuss. I also had the pleasure of visiting your city a long time ago and telling one of your fine policeman who stepped in front of me to stop me on the street go get the fuck our of my way. He seemed quite surprised to hear such words in plain clear unaccented silver-tongued Standard American English and turned bright red in the face with fear. He was one presumptive fucking Irish cops who had a lot to learn about we bleeding edge world culture exporting Califorians who drive up and down El Camino Royal.

But don't worry. I have gotten past Geographical self identification as a meaningful source of self aggrandizement because everywhere I go there I am. Every place is the heaven or hell depending on the shades I'm wearing that day.
color me surprised, gun fetishist to big bad nyc hating fetishist.

what else do you fetishize about?
 

Jaskalas

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Well thank God some genius invented car insurance so none of that is a problem anymore..
Who the !@#$ is that going to help?

Let's assume a vehicle is stolen and not seen again.
They going to pay out as if it was totaled?

Trade in Value of $685.
That sure as hell isn't getting a functional replacement.
 

Jaskalas

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Propaganda. They closed because Walmarts are filthy messes and people inside the city won't shop there, but conservative powers-that-be want to keep pushing the Portland is burning narrative.
And what is wrong with the people where you live, that the Walmarts are trashed?
Saying they've been damaged fits into the narrative you are trying to dispel.
 

Pohemi

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And yet NY suburbs somehow managed to flip 4 solid blue seats to red.. and we now have a GOP congress.. and you still wonder why?

Those in power/ running for office need to start getting their heads out of their asses and see people can and will vote for a total fake sense of security if Dems keep telling them just accept criminals only getting a slap on the wrist.

People don't like police, and DA going soft on crime!

The whole teenage thing so lets take it easy on them is a insult to everyone who is not a criminal, who works hard and does the right thing.

Going easy on them just encourages more crime.

So it goes from wanting more than a slap on the wrist for (alleged) teenage car thieves, to wanting them put to death. That's a hell of a leap.

Is it all for the sake of wanting Dems to appear, "tough on crime" so GOP stops winning elections in NY? For your own subjective experiences/opinions? Some combo thereof? Did you have a vehicle stolen that heavily affected your daily life?

I'm just trying to understand where your feelings come from on this.

Well thank God some genius invented car insurance so none of that is a problem anymore..

Jaskalas beat me to the response...

Who the !@#$ is that going to help?

Let's assume a vehicle is stolen and not seen again.
They going to pay out as if it was totaled?

Trade in Value of $685.
That sure as hell isn't getting a functional replacement.

It will help those who can afford FULL coverage insurance that covers vehicle theft. Maybe. Depending on regulations in your state/city.

Poorer folks driving $1-5K cars obviously aren't going to have that, and will be SOL. They will be more desperate and affected than those who can afford to compensate for the loss.

Still not justification to wish death on the thief, IMO.
 

Vic

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And what is wrong with the people where you live, that the Walmarts are trashed?
Saying they've been damaged fits into the narrative you are trying to dispel.
The Walmarts in my area are dirty and poorly managed. The shelves are a mess, items are poorly stocked, customer service is non-extistent, etc. They're like how Kmarts were before they all closed.
And none of the other big box stores in my area are like this so the problem lies squarely on Walmart, not the people here.
 

Vic

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Who the !@#$ is that going to help?

Let's assume a vehicle is stolen and not seen again.
They going to pay out as if it was totaled?

Trade in Value of $685.
That sure as hell isn't getting a functional replacement.
We still shouldn't inflict lynch mobs and extrajudicial executions for property crimes. That's not justice.
 

Indus

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Thread took a decent turn after this was posted, but at the time, FOLKS, when MrSquished is the voice of calm, humane, centered reason, you know things have gone off the rails!

This thread is an all time epic showing how tolerant we are of each other on the left despite what the maga right claim.

The MAGA right are so insane in wanting to take away our right to exist, that we all co-exist under the same tent.

I just don't think that criminals (Trump, Trump's helpers, thugs, murderers and even carjacking teenagers) should be allowed in that tent.

We don't think all alike so I'm not surprised that we won't be agreeing on what Pizza toppings we like, but we shouldn't call each other crazy just because I like Italian Sausage and Pineapple on mine!
 

Indus

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I'll take a thousand of the biggest New York City rats's as neighbors than a thousand Green Man's or 1,000 red squirrels or even a thousand moonbeams of idiocy and gun fetishism.

Just keep that mars atmosphere of Air Quality Index 484 away FFS!
 
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