OMFG. The b*tch that killed my friend is getting a max of ONE YEAR in jail.

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: DonVito
I hear your frustration, and again, I'm not saying I endorse the outcome here, but neither you nor I was on the jury. They were read specific jury instructions on the legal definitions of "recklessness" and "under the influence of drugs or alcohol" that they applied to the facts here. Keep in mind, as well, that the prosecution bears the burden of proving these things beyond a reasonable doubt (that is, that there is no reasonable explanation other than her guilt of recklessness and/or being under the influence).

My gut feeling, based solely on reading these skeletal stories, is that she was guilty of the greater offense, but again, I wasn't on the jury.

I totally understand what you're saying and agree with you.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: z0mb13
do you even know what 1st degree murder is?

it will be 1st degree ONLY if the driver had an INTENT to kill your friend. It will be like "oh look at that cyclist, I want to run him over" This is 1st degree murder

Yes, but if you're drunk driving and you kill someone, that's also 1st degree murder. If you drink and get into your car, it's assumed that you had the intent to kill someone.

I dont think this is true, can a lawyer confirm?

 

[TravisT]

Fausto, as much as we don't get along sometimes, i gotta take your side on this one. This is absolutely ridiculous. Granted, I'm not one to throw someone in jail for life over an accident, there is a distinct difference in sending someone to jail for killing someone on the road who hasn't altered their ability to drive by using a substance and someone who has.

It is really unfortunate to realize that some people will simply get a slap on the wrist and be released back into public only to possibly have it happen again 6 months later. Lets just hope that some good comes out of the short amount of time this young lady spends behind bars.

 

[Rufio]

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: z0mb13
do you even know what 1st degree murder is?

it will be 1st degree ONLY if the driver had an INTENT to kill your friend. It will be like "oh look at that cyclist, I want to run him over" This is 1st degree murder

Yes, but if you're drunk driving and you kill someone, that's also 1st degree murder. If you drink and get into your car, it's assumed that you had the intent to kill someone.

I dont think this is true, can a lawyer confirm?

no it's not true, he's spewing a load of crap to justify his argument.

 

[pclstyle]

lol, believe me, methadone affects your driving. think the fact that she was a woman might have had anything to do with her relatively light sentence?

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: jalaram
Sorry to hear that. It's so scary to be cyclist on the road.

Too true, a neighbors 30 year old daughter was killed last year,on a bicycle ride.

I was thinking of buying a bicycle to ride to work,but,now.No way.

Sorry for your loss.

 

[TuxDave]

I'm very sorry to hear that. But know that this accident and the 1 year in jail is no small period of time and it will be an issue to her for many years to come.

 

[slycat]

Originally posted by: pclstyle
lol, believe me, methadone affects your driving. think the fact that she was a woman might have had anything to do with her relatively light sentence?

for sure..tears and all that bullshit. If it had been a burly blue collar dude, he'd be azzbanging for a long, long time.

 

[Nitemare]

Too bad they did not find the drugs on her, she would have gotten more jailtime for simple possession.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Too bad they did not find the drugs on her, she would have gotten more jailtime for simple possession.

I don't see how she got out of some form of DWI.

 

[vlk]

I really liked how a family of a person who died in a car accident, involving a hockey star last year (?) asked the judge to pretty much go easy on the accused, since nothing will bring their son back and ruining another person's life was not something they wanted to do.

Seeking revenge is a natural reaction for many flawed persons. Love and forgiveness make this world a better place, not violence and revenge.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: Ilmater
Again, the reasoning may be off, but only YOU care.

Actually, I care too, but DonVito has it well covered. No need for a dog pile - you fed out a line of BS and got called. Take it like a man.

Originally posted by: The Boss
Crying on the witness stand doesn't bring back the person she killed.

That may be, but will a 10 year sentence bring her back to life any faster than a 1 year sentence?

No but it will be a fine example to others (and a good lesson to her).

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: slycat

Originally posted by: pclstyle
lol, believe me, methadone affects your driving. think the fact that she was a woman might have had anything to do with her relatively light sentence?

for sure..tears and all that bullshit. If it had been a burly blue collar dude, he'd be azzbanging for a long, long time.

/me waits for doggiedog to start crying about how the asians get the worse punishments

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: vlk
I really liked how a family of a person who died in a car accident, involving a hockey star last year (?) asked the judge to pretty much go easy on the accused, since nothing will bring their son back and ruining another person's life was not something they wanted to do.

