OMG: 210 Million bux - CEO of Home Depot gets after resigning

Aug 23, 2000
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It's crap like this that pisses me off. So I spend my hard earned money at a store and the people that stock the shelves and help me by directly interfacing with the customer get jack squat pay wise yet the CEO in another state that has only been in the store to do PR stuff gets his salary plus Millions more to say I quit. Last time I said I quit the only thing I got was a new job.
 

mjrpes3

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Oct 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: leftyman
I wonder how much I would get if I quit my job?

You get escorted out by security.

With security making $20/hour, and 5 minutes of their time, that's a full $1.67 you're getting
 

LegendKiller

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I am sure some people are going to justify it, just like they did with other CEOs, yet under this guy's leadership HD stock has languished.

It's funny that no matter how good or bad a big CEO is, he still gets paid like a king while the peons get paid like serfs.
 

oogabooga

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
I am sure some people are going to justify it, just like they did with other CEOs, yet under this guy's leadership HD stock has languished.

It's funny that no matter how good or bad a big CEO is, he still gets paid like a king while the peons get paid like serfs.

If he's good he gets paid like a king for bringing the $$$
If he's bad he gets paid like a king... to leave?

It's amazing the market value CEO's have...
 

iroast

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they're paid well so that they don't ever have to go to Home Depot's competitors for a job and expose company secrets, for example?
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: oogabooga
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
I am sure some people are going to justify it, just like they did with other CEOs, yet under this guy's leadership HD stock has languished.

It's funny that no matter how good or bad a big CEO is, he still gets paid like a king while the peons get paid like serfs.

If he's good he gets paid like a king for bringing the $$$
If he's bad he gets paid like a king... to leave?

It's amazing the market value CEO's have...


No, it's not amazing, it's shameful.

CEO's aren't paid like regular people. They aren't paid market wages, they are paid fixed wages by fellow buddies on cross-linked compensation boards. Other CEOs sit on those boards, voting in pay raises for each other so that their buddies will scratch their backs.

Stockholders have no power because the vast majority of most company's stocks are held by mutual funds or other institutions. These funds vote by proxy for usually around 70% of all publicly held stock. Amazingly, most fund managers either work for banks or used to be bankers, or know many. They send business to the bankers, who often grease the wheels for them. If they work for a bank they often are buddies with the CEO, because banks love to get bond offering, IPO, stock offering, M&A, or other investment bank fees. What's even funnier is that while mutual fund managers help banks make larger profits through buddy systems they also bilk investor's money by charging high fees or churning fund portfolios.

They then get soft-dollars or "IOU's" from banker brokers, who then pay for overhead of the company. That soft-dollar cost is passed to investors in mutual funds, but it lowers the overhead of the actual companies, equaling more profits and higher paychecks for fund managers and fund company CEOS.

The whole think is a massive circle-jerk of high paying and interlocked elites who do nothing but spend average worker's money. The real shame is that people think that it's a free-market capitalist way of doing business. Little do they realize that it's nothing but a wealth distribution system intended to suck money from the buttom and put it at the top.

Even more think that by lowering taxes of the wealthy it encourages "trickle-down" economics, but in reality it just allows more wealth retention by the higher ups. Further redistribution downwards is now limited by elimination of the estate tax. Thus, wealth sucked from the bottom stays at the top, creating a larger elite class while the lowers are sucked dry.

I see it every day as I work in corporate America. I am not some anti-establishment hippie, but I am a realist and those that ignore aggregious CEO pay are doomed to be sucked dry.

It used to be that CEOs made a lower multiple of the lower paid workers and got reimbursed for awesome performance and stayed level for mediocre or poor performance. Now, they get paid high no matter what, even if they sucked and wasted stockholder wealth.

It's quite sad actually, that people now congratulate them for mediocrity.


 

crownjules

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Originally posted by: iroast
they're paid well so that they don't ever have to go to Home Depot's competitors for a job and expose company secrets, for example?

This would be covered under NDA (non-disclosure agreements) and non-compete clauses the CEO signed when hired. In other words, they don't pay you off when you leave to keep quiet. You agree not to expose those types of things when you are first hired.
 

yowolabi

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Jun 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
No, it's not amazing, it's shameful.

CEO's aren't paid like regular people. They aren't paid market wages, they are paid fixed wages by fellow buddies on cross-linked compensation boards. Other CEOs sit on those boards, voting in pay raises for each other so that their buddies will scratch their backs.

Stockholders have no power because the vast majority of most company's stocks are held by mutual funds or other institutions. These funds vote by proxy for usually around 70% of all publicly held stock. Amazingly, most fund managers either work for banks or used to be bankers, or know many. They send business to the bankers, who often grease the wheels for them. If they work for a bank they often are buddies with the CEO, because banks love to get bond offering, IPO, stock offering, M&A, or other investment bank fees. What's even funnier is that while mutual fund managers help banks make larger profits through buddy systems they also bilk investor's money by charging high fees or churning fund portfolios.

