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Midwayman

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Ugg. Yah, they all want that sweet 30% storefront cut. Digital storefronts are going to have to cut margins to attract large publishers if they don't want to turn into an indie garbage pit. The fact that steam has stopped curating titles isn't a good sign on that front. I don't care so much if they want their own store, just make some way to integrate friends lists from somewhere else for gods sake. I don't want to have to add all my friends to yet another service.
 
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Yes, it seems like we are at the beginning of a platform war. It is going to be an annoying decade while they work out that everyone having their own platform doesn't work, and that no individual publisher can offer enough to get people to use their platform without getting a bunch of other publishers onboard. If Microsoft can't do it, you can't Bethesda. Blizzard can only manage it because of WoW, and I doubt that even they could have done it today.

In the end it will be one or two that survive, and it will probably still be Steam simple because they have too much market share already.

I wonder if there will be a launcher to the launcher. Basically some overlay that tracks all your crap from Steam or Origin or whatever else and displays it in one app that serves you ads to support the app.
 
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Ugg. Yah, they all want that sweet 30% storefront cut. Digital storefronts are going to have to cut margins to attract large publishers if they don't want to turn into an indie garbage pit. The fact that steam has stopped curating titles isn't a good sign on that front. I don't care so much if they want their own store, just make some way to integrate friends lists from somewhere else for gods sake. I don't want to have to add all my friends to yet another service.

Or not have cross platform play. Kind of sucks if there are 3stores and none support cross store front play.
 

SMOGZINN

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I wonder if there will be a launcher to the launcher. Basically some overlay that tracks all your crap from Steam or Origin or whatever else and displays it in one app that serves you ads to support the app.

It would be a good idea. It should not be that hard to do, you give it your passwords and it can pull the info from the webpages, and then send the commands to launch the game in the respective launcher.
 

Midwayman

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Or not have cross platform play. Kind of sucks if there are 3stores and none support cross store front play.

One of the things I'd run into is between steam and GOG. If you have the steam version and you want a DLC you have to buy the steam DLC. Of course if GOG is having a sale, it sucks to be you. Sometimes I've seen things unlocked for owners of the title at one store and not the other. its been occasionally frustration, but will only get worse as store fragment.
 
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It would be a good idea. It should not be that hard to do, you give it your passwords and it can pull the info from the webpages, and then send the commands to launch the game in the respective launcher.

Now that I think of it more this would be a perfect feature for Microsoft to add. Nobody shops the windows store for games, at minimum this would encourage people to at least look at the windows game store.
 

FreshBross

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Now that I think of it more this would be a perfect feature for Microsoft to add. Nobody shops the windows store for games, at minimum this would encourage people to at least look at the windows game store.
Had to do the same for State of Decay 2
 

Newbian

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Well we got some hawt gameplay action of the new ccg they are releasing it looks like.

 
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werepossum

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Bethesda are saying they aren't releasing any new games on Steam. Fallout 76 I could care less about, but that means Fallout 5 will be limited to whatever launcher they decide to make which I won't do. I already have Steam and Battle.net (just for Starcraft HD), which to me is one distributor too many. I only install UPlay when I play Far Cry, then uninstall it the moment I'm done with the game.

So many different launchers, it's starting to look like the 90s again where everyone has their own unique music player.
If there ever is a Fallout 5 (as opposed to Fallout 76 2) it will be so far in the future that the launcher wars will probably be over.
 

werepossum

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There is zero gameplay in that gameplay video.
Well, this is the Fallout where players write their own stories and entertain each other, so it makes sense that they must also provide their own gameplay in the gameplay trailer.
 

moonbogg

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The card upgrade system looks really stupid. They say you can't buy them so it's not pay to win, but those cards look an awful lot like Star Wars BF2 star card garbage and those sickening cards in the new Need For Speed. All garbage. If I want to play cards, I'll grab a deck of 52 and play some damn cards. Keep that stupid crap out of the games. Idiots.
 

DigDog

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They are not cards, its just how they represented perks because "cards" are a thing now. Years ago they would have been bobbleheads.

I dont like that your perks can come and go depending on which you have equipped.
 
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moonbogg

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Do get random stuff in a pack or something? I don't like it. They look like cards. Its a card pack like the dev said, and you even get a stick of gum with it like the old school baseball card packs. Its like they planned on selling randomass lootbox card packs to people, but after the ish hit the fan, they chickened out and changed it last minute and just took away the ability to buy them. I don't like it. Looks too much like BS to me. They'd be better off with bobble heads. Screw this game.
 
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DigDog

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Update: fallout 76 is *just like* any other fallout.
They have made some UI changes, the character build has been slightly tweaked, poteto potato.
 

ImpulsE69

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It's why I ignore most games from anyone but Steam. GoG I'm not playing the same games that have that have friends needs. Beyond that...I'm not playing their game. Too many choices out there to jump through those hoops.
 

EXCellR8

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Can't knock it until I try it... if it's fun who cares what type of game it classifies as? Some people still consider Destiny an MMO...

speculation: 4.5 out of 5 people bashing it will play it and enjoy it.
 

KMFJD

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When I heard it was going to be an MMO, I immediately started caring.
 

Stg-Flame

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Can't knock it until I try it...
Yes we can. You can easily form opinions based off reviews and trailers.

if it's fun who cares what type of game it classifies as? Some people still consider Destiny an MMO...
I'd say the vast majority of people care about the game type. Lots of people only like single player. Lots of people prefer multiplayer. Considering the current flavor of the month is battle royale games, that proves that most people care about the game type.

speculation: 4.5 out of 5 people bashing it will play it and enjoy it.
I don't play MMOs and I know several other posters here don't play them as well. I'm not saying the game won't be fun, but it's not for me. I don't care about online only games and I really don't care about multiplayer aspects in general anymore, so Fallout 76 just doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. I'm sure if I was given a copy for free I'd eventually play it, but since that's not going to happen and I'm not going to spend money on the game, I don't see this ending up in my library.
 
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nakedfrog

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Watched some footage last night, yeah, doesn't look like it's for me.
Of course, I still haven't gotten around to even playing FO4...
 

EXCellR8

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...You can easily form opinions based off reviews and trailers.

That's a lousy method of deciding if you're going to enjoy a game or not; it's not the same as trying it for yourself. There are plenty of games with lousy trailers and biased reviews that turned out to be pretty great. I can understand not wanting to spend the money, especially if you're otherwise tied up, but until you actually play a game first hand your opinion (based solely on 3rd parties) is basically void.

Also, how many trailers are 100% in-game footage?
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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I can understand not wanting to spend the money, especially if you're otherwise tied up, but until you actually play a game first hand your opinion (based solely on 3rd parties) is basically void.

We are now in a place where we are literally spoiled for choice. There are many hundreds more games out there than I will ever get around to playing, even ones that are good and I suspect I would really like. So a bad review or a bad trailer is enough for me to not want to spend my time with it. Sure it might be a gem really worth my limited time, but if so I imagine that eventually I'll hear that about it from people I know and trust to give good reviews. So, I will let others test out the games to see if they are any good and just accept that I might miss a few good ones that got a bad wrap.
 

KMFJD

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Different strokes for different folks....not everyone likes multiplayer, myself i hate single player which is why i'm excited about the new game.
 
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