Originally posted by: kukyfrope
I've noticed this trend a lot too, and this may contribute to why women get paid less? Just a thought.
Originally posted by: Hacana
From my brothers' experience it works with both sexes, too.
Example. My brothers' workgroup consisted of three people. He had a week of vacation to take before the year was over, or he lost it. So, at the beginning of October, he put in for vacation time over Halloween and into the first part of November. His coworker Dave, demanded that he delay his vacation so that he could go trick-or-treating with his kids. That got a big WTF from my brother and resounding No.
Originally posted by: crownjules
Originally posted by: armatron
I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF.
I can just picture this, in rapid succession.
Originally posted by: HN
no problem with women; it's the demanding people that get me :|
if you ask me nicely to help accomodate your schedule, then i might consider it.
demand it of me and i will laugh maniacally and take it one step further to influence people around me NOT to help you.
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.
WTGDF.
I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.
Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.
OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.
MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.
WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.
cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.
I could make the exact same assertions about males in my former workplace (several of them were single fathers).
I'm not going to be obnoxious and make overgeneralizations like "cliffs: Men in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.", though. It's a shame you've had such experience, but blame it on the individuals themselves instead of generalizing such assertions to all women.
It's disappointing how many people take a handful of personal experiences and feel that gives them enough evidence to generalize to millions of others.
You appear to have some very serious and disturbing issues with misogyny.
For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered.Also, let's not forget that come divorce time these same guys would be screaming about how the lazy biatch needs to get off her arse and get a job.
That said, I've had to deal with people like the OP is complaining about and it's annoying
as all get out.If you KNOW you need certain days off for whatever reason, put your requests in way ahead of time, don't wait till last minute and then expect others to switch their plans.
Originally posted by: chimmytime
you forgot to mention that they can't drive. hehe
For every working mother who has to leave the workplace early to deal with a sick kid or school cancellation there's a father who doesn't have to be bothered
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.
WTGDF.
I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.
Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.
OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.
MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.
WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.
cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.
Originally posted by: RMSistight
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: kukyfrope
I've noticed this trend a lot too, and this may contribute to why women get paid less? Just a thought.
I tried to explain this theory to my wife. Boy did she get pissed. All I said was that just because some one isn't laid off for taking a year off to have a baby doesn't mean they will get a raise for doing an outstanding job of not being at work.
You know some companies in China (Timberland, for example) hire women factory workers in their manufactuering plants. When they hit 25 years old, they automatically fire them because they do not want to pay medical coverages mandated by Chinese law in the event of the worker of becoming preganant. I say the laws here are pretty good if you ask me.
Originally posted by: OrByte
To the OP and all the people that agree with him, you guys sounds like idiots.
don't generalize, it automatically disqualifies your argument. It isn't a Male or Female thing in the workplace it is a social disease called ENTITLEMENT that you have a problem with.
I dislike anyone who feels that they are entitled to something, which it sounds like this ONE lady in your office is guilty of...that approach will get you no where.
But it is just one lady, I am sure you don't have to look far to find one man who does the some thing and acts the same way.
don't make these generalizations that women suck in the workplace, that's just plain silly.
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
I have one and only one problem with working with women.
I'm a fairly quiet person, and I pretty much stay in my cubicle. Women translate that fact in a way that they think I'm a good listener. So they assume that I want to listen to them. Every job I've ever had, my office has become the "bitching spot". They gripe about their jobs, their hair, their coworkers, their workload, the color of the carpet, something their husband said last night, the movie they saw the day before their ninth birthday, the fact that their deodorent now only comes in unscented, their little doggy at home peeing all over the carpet, the fact that they aren't 16 anymore, how that damned George Bush ought to see things their way, how white paper would be so much prettier if it was pink, that Walmart is taking over the entire retail world, that smelling wet fingernail polish makes them feel all funny, that Clive down in accounting looked at them funny this morning, that typing nonstop all day is giving them brain cancer, that their butts have grown five sizes larger since just yesterday, that Krispy Kreme is skimping on the filling in their doughnuts, that everyone keeps screaming something about TPS reports, that someone in Engineering told a joke this morning that they just didn't get and nobody should be allowed to tell jokes in the workplace anyway, that its just so unfair that Barbara gets to take the mail to the mailbox every day, that last night at the club Billy put something in her drink and she can't remember a period of about three hours, that maxi-pads don't come in any larger sizes, and so on, ad nauseum.
