Olivia Sprauer, Former Teacher, Forced To Resign After Bikini Modeling Photo Surfaces

[jaedaliu]

Why? The pay is based on supply and demand, and accounts for the additional time off (fewer hours worked) and generous benefits. Why should there be some arbitrary rate set for one group of workers versus another?

That's an excellent question. Why do the states provide so little funding for teachers? Why is the demand for good teachers so low? I would be willing to take a 25% pay cut (to account for the 3 months off) to teach high school math or science, but it would be more of a 60% pay cut to do it. And I would like to make more money than that.

But this is mostly off topic. It's too bad that she couldn't wait until the summer to get the extra spending cash.

 

[Vdubchaos]

My wife is in her 6th year of teaching and only makes $36k/year.

I made 35k a year my first job out of "technical" school for drafting (1 year course).

This is a BIG problem.

I'm actually shocked we don't have a shortage of teachers/police and fireman.

OR perhaps, people are lot more desperate than we are lead to believe.

 

[wirednuts]

I'm gonna need more material from her.

um.. watch the video. makeup is her best friend, along with sucking in her stomach and only posing in stretched out poses.

shes barely a 5/10 in real life. takes some nice pictures, but shes boarderline a dog.

i really dont think this is even her in the op link- http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1123118/thumbs/o-OLIVIA-SPRAUER-TEACHER-570.jpg?6

maybe it is, but that is some MAJOR artistry to pull that off.

 

[dabuddha]

um.. watch the video. makeup is her best friend, along with sucking in her stomach and only posing in stretched out poses.

shes barely a 5/10 in real life. takes some nice pictures, but shes boarderline a dog.

i really dont think this is even her in the op link- http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1123118/thumbs/o-OLIVIA-SPRAUER-TEACHER-570.jpg?6

maybe it is, but that is some MAJOR artistry to pull that off.

Don't forget the pointy elbows.

 

[PokerGuy]

That's an excellent question. Why do the states provide so little funding for teachers? Why is the demand for good teachers so low? I would be willing to take a 25% pay cut (to account for the 3 months off) to teach high school math or science, but it would be more of a 60% pay cut to do it. And I would like to make more money than that.

I understand what you're saying, and it makes complete sense that you are not willing to take that big of a cut.... but as long as they have enough qualified candidates to fill the positions, why should they start paying more? If they can't find qualified candidates, then they have to raise the pay to attract more. Otherwise, there's no reason to do so.

Also, you can't ignore the reduced amount of work per year and the benefits (health care etc) that are generally very nice.

 

[jaedaliu]

I made 35k a year my first job out of "technical" school for drafting (1 year course).

This is a BIG problem.

I'm actually shocked we don't have a shortage of teachers/police and fireman.

OR perhaps, people are lot more desperate than we are lead to believe.

well, policemen and firemen make quite a lot of money.

They also get to wear a uniform, which aparently helps a lot with the ladies.

 

[PokerGuy]

but shes boarderline a dog.

I was waiting for this kind of post. AT

 

[Zargon]

My wife is in her 6th year of teaching and only makes $36k/year.

FWIW that 50K/year if she worked a standard work year.

I know because until a few years ago my wife made more per hour than I did(shes a Special Ed Teacher)

 

[wirednuts]

I was waiting for this kind of post. AT

i thought she was smokin hot when i clicked the first link... then i watched the video and changed my mind. look at that bikini shot in high heels posted earlier too- shes doing everything she can to hide her chunks.

 

[Zargon]

um.. watch the video. makeup is her best friend, along with sucking in her stomach and only posing in stretched out poses.

shes barely a 5/10 in real life. takes some nice pictures, but shes boarderline a dog.

i really dont think this is even her in the op link- http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1123118/thumbs/o-OLIVIA-SPRAUER-TEACHER-570.jpg?6

maybe it is, but that is some MAJOR artistry to pull that off.

its in her porfolio on the model site.

well, policemen and firemen make quite a lot of money.

