omg omg omg FALLOUT 76 !

[SinOfLiberty]

for plebs

 

[SinOfLiberty]

60Hz is the standard I would think.

for plebs

 

[WhiteNoise]

for plebs

Hey that was uncalled for.

 

[Chaotic42]

If you're gaming at 1080P or 60Hz, you might as well just stick to Minesweeper...



Edit: I'll make exceptions for those gaming on 8K monitors at 60Hz.

 

[SMOGZINN]

If you're gaming at 1080P or 60Hz, you might as well just stick to Minesweeper...



Edit: I'll make exceptions for those gaming on 8K monitors at 60Hz.

But my ega monitor has 640×350 high resolution mode!

 

[WhiteNoise]

I game at 4k 60Hz. I guess I just suck.

 

[Raduque]

Anyway, so far it's a hard pass for me

It became a hard pass for me the instant I heard "online, with other players". No other details were needed.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What’s with all the hate for this game? Sounds like 7 days to die/rust in fallout world. Sounds kind of fun to me.

Am I wrong about something?

 

[shortylickens]

The problem with the gamebryo engine is they linked the physics to graphics and they also assumed everyone was fine with 60 frames per second.

If you meddle with the files and allow higher than 60 you'll screw up the physics. Bump into something and it bounces around at Mach 2, comes back, hits you in the head and kills you instantly.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The problem with the gamebryo engine is they linked the physics to graphics and they also assumed everyone was fine with 60 frames per second.

If you meddle with the files and allow higher than 60 you'll screw up the physics. Bump into something and it bounces around at Mach 2, comes back, hits you in the head and kills you instantly.

*opinon stuff so Peace & Love fellow gamers*

Personally I’m fine with 60fps. Honestly I doubt I’d be capable of visually telling the difference between 30 and 60 FPS. I bet many are like me too.
Weird how we gamers get stuck on benchmarks or numbers when the only things that matter are is it fun and does it look decent.

 

[Chaotic42]

*opinon stuff so Peace & Love fellow gamers*

Personally I’m fine with 60fps. Honestly I doubt I’d be capable of visually telling the difference between 30 and 60 FPS. I bet many are like me too.
Weird how we gamers get stuck on benchmarks or numbers when the only things that matter are is it fun and does it look decent.

I went to a 144Hz monitor and I'd never go back now. The difference is just stunning.

 

[moonbogg]

I went to a 144Hz monitor and I'd never go back now. The difference is just stunning.

Yeah, but now that $2000 HDR monitors are out, they say all our current monitors suddenly look like cheap washed out garbage. So that means all our games have always looked like cheap washed out garbage, and any new game we play will also look like cheap washed out garbage. We should start a non HDR therapy thread apparently.

Regarding the game itself, based on what I heard, I can think of 76 reasons NOT to play it. They are listed below:

No single player!
No single player!
No single player!
+73 more times

 

[DaveSimmons]

What’s with all the hate for this game? Sounds like 7 days to die/rust in fallout world. Sounds kind of fun to me.

Am I wrong about something?

The hate is because what we really want to play is Fallout 5, not online only + forced PVP + no story.

I've played and enjoyed a few online RPGs, but they've been mostly-solo, no-PVP and with decent storytelling: Star Trek Online, Star Wars TOR, Marvel Heroes Online (R.I.P.). I'm not looking for a PVP griefer playground.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The hate is because what we really want to play is Fallout 5, not online only + forced PVP + no story.

I've played and enjoyed a few online RPGs, but they've been mostly-solo, no-PVP and with decent storytelling: Star Trek Online, Star Wars TOR, Marvel Heroes Online (R.I.P.). I'm not looking for a PVP griefer playground.

This makes sense, I do like open world sandbox type games but I can understand your point.

 

[werepossum]

The problem with the gamebryo engine is they linked the physics to graphics and they also assumed everyone was fine with 60 frames per second.

If you meddle with the files and allow higher than 60 you'll screw up the physics. Bump into something and it bounces around at Mach 2, comes back, hits you in the head and kills you instantly.

Sometimes it doesn’t even take running in excess of 60 FPS. I’m currently playing through Skyrim Special Edition and I can’t count the times I’ve lost a big chunk of health from running into a half pound wicker basket. Once I almost killed myself dropping loot because I was overloaded. Dropping loot while in mid step is highly dangerous, gotta stop and then drop.