But mostly, they just gripe about each other.
Try being the only male in an entire law firm. I am expected to know everything related to the toilet, fridge, computers (which I do, as I set them up), why their car doesn't work, bug executions, etc. ON TOP of being 'Dr. Phil' for the office. If they weren't untouchably hot I'd have been out of here a while ago.
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.
No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.
I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.
LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations!
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.
No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.
I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.
LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations!
Hey it's the resident teenage feminist. Your comment makes absolutely no sense, Alexandra. Re-read the post.
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: kukyfrope
I've noticed this trend a lot too, and this may contribute to why women get paid less? Just a thought.
Yup, women get paid less for a good reason.
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.
No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.
I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.
LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations!
Hey it's the resident teenage feminist. Your comment makes absolutely no sense, Alexandra. Re-read the post.
uh.
seriously.
In one year I've taken 1 sick day, 2 personal days (out of 15 personal days) and my vacation has 2 days left, rest is at the end of dec..
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: montanafan
Originally posted by: armatron
Originally posted by: sixone
I'm not saying you're completely wrong...but I hope you're not posting from work.
No, I'm not. I took the day off after this incident in our dept meeting. Out of 10 people, 7 agreed to switch or GIVE UP vacation time. I refused to do either. I explained that I already had plans, and it sucks, but there's nothing I can do. The lady I am speaking of started talking about how the company doesn't adapt to women in the workplace, etc.
I was like WTF. my boss was like WTF. his boss was like WTF. After that I took the day as a personal day. I had stuff to do anyway. bleh.
LOL! You're whining because those darn women want to take time off to take care of their kids all the time and then tell us that you took the day off just because you were pissed off. Those darn men, always taking time off and making others take up the slack because they're so emotional. How's that for making generalizations!
Hey it's the resident teenage feminist. Your comment makes absolutely no sense, Alexandra. Re-read the post.
uh.
seriously.
In one year I've taken 1 sick day, 2 personal days (out of 15 personal days) and my vacation has 2 days left, rest is at the end of dec..
sygyzy, I'm not a teenager by a longshot and I did read the posts. Did you read mine? Is your sarcasm meter broken.
armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?
Originally posted by: armatron
she has kids, and is DEMANDING (not asking) that the rest of the dept redo our vacation days to revolve around her kids time off from school.
WTGDF.
I hate to say this, and this is JUST my experience; but I HATE, HATE working with women. I have worked with 5-6 different women throughout my professional corporate experience of a measly 6 years, and EVERY one was horrible to work with. a couple were power-hungry psychos, a couple were complete losers ALWAYS calling in sick or with problems, one had a newborn and was NEVER there (company was expected to accomodate this, even though it was a huge hassle) and now this whore who has a ~7 year old who is always going through some issue.
Look, I know you have kids, damn, I know you fell down the stairs, got pregnant, and had no choice in the matter. I also know that you HAVE to work, which means someone else is halfass watching your rugrat where for some reason you always have to go home.
OMFG abort that thing or quit your job. If you couldn't afford to have kids and properly raise them, THEN DON'T HAVE THEM.
MANAGERS:
FIRE THEIR LAZY ASSES. Stop worrying all the time about getting sued, etc. SOMEONE has to stand up to this ******.
WOMEN:
YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THE WORKPLACE. There is NO reason for you to boss anyone around (when you are no manager, etc) and NOONE is respecting you or thinking higher of you, 'women' or whatever you are standing up for.
cliffs:
Women in the workplace (in my experiences) SUCK.
Originally posted by: montanafan
armatron, and I'm a woman in the workforce with 200+ sick days saved up because I very rarely miss work. What was your point again?