They also get to wear a uniform, which aparently helps a lot with the ladies.

and they have a much greater risk of injury/death

 

[wirednuts]

its in her porfolio on the model site.

damn good makeup then! and likely airbrushing too.

not that any of it matters. its not like shes seeking attention. shes a book worm, and wants to be a professor. ahem.





BWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA! LOL

 

[PokerGuy]

i thought she was smokin hot when i clicked the first link... then i watched the video and changed my mind. look at that bikini shot in high heels posted earlier too- shes doing everything she can to hide her chunks.

That's all fine and dandy, but if you think she's a "borderline dog" or a 5/10, you're smoking something, or you're some superstar athlete who has models throwing themselves at him (in which case, can I humbly ask to join your posse?

 

[Kreon]

Unless someone's going to establish an arbitrary salary level, compensation is going to be determined by supply and demand. Also, lets not forget to include the much lower number of weeks worked per year in the equation,

Once you factor in the before and after year professional development, it works out to working about 10 months a year (last week of August to last week of June, usually). So ~83% of the time that I work. Yet significantly less.

I should also note that for the majority of teachers, their workday /= the school day. Many schools require teachers to stay later, and most do a lot of the other work at home. My parents each spend about 2 hours correcting papers and tests each night. Which equates to 9-10 hours days.

and lets also not forget the very generous benefits (health care, pensions etc) in the process.

I would not call their benefits "very generous". Definately not anymore. They health plan they have through the school is about on par with the one I have at my company. The only significant difference is it has dental and I do not.
Pension is decent. NH used to have a nasty habit of "borrowing" money from the public workers pension fund, which never got paid back. The only reason there was an uproar about it was because it affected the firemen and police officers too. VT (where my mom teaches) has basically torpedoed their pension plan, which is why my mom is retiring (so she isn't covered under the new plan). Anybody retiring after this year will see their pension cut by 1/3.

Not that I have a problem with teachers getting well paid, but lets not go overboard with the "it's so awful, they hardly get paid anything!" stuff.

Are they completely destitute? No, especially with my dad in the Coast Guard reserves (long since retired). They were able to give me a good childhood, and even give me help with college. But are they poorly paid for their qualifications? Yes. When my dad was laid off in the 90s, he looked at non-teaching jobs. He was offered a position as an electrical engineer making 6 figures. I won't say his actual salary without his permission, but its safe to say its significantly less than that. He teaches because he loves it.

The reason we should pay teachers more, is to encourage more people to teach, thus raising (hopefully) the quality of teachers. Getting high quality teachers is much more complicated than that, but it's a piece in the puzzle.

You don't go into teaching for the money. You go in to shape young minds.

This too. Money helps though.

I'm actually shocked we don't have a shortage of teachers/police and fireman.

There is about to be a shortage of teachers (at least in NH and VT). ~2/3 of the teachers in my mom's school will be retiring in the next 5 years. Within the past 2 years and the next 3 years at my dad's high school, ~1/2 of the teachers will be retiring.

 

[wirednuts]

That's all fine and dandy, but if you think she's a "borderline dog" or a 5/10, you're smoking something, or you're some superstar athlete who has models throwing themselves at him (in which case, can I humbly ask to join your posse?

hey man, if i was you would be invited!

i know i had the necessary "ATOT emphasis" on it, but seriously, those photoshoots are professional. she is not nearly as hot as she looks in her pics.

 

[DougK62]

Let's not forget that teacher pay is very regional. Some areas pay their teachers extremely well.

 

[wirednuts]

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you dont need to defend your wife or teachers in general. people never used to say teachers made a lot of money- it was always the opposite of that actually. the difference now is everyone else is making WAY less then they used to, and its making teachers seem overpaid. Truth is, almost all of us are severely underpaid in most any profession.

 

[sunzt]

Let's not forget that teacher pay is very regional. Some areas pay their teachers extremely well.

Southern Maryland....

