(Old Thread) RANT: What idiot designed the USB standard?

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MtnMan

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That's why the put the little USB symbol on the top of the connector end on the cable.
 

davmat787

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It may have been mentioned, but a ton of companies were behind the development of the USB spec. Collectively they are/were known as the USBSIG, or USB Special Interest Group. Specs, features, bugs, etc all had to be ratified among members.

http://www.usb.org/home

When bitching about USB, please remember what it was like back in the day prior to USB when mice were serial or PS/2, and you could fry your PS/2 port by hot plugging a PS/2 keyboard. USB is a big improvement.
 

HeXen

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That's why the put the little USB symbol on the top of the connector end on the cable.

i got a Diesel USB stick that has no symbol at all on it right inf ront of me. but ya go to plug something in with a dimly lit room, still a pain especially if your leaning over your Desktop rig and feeling around in the back for a slot...cant tell ya how many times i felt the HDMI slot and tried to put the USB plug in it. lol

of course even right side up, you still gotta hit that straight angle just right, thats why soemtimes it takes 3 times
 

MotionMan

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That's why the put the little USB symbol on the top of the connector end on the cable.

Many of the hubs I have used have the plug "upside down". So not only do you have to find a visual cue from the device (which is not always there), you have to know/remember how the hub has the plug.

MotionMan
 

lxskllr

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Many of the hubs I have used have the plug "upside down". So not only do you have to find a visual cue from the device (which is not always there), you have to know/remember how the hub has the plug.

MotionMan

The front jacks in my case were put in upside down. I'll fix it next time I take the front off, but I'll probably continue to try putting the plug in backward for the next year :^S
 

RagingBITCH

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Am I missing something here? Firewire - if you are fumbling around with it in the dark - it still ONLY GOES ONE FUCKING WAY.
 

Rubycon

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Am I missing something here? Firewire - if you are fumbling around with it in the dark - it still ONLY GOES ONE FUCKING WAY.

It's a LOT easier to push it in the wrong way and then bad things happen to your gear.
 

xSauronx

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Wow, I actually agree with the OP 100%.

God trying to plug in your damn usb mouse and keyboards (and other USB devices) behind a computer without pulling the whole tower forward is an exercise in frustration.

add that in to using old dell optiplexes, like the 270/280 models that had a cover plate on a hinge over the usb port, so you couldnt see the fucking thing, then had the ports at a 45 degree angle, so you couldnt fuck fit anything into them. see point #8 below

we still have some of these at work, and ive just plain pulled the cover off several of them so i could get to the usb port

 

secretanchitman

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Fuck. I need a link to the conan o'brian interview. I want to watch it!

oddly enough, i went to the last page in this thread, and then back to the first and saw that i actually was the one to post the link to the video out of all people!

but yes...i want to watch that video dammit! both engadget and vimeo removed their links - time to go on an internet hunt for it.
 

Colt45

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Ahhh I don't know, blind-mating D-sub connectors is just as much of a pain in the ass, and they are keyed. PS2 is even worse.

You'd think 1/2 tries with USB would work, but I swear I have to flip it twice sometimes. :awe:
 

MotionMan

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LifeHacker Fail.

It may work for laptops, but not all USB ports on other devices are quite as standardize as they make it seem.

Also, he never noticed the USB logo on his cables before?!? Really?

MotionMan
 

jhansman

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we still have some of these at work, and ive just plain pulled the cover off several of them so i could get to the usb port

Ha ha! I used to teach in a class that had a bunch of these Dells sitting (wait for it.....) on the FLOOR! You literally had to get down on your hands and knees to insert a USB device. Many of the students were middle-aged, and making such move was out of the question. When I protested to the dean, she just shrugged...
 

MotionMan

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Ha ha! I used to teach in a class that had a bunch of these Dells sitting (wait for it.....) on the FLOOR! You literally had to get down on your hands and knees to insert a USB device. Many of the students were middle-aged, and making such move was out of the question. When I protested to the dean, she just shrugged...

Why would the be on the floor? They are DESKTOP computers!

(I wish I have not actually heard this IRL.)

MotionMan
 

OrangeShoes

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I'm plagiarizing another post from another forum, but I just can't say it better:

"If you have a USB 3.0 header on your motherboard it's worth your while to take a long, hard look at how much thinner the pins are than on USB 2.0 headers before you try and use the cabling currently available for hooking these headers up to the front panel, which are far more stiff and heavy than USB 2.0 connectors.

There are several pitfalls involved which transform this from the easy process that USB 2.0 connection has always been into a permanent hazard inside your desktop case.

For a start plugging a USB 3.0 cable into the header becomes a precision task because if you try jiggling the plug around until it fits you'll start bending pins and even if you're trying to be careful that stiff, heavy cable is more than capable of forcing you to go into the header at an angle at the last moment."

Amen! I thought I was careful enough, but I'm far from alone in having all too easily (in my case, twice!) bent one of the exceedingly fragile pins in a USB 3.0 header. It'd work a lot better to just go with plugs like are used for the ports, rather than these flimsy-pinned headers. Or come up with a sturdier receptacle that stands up to the force of those rather heavy-duty cables that are always used to connect to them.

At least USB 2.0 headers had reasonably sturdy pins to work with. Countless set-ups with those, and not once did I bend/break a pin!

Please check thread dates before posting. This thread has not been responded to in more than 3 1/2 years. I doubt that the participants still have interest in information that isn't even your own experience.
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Bob the Coder

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Sorry but my original rant is still viable and worth bumping as much today as 5 years ago

I found it interesting. Good read. If people don't find it interesting, the thread will fall back into the shadows. I don't need help turning the channel when I'm bored, and I certainly don't need a warning that a thread is old
 

OutHouse

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add that in to using old dell optiplexes, like the 270/280 models that had a cover plate on a hinge over the usb port, so you couldnt see the fucking thing, then had the ports at a 45 degree angle, so you couldnt fuck fit anything into them. see point #8 below

we still have some of these at work, and ive just plain pulled the cover off several of them so i could get to the usb port


yes those designs were fucking retarded. i also ripped off that stupid cover to get to the USB.
 
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