Seeking revenge is a natural reaction for many flawed persons. Love and forgiveness make this world a better place, not violence and revenge.

The hockey guy (Dany Heatley) was not impaired, just driving like a retard.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: vlk
I really liked how a family of a person who died in a car accident, involving a hockey star last year (?) asked the judge to pretty much go easy on the accused, since nothing will bring their son back and ruining another person's life was not something they wanted to do.

Seeking revenge is a natural reaction for many flawed persons. Love and forgiveness make this world a better place, not violence and revenge.

The hockey guy (Dany Heatley) was not impaired, just driving like a retard.

omfg you guys do not know this girl was a "druggie". She was taking methodone, with a prescription (it sounds like)

WTF happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty.?? She made a mistake and is PAYING for it.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: vlk
I really liked how a family of a person who died in a car accident, involving a hockey star last year (?) asked the judge to pretty much go easy on the accused, since nothing will bring their son back and ruining another person's life was not something they wanted to do.

Seeking revenge is a natural reaction for many flawed persons. Love and forgiveness make this world a better place, not violence and revenge.

I'd forgive a true accident, but not this one.

 

[isildur]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Too bad they did not find the drugs on her, she would have gotten more jailtime for simple possession.

I don't see how she got out of some form of DWI.

is driving while taking methadone illegal?

 

[Baked]

Such is life. If you wanna do something right, you gotta take it into your own hand. Some fvcking law we have in this country. Justice my ass. That shed only exists behind the screen.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: isildur

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Too bad they did not find the drugs on her, she would have gotten more jailtime for simple possession.

I don't see how she got out of some form of DWI.

is driving while taking methadone illegal?

not when you have a prescription.


I took some time and read through the articles... living in marietta it's close to home...


she was prescribed methodone. Noone has stated/known how much she took or anything... just that she was TAKING it, and she STATED this (it APPEARS before it had shown up on tests)


do you guys honestly thing the prosecuters just looked over this? I'm sure it was investigated thoroughly

 

[isildur]

Originally posted by: Baked
Such is life. If you wanna do something right, you gotta take it into your own hand. Some fvcking law we have in this country.

that, paired with your sig, is in no way ironic

 

[isildur]

Methadone is a legal medication produced by licensed and approved pharmaceutical companies using quality control standards. Under a physician's supervision, it is administered orally on a daily basis with strict program conditions and guidelines. Methadone does not impair cognitive functions. It has no adverse effects on mental capability, intelligence, or employability. It is not sedating or intoxicating, nor does it interfere with ordinary activities such as driving a car or operating machinery. Patients are able to feel pain and experience emotional reactions. Most importantly, methadone relieves the craving associated with opiate addiction. For methadone patients, typical street doses of heroin are ineffective at producing euphoria, making the use of heroin less desirable.

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/methadone/

shrug

a "druggie"?
perhaps, but taking methdone != druggie

of course you MIGHT argue that if she was taking it to treat an addiction then she HAD BEEN a druggie, but that would be essentially an appeal to emotion via character attack and not really relavent

 

[Amused]

Fausto,

Not to make light of your situation. I'm sorry for whta happened, but...

Your rant reminds me of the Opening Scene from the Godfather.

"I -- I went to the police, like a good American. These two boys were brought to trial. The

judge sentenced them to three years in prison -- suspended sentence. Suspended sentence!

They went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool. And those two bastard,

they smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, "for justice, we must go to Don Corleone."

Sorry. Just my addled brain...

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: The Boss
I'd forgive a true accident, but not this one.

So you have some evidence that the prosecutors and jury did not have available to them? If so, you must either be complicit in this crime or you have a very high-powered jump-to-conclusions mat.

Suprisingly light sentences aside, I'm glad our legal system does a fairly good job of insulating us from this kind of emotionally charged mob justice.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: The Boss
I'd forgive a true accident, but not this one.

So you have some evidence that the prosecutors and jury did not have available to them? If so, you must either be complicit in this crime or you have a very high-powered jump-to-conclusions mat.

Suprisingly light sentences aside, I'm glad our legal system does a fairly good job of insulating us from this kind of emotionally charged mob justice.

I completely 100% agree. This, imo, was an obvious accident.


I really don't want to be screwed if someone jumps in front of me, or I make an HONEST mistake and people who aren't in their right state of mind (due to the obvious and EXPECTED pain of the loss of a loved one) and I end up in jail for life.