They then get soft-dollars or "IOU's" from banker brokers, who then pay for overhead of the company. That soft-dollar cost is passed to investors in mutual funds, but it lowers the overhead of the actual companies, equaling more profits and higher paychecks for fund managers and fund company CEOS.

The whole think is a massive circle-jerk of high paying and interlocked elites who do nothing but spend average worker's money. The real shame is that people think that it's a free-market capitalist way of doing business. Little do they realize that it's nothing but a wealth distribution system intended to suck money from the buttom and put it at the top.

Even more think that by lowering taxes of the wealthy it encourages "trickle-down" economics, but in reality it just allows more wealth retention by the higher ups. Further redistribution downwards is now limited by elimination of the estate tax. Thus, wealth sucked from the bottom stays at the top, creating a larger elite class while the lowers are sucked dry.

I see it every day as I work in corporate America. I am not some anti-establishment hippie, but I am a realist and those that ignore aggregious CEO pay are doomed to be sucked dry.

It used to be that CEOs made a lower multiple of the lower paid workers and got reimbursed for awesome performance and stayed level for mediocre or poor performance. Now, they get paid high no matter what, even if they sucked and wasted stockholder wealth.

It's quite sad actually, that people now congratulate them for mediocrity.

Now i'm depressed.
 

senseamp

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Sucks for the Home Depot shareholders. They could have gotten a bigger dividend. But other than that, since I don't own Home Depot stock, I really don't care.
 

OutHouse

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the owner and CEO of Costco is my hero.

has a one page contract, pays himself just under 300K a year, does his own leg work in the office... all around a awesome dude.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Sucks for the Home Depot shareholders. They could have gotten a bigger dividend. But other than that, since I don't own Home Depot stock, I really don't care.

This is the common misconception. Do you own a 401k, a mutual fund, a pension fund,? Are you a stockholder in any publicly held company? Do you work for one? If any of the above applies, it matters to you because it does affect you.
 

randal

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Eh, not too big of a deal. Profits are up 150% on 5-year window which is pretty good. Stock -has- languished, but that's because of the way the company chose to distribute it's earnings into infrastructure, expansion, etc instead of just pleasing the shareholders.

$.02
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: randal
Eh, not too big of a deal. Profits are up 150% on 5-year window which is pretty good. Stock -has- languished, but that's because of the way the company chose to distribute it's earnings into infrastructure, expansion, etc instead of just pleasing the shareholders.

$.02

Yeah, maybe they chose to distribute their earnings to CEOs who don't even work there anymore Investors aren't stupid. If the company was really investing in expansion and future growth, and investors expected a return on that investment, stock would have gone up.
 

redgtxdi

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Originally posted by: Citrix
the owner and CEO of Costco is my hero.

has a one page contract, pays himself just under 300K a year, does his own leg work in the office... all around a awesome dude.

QFT!

And allows himself to be fired if he slacks off under HIS OWN CONTRACT!!

More than my hero.........I'm simply not worthy!!

 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: senseamp
Sucks for the Home Depot shareholders. They could have gotten a bigger dividend. But other than that, since I don't own Home Depot stock, I really don't care.

This is the common misconception. Do you own a 401k, a mutual fund, a pension fund,? Are you a stockholder in any publicly held company? Do you work for one? If any of the above applies, it matters to you because it does affect you.

It does affect me, but not enough for me to care.
I don't own HD stock. I am looking out for me. I made 20+% return this year. I am happy.
 

FreshPrince

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they could've used that $$$ to buy Michael Vick an O-line, a couple of good wide receivers, and a good personal QB coach
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Originally posted by: Citrix
the owner and CEO of Costco is my hero.

has a one page contract, pays himself just under 300K a year, does his own leg work in the office... all around a awesome dude.

QFT!

And allows himself to be fired if he slacks off under HIS OWN CONTRACT!!

More than my hero.........I'm simply not worthy!!


Yep, and CEO of Toyota is paid under $1M, which is something like 10-20 times less than Ford and GM CEOs. So it's not like your only choice is to invest in an underachiever company with overpaid CEO.
 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Originally posted by: Citrix
the owner and CEO of Costco is my hero.

has a one page contract, pays himself just under 300K a year, does his own leg work in the office... all around a awesome dude.

QFT!

And allows himself to be fired if he slacks off under HIS OWN CONTRACT!!

More than my hero.........I'm simply not worthy!!


Yep, and CEO of Toyota is paid under $1M, which is something like 10-20 times less than Ford and GM CEOs. So it's not like your only choice is to invest in an underachiever company with overpaid CEO.

Ford has the ex-Boeing rainmaking medicine man. He is worth every penny.
 
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