 

[werepossum]

The hate is because what we really want to play is Fallout 5, not online only + forced PVP + no story.

I've played and enjoyed a few online RPGs, but they've been mostly-solo, no-PVP and with decent storytelling: Star Trek Online, Star Wars TOR, Marvel Heroes Online (R.I.P.). I'm not looking for a PVP griefer playground.

Plus this isn’t even Player v Player, it’s Character v Character, with levels and perk cards. (I am very good at shooting automatic weapons because I found a perk card, but right now I will lose my ability to accurately shoot automatic weapons so that I can have the ability to hack terminals.) Plus they are bringing back weapon degrading, so you can experience the joy of carrying at least three additional weapons to finish that 300 round, point blank in the unarmored face fire fight.

To me, BGS games are pretty uniformly meh before being modded, so I’d have to think long and hard before buying even if they hadn’t managed to take everything in Fallout 3 & 4 that I hated and built a game from it.

 

[FreshBross]

After the disappointing fallout 4... my expectations for the new fallout are very low.

 

[shortylickens]

Sometimes it doesn’t even take running in excess of 60 FPS. I’m currently playing through Skyrim Special Edition and I can’t count the times I’ve lost a big chunk of health from running into a half pound wicker basket. Once I almost killed myself dropping loot because I was overloaded. Dropping loot while in mid step is highly dangerous, gotta stop and then drop.

SONS OF BITCHES!

 

[Midwayman]

I went to a 144Hz monitor and I'd never go back now. The difference is just stunning.

Agreed, but I have to admit that gsync does wonders at lower frame rates. Dipping below about 70fps is where it really started annoying me before and with gsync I hardly notice even in the 50's.

 

[Elcs]

It became a hard pass as soon as they announced it was going to be another FPS/TPS slugfest.

Personally I still haven't completed New Vegas, as good as it is, because of motion sickness issues (another reason why I'm making the worlds slowest progress in Everspace).

I was really looking forward to a Phoenix Point or Wasteland 3 from the Fallout fellas.

 

[Coalfax]

Insult to injury, its now only going to be available on their proprietary Bethesda.net site. No Team. No GOG.

No Thanks.

Keep your multiplayer bastard of a game. .

 

[Stg-Flame]

Bethesda are saying they aren't releasing any new games on Steam. Fallout 76 I could care less about, but that means Fallout 5 will be limited to whatever launcher they decide to make which I won't do. I already have Steam and Battle.net (just for Starcraft HD), which to me is one distributor too many. I only install UPlay when I play Far Cry, then uninstall it the moment I'm done with the game.

So many different launchers, it's starting to look like the 90s again where everyone has their own unique music player.

 

[ImpulsE69]

*opinon stuff so Peace & Love fellow gamers*

Personally I’m fine with 60fps. Honestly I doubt I’d be capable of visually telling the difference between 30 and 60 FPS. I bet many are like me too.
Weird how we gamers get stuck on benchmarks or numbers when the only things that matter are is it fun and does it look decent.

Yea I've never understood the obsession either. Sure it can make a considerable difference in multiplayer FPS games, but otherwise it really has very very very very very very very little impact on playing a game. It is WAY overblown and borderline obsessive compulsive the way people go on about it. As tech as I've been, I've never had that obsession with more worried about FPS than actually playing the game.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Bethesda are saying they aren't releasing any new games on Steam. Fallout 76 I could care less about, but that means Fallout 5 will be limited to whatever launcher they decide to make which I won't do. I already have Steam and Battle.net (just for Starcraft HD), which to me is one distributor too many. I only install UPlay when I play Far Cry, then uninstall it the moment I'm done with the game.

So many different launchers, it's starting to look like the 90s again where everyone has their own unique music player.

I can't wait until all these 'other' frontends implode.

 

[SMOGZINN]

So many different launchers, it's starting to look like the 90s again where everyone has their own unique music player.

Yes, it seems like we are at the beginning of a platform war. It is going to be an annoying decade while they work out that everyone having their own platform doesn't work, and that no individual publisher can offer enough to get people to use their platform without getting a bunch of other publishers onboard. If Microsoft can't do it, you can't Bethesda. Blizzard can only manage it because of WoW, and I doubt that even they could have done it today.

In the end it will be one or two that survive, and it will probably still be Steam simple because they have too much market share already.