Omfg. No Hybrid crossfire for XP users ?

[Dazed and Confused]

This is 100% gayness. AMD finally hits a good one and they go and screw it all up by alienating XP users. I just fn purchased my AM2 setup which was gonna revolve arround a Biostar TA780G and I was going to get a Hybrid crossfire setup going using the Sapphire 512mb GDDR3 HD3650 in Hybrid Crossfire and I'll be damned. No fn XP support for Hybrid Crossfire. AMD did a solid job fucking me on this one.

Question now boils down to :

Keep the AM2 Hybrid Crossfire setup in hopes AMD did not abandon XP users

or

Get rid of the TA780G and HD3650 and get a cheaper TF7050 with an 8600GTS ( which would have lost to the Hybrid setup in newer games )

Either way I'm soldily screwed out of instant satisfaction on this one -_- What do you guys think ?

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[solog]

I wouldn't wait for AMD to offer XP support for Hybrid CrossFireX. Their website says its for Vista

http://game.amd.com/us-en/crossfirex_hybrid.aspx

Nvidia's HybridPower is also Vista only. If you can return your motherboard that might be the way to go but if you have to sell it for a loss, might as well keep it.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Or plan C, use Vista.

 

[Sylvanas]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Or plan C, use Vista.

Indeed.

You should have read up before going with Hybrid Xfire, Nvidia requires Vista just the same. It's like Quad Xfire/SLI....that requires vista also, because of XP's limitation.

 

[FireTech]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Or plan C, use Vista.

Sounds like that's the best choice for this situation.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Except for the fact that I already paid $150 for my XP Home COA a few yrs back and I have no plans ATM to pay $150 now only to have to deal with Vista. I work at a local PC shop and while I have gotten familliar with Vista and it may have some nice features n such. I have no plans to use Vista untill MicroCock finds a way to reduce the memory/cpu consumption of that resource hog.

Did you know that we just built a Vista machine for the shop and as soon as Vista Ultimate was installed ( what a fn waste of $280 to start with ) and before we installed any programs at all. Vista was using over 900mb of ram all by its lonesome. Compare that to XP with SP2 @ arround 160mb and you tell me what the hell isnt wrong w that picture -_- Thats 5x the memory consumption . . WITHOUT RUNNING EXTRA PROGRAMS !!! Given I have 4x 1gb of ram and XP only sees 3gb so I'll have to assign 1gb to integrated video to maintain 3gb to the OS while keeping dual channel. And I know Vista will see all 4gb but will use 1gb of that leaving me with 3gb free ( before I install my anti-spyware and everything, by which time I'm down another 100 - 200mb ), not to mention I'd need to assign at least yet another 128mb to my integrated video to run Hybrid CrossFire. . . . . . K, so maybe in the end I'm down the exact same ammount of memory between the IGP and Vista's 900mb consumption as I would be assigning 1gb to the IGP in XP just to keep XP happy -_- I'd still have to plop down another $100 - $150 for vista when I still have my ( battered and bruised ) XP Home OEM COA.

I could go Dual boot but every time I switch to XP I have to go into my BIOS and slap 1gb on the IGP.

Oh, heres the tie breaker. Spend $100 - $150 on Vista to use Hybrid CrossFire or spend the same $100 - $150 on an HD3850 or 8800GS ? Not too much of a debate there as the bonus I'd get from Vista would be negated by the huge FPS increase I'd get from moving up to one of those faster video cards.

Bottom line :

I'm not fn spending $100 + on Vista just to run Hybrid CrossFire with a fn HD3650.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Or plan C, use Vista.

 

[Aluvus]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused

Did you know that we just built a Vista machine for the shop and as soon as Vista Ultimate was installed ( what a fn waste of $280 to start with ) and before we installed any programs at all. Vista was using over 900mb of ram all by its lonesome. Compare that to XP with SP2 @ arround 160mb and you tell me what the hell isnt wrong w that picture -_- Thats 5x the memory consumption . . WITHOUT RUNNING EXTRA PROGRAMS !!!

Would you prefer that it left your memory doing nothing at all and in effect being wasted?

If this was actually having some negative performance impact that you could detect, then that is a problem. Otherwise you are essentially complaining that Vista didn't waste your system resources.

 

[bryanW1995]

vista's waste of memory is very well-documented. I just got an inspiron 1521 with a T7250 and visto home premium. nice, right? except that it also used 900mb of ram with nothing running!!! I managed to delete all of the dell crap and get it down to about 600mb with no anti-virus or anything at all, but it's still a HUGE waste of ram imho. The one drawback to this machine? it only has 1gb of ram, so I will probably end up having to buy more ram just to use the stupid machine. I hate to agree with the op, but vista sucks.

@OP, sell the crap that you just bought and get a decent vid card.

 

[FireTech]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
Bottom line :

I'm not fn spending $100 + on Vista just to run Hybrid CrossFire with a fn HD3650.

OK, let us know what you finally decide then.