 

[Kreon]

you dont need to defend your wife or teachers in general. people never used to say teachers made a lot of money- it was always the opposite of that actually. the difference now is everyone else is making WAY less then they used to, and its making teachers seem overpaid. Truth is, almost all of us are severely underpaid in most any profession.

True. Sometimes I get a little overzealous when people think teachers have it wicked easy because I see all of the blood, sweat and tears that goes into it that few people note. We all have our buttons that get pressed. This happens to be mine.

Also, as noted above, it does vary A LOT on location. NH and VT do not treat their teachers nearly as well as other areas of the US.

 

[wirednuts]

True. Sometimes I get a little overzealous when people think teachers have it wicked easy because I see all of the blood, sweat and tears that goes into it that few people note.

Also, as noted above, it does vary A LOT on location. NH and VT do not treat their teachers nearly as well as other areas of the US.

teaching can be one of the toughest jobs there is. at least, when you care about what youre doing its really tough. if you dont really give a shit and have no conscience, then its pretty easy (sit down and shut up!)

 

[DrPizza]

Why? The pay is based on supply and demand, and accounts for the additional time off (fewer hours worked) and generous benefits. Why should there be some arbitrary rate set for one group of workers versus another?

If teachers' pay is based on supply and demand, then why are elementary teachers (high supply, compared to demand; a position often gets 100+ applicants) paid the same amount as math teachers and science teachers (high demand, low supply)?

 

[Wyndru]

Teacher's have "moral contracts". They aren't supposed to publicly display their personal preferences in politics, religions, and certain beliefs. They also have to maintain a neutral status in their personal sphere so that it does not intervene or influence day to day teaching.

If personal issues become a distraction in the classroom, or school as a whole, and detract from the teacher or schools ability to conduct regular education, a teacher can be fired.

Example: I post pictures of myself online, not of my penis, but of a big throbbing erection in tight underwear with the thumbs up sign. I call it art and it is appreciated in my circle of friends. It's a free country, I can do whatever the fuck I want to. It's not porn. Cocks.

Result: I and other teachers can't go a day without cock teacher becoming a hot topic. It's in the lunch room, homeroom, people are drawing cocks in shop, it's everywhere. The school then fires me trying to get rid of the "distraction".

Several months later, people forget about Cock Art.


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It's really vague in the contract language, but it's there in some form. Alot of teacher unions will sue though, but the school may still fire someone even if it's not justifiable, just to get rid of them. They will calculate the legal costs into the decision.

This X1000. People always forget how schools work and what is expected in a teacher's contract. Don't like it? Don't become a teacher.

 

[DougK62]

If teachers' pay is based on supply and demand, then why are elementary teachers (high supply, compared to demand; a position often gets 100+ applicants) paid the same amount as math teachers and science teachers (high demand, low supply)?

Isn't it usually the unions that like to keep the pay uniform?

 

[Wyndru]

damn good makeup then! and likely airbrushing too.

Quite a difference there. Although I'm sure they used that top picture on purpose. It looks like she is the middle of speaking, everyone looks different when you freeze frame during a sentence.

 

[Golgatha]

Stupid principal.

 

[rh71]

you dont need to defend your wife or teachers in general. people never used to say teachers made a lot of money- it was always the opposite of that actually. the difference now is everyone else is making WAY less then they used to, and its making teachers seem overpaid. Truth is, almost all of us are severely underpaid in most any profession.

I don't know if this is true anywhere else but here on LI the teachers with tenure make near 6 figures. A friend @ 35yo for example is at 95k. Middle school teacher. 2 months off for summer. The requirement is a masters (not as hard as it sounds) and you're good. School superintendents make over $250k (and then there's this gem). On a LI board we bitch & moan about it ($9k/yr just in school taxes) but what can we do about these UNIONS??? Same goes for cops. Many over 6 figures. I'd like to know if this is true anywhere else. Meanwhile if we don't pass the school budget every year our kids get programs cut from them. Fuggin unions. How did we let it get so out of hand?

I should also mention there's a line out the door for the teaching jobs here. Yet the salaries remain high. People have had to change careers after realizing nothing's available.