I'm sure you'll easily be able to sell the 780G & HD3650 through your shop and get another MB at cost so it's not such a big drama is it?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

My OP clearly states "Wait for AMD to release XP drivers for Hybrid Crossfire" OR " Sell Hybrid crossfire stuff and get a cheaper mobo and faster video card" .

I was never considering nor will I consider buying vista. Once again I plainly state what 2 options I'm willing to excersise and once again a perfectly started thread has gone to crap with people introducing another option that I have no interest in. Yet you people are hell bent to push your oppinnion even when its not wanted. Maybe you guys would like it if I wait for you to start a thread where u spend 2 hours clearly stating your guidlines and what your ONLY desired courses of action are then I'll randomly insert another option that you already stated you have no interest in. Then to put the icing on the cake I'll post the same suggestion like 50 times a day untill you give in. After all, thats the just of what you're all trying to do.

Seriously, whats so difficult about asking people to give me input on one of those 2 directions ? And yet some of you get totally disrespectful by beating a dead fn horse after I say I'm not willing to pursue a 3rd avenue even after I state that I'm not fn spending $100 - $150 more when I have an OS I'm happy with.

WTF ?!?!

Bryanw1995 is the only one that seems to know how to read then comprehend what he reads without adding in extra stuff then pushing it like a fn crack dealer trying to unload his shit before the cops roll by.

I was leaning towards this anyways as there is no telling how long it'll be ( if ever ) untill AMD release XP Hybrid Crossfire support. I'll prob just grab a TF7025 and an 8800GS then call it a day :-/

 

[rennya]

That's how Vista's SuperFetch works. Calling it a waste of RAM is misleading at best. Even if you can populate your motherboard with 4GB RAM or more, Vista will use SuperFetch and use all the RAM available. And that sir, is not a bad thing.

 

[Arbie]

What do you guys think ?

I think your ranting and gratuitous profanity is tiresome (see, I paid attention to what you asked.) Have your other 980 posts gone on like this?

For someone to say "consider Vista" was reasonable and might have been helpful. Nothing more, nothing less.

Arbie

 

[toadeater]

Originally posted by: rennya
That's how Vista's SuperFetch works. Calling it a waste of RAM is misleading at best. Even if you can populate your motherboard with 4GB RAM or more, Vista will use SuperFetch and use all the RAM available. And that sir, is not a bad thing.

Oh, so now he needs to buy 4GB RAM just to get it to run as well as XP on 2GB? What a great feature! :disgust:

 

[FireTech]

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
I was leaning towards this anyways as there is no telling how long it'll be ( if ever ) untill AMD release XP Hybrid Crossfire support. I'll prob just grab a TF7025 and an 8800GS then call it a day :-/

As has been stated by others: stop the ranting and swearing (it doesn't make people want to help you) and just get the new MB and GPU from your shop - problem solved.

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: FireTech

Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
I was leaning towards this anyways as there is no telling how long it'll be ( if ever ) untill AMD release XP Hybrid Crossfire support. I'll prob just grab a TF7025 and an 8800GS then call it a day :-/

As has been stated by others: stop the ranting and swearing (it doesn't make people want to help you) and just get the new MB and GPU from your shop - problem solved.

Yup, I agree. He probably answered his own "fn" question.

 

[bryanW1995]

dazed and confused, turn you PM on. I can't reply to your message.

 

[Cookie Monster]

HD3650 does not support hybrid crossfire. Hybrid crossfire only works on HD34x0 cards. Its abit different with hybrid SLi and geforce boost.

 

[FireTech]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
HD3650 does not support hybrid crossfire. Hybrid crossfire only works on HD34x0 cards.

and HD24x0 according to this AMD page which also notes it as Vista only.
ATI Hybrid CrossFireX? Technology is only supported with Windows Vista® operating system, and is not available with Windows® XP operating system.

It's unforunate for the OP that he has both the wrong GPU and OS for Hybrid CrossFireX usage (though it isn't clear from his posts if he's actually made the purchase yet).

 

[gameover]

You can't run hybrid crossfire at all with your current parts. Like mentioned before the 3650 can't be used with a 780g at all. The parts are too far off. The highest card you can use with a 780g is the 3470

See Compatibility chart for the list.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Yes I already purchased the parts from NewEgg when there was free shipping on the BioStar TA780G :-/

The fact that the HD3650 doesn't work with Hybrid Crossfire completely sux and makes my whole purchase a waste of money -_- .

Eh, I'm shipping out June 24th so to hell with selling and buying anything else :-/ I'll just deal with it and buy a gaming Laptop when I get out of AIT and get shipped overseas in November.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Or plan C, use Vista.

This.

Did you know that we just built a Vista machine for the shop and as soon as Vista Ultimate was installed ( what a fn waste of $280 to start with ) and before we installed any programs at all. Vista was using over 900mb of ram all by its lonesome. Compare that to XP with SP2 @ arround 160mb and you tell me what the hell isnt wrong w that picture -_- Thats 5x the memory consumption . . WITHOUT RUNNING EXTRA PROGRAMS !!!

...and this would be SuperFetch doing what it should and it isn't a bad thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offline_Files#SuperFetch