On the budget, Obama has Republicans cornered

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senseamp

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GOP is going to be politically beaten into a bloody pulp on this. It's now transparent that this fight is not about the budget, but defunding womens health. They need to drop all policy riders. Their base is not going to like that, but they can't win with their base alone. If they don't backtrack ASAP, they'll be bleeding independent support every day.
 

bfdd

Lifer
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GOP is going to be politically beaten into a bloody pulp on this. It's now transparent that this fight is not about the budget, but defunding womens health. They need to drop all policy riders. Their base is not going to like that, but they can't win with their base alone. If they don't backtrack ASAP, they'll be bleeding independent support every day.

good, let them get politically beaten into a bloody pulp. shut it down!
 

JulesMaximus

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GOP is going to be politically beaten into a bloody pulp on this. It's now transparent that this fight is not about the budget, but defunding womens health. They need to drop all policy riders. Their base is not going to like that, but they can't win with their base alone. If they don't backtrack ASAP, they'll be bleeding independent support every day.

I heard Harry Reid admit this yesterday and it just made me so fucking angry.

Briefing reporters, Reid seemed confounded as to Republicans' ultimate goal. Democrats, he said, were now offering $38 billion in spending reductions, and that Thursday night's White House meeting produced agreement on all but one of the GOP's favored spending guidelines — which would restrict abortion services.

"We've come to realize that the moving target is now focused on the backs of women in America," Reid said.

Funding for Planned Parenthood accounts for 0.01% of the federal budget and NONE of that money is used to fund abortions BY LAW. Yet these fuckers want to shut down the federal government over this trivial bullshit.
 
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SP33Demon

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Funding for Planned Parenthood accounts for 0.01% of the federal budget and NONE of that money is used to fund abortions BY LAW. Yet these fuckers want to shut down the federal government over this trivial bullshit.

And Repubs can change that to something different such as oil subsidies being cut... yet they specifically chose PP because they knew it was a showstopper that Dems aren't going to agree to. I'm not a Dem but applaud them for sticking with their guns, Repubs look even stupider by refusing to remove that rider.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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So I'm calling it now: This is happening.

Why isn't there a poll in this thread?

Wait, is there a poll? I always just go automatically to the last page and work my way backwards.
 

her209

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So I'm calling it now: This is happening.

Why isn't there a poll in this thread?

Wait, is there a poll? I always just go automatically to the last page and work my way backwards.
TIP: If there's a poll, it would be indicated on the thread title.
 

comptr6

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I heard that mousey little fuck Harry Reid admit this yesterday and it just made me so fucking angry.



Funding for Planned Parenthood accounts for 0.01% of the federal budget and NONE of that money is used to fund abortions BY LAW. Yet these fuckers want to shut down the federal government over this trivial bullshit.

Reid has a hollow argument. The "health services" are available for women with or without federal financial support of abortions. The federal government has no business providing funds for abortion. We do not have the money. We do not support the culture of death. The time to start responsible fiscal policy is now.

Unfortunately, Democrats do not know what that is. They are getting too much money from the abortion industry lobbyists.

Liberals in the Senate are ready to shut down the federal government rather than end the practice of borrowing money from China to fund abortion providers here at home.
- Representative Mike Pence (R-IN)
 

HomerJS

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Reid has a hollow argument. The "health services" are available for women with or without federal financial support of abortions. The federal government has no business providing funds for abortion. We do not have the money. We do not support the culture of death. The time to start responsible fiscal policy is now.

Unfortunately, Democrats do not know what that is. They are getting too much money from the abortion industry lobbyists.

- Representative Mike Pence (R-IN)

I'll repeat this one more time so even you get it...they don't!

Google Hyde amendment

Any abortion services PP provides are privately funded.
 

her209

No Lifer
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Reid has a hollow argument. The "health services" are available for women with or without federal financial support of abortions. The federal government has no business providing funds for abortion. We do not have the money. We do not support the culture of death. The time to start responsible fiscal policy is now.

Unfortunately, Democrats do not know what that is. They are getting too much money from the abortion industry lobbyists.

- Representative Mike Pence (R-IN)
Ahahaha.... is it still considered "culture of death" if the woman was raped?
 

Tom

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How many steps are there between doing away with healthcare for women and whipping rape victims to death ?

How far are the Republican going down that road ?

wasn't that long ago we burned witches.
 

thraashman

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I swear if I ever meet any of the Republican leaders in person I'll end up in jail as I don't think I'd have the willpower to not smack them really hard. On that note a friend (and hot girl that I'm trying to get with) works for Newt Gingrich, so there's a chance I might end up in jail depending on how things go.
 

wuliheron

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How many steps are there between doing away with healthcare for women and whipping rape victims to death ?

How far are the Republican going down that road ?

wasn't that long ago we burned witches.


It's a living.
 

comptr6

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I'll repeat this one more time so even you get it...they don't!

Google Hyde amendment

Any abortion services PP provides are privately funded.

Does Federal aid go to keep PP clinics open? Pay for their staff and equipment? If the answer to any of these questions is yes then American tax dollars are going to pay for women walking in there have weaves in their hair, fake nails, and the latest Cell phone WITH Internet..... why can't they pay to murder their own DAMN baby!

One thing you've all made clear is that libs would rather kill children than pay the troops. Disgusting.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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wasn't that long ago we burned witches.

From what I can tell, they haven't stopped adding completely unrelated items to this budget, so this could still happen again.

Government funding for witch executions is essential.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Looks like Boehner remains stuck on stupid. It's not surprising given GOP's base, you just got to turn AM radio on for 5 minutes to realize they are demanding a shutdown. Eventually he'll throw them under the bus, but right now he's a crying deer stuck in the headlights.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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Looks like Boehner remains stuck on stupid. It's not surprising given GOP's base, you just got to turn AM radio on for 5 minutes to realize they are demanding a shutdown. Eventually he'll throw them under the bus, but right now he's a crying deer stuck in the headlights.

I can't listen to AM radio anymore, it makes me want to rip into my dashboard.
 

senseamp

Lifer
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I can't listen to AM radio anymore, it makes me want to rip into my dashboard.

I don't generally listen to it either, but today I tuned in to see just what sort of trouble GOP is going to be with their base if they compromise.
It's really an awesome wedge that Obama and the Dems set up for them. Either compromise and lose your base or don't compromise and lose the independents.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Does Federal aid go to keep PP clinics open? Pay for their staff and equipment? If the answer to any of these questions is yes then American tax dollars are going to pay for women walking in there have weaves in their hair, fake nails, and the latest Cell phone WITH Internet..... why can't they pay to murder their own DAMN baby!

One thing you've all made clear is that libs would rather kill children than pay the troops. Disgusting.

Michelle Bachmann, glad to see you've joined our forums.
 

Nebor

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good, let them get politically beaten into a bloody pulp. shut it down!

Agreed. I'm glad senseamp is appreciating the political maneuvering involved in this process.... But I really don't care. I don't vote, but if I did this wouldn't effect my view of either side. And I just think it'll be entertaining to see the whole thing shut down (and I'm active duty military.) So yes, let's SHUT IT DOWN!
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
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Does Federal aid go to keep PP clinics open? Pay for their staff and equipment? If the answer to any of these questions is yes then American tax dollars are going to pay for women walking in there have weaves in their hair, fake nails, and the latest Cell phone WITH Internet..... why can't they pay to murder their own DAMN baby!

One thing you've all made clear is that libs would rather kill children than pay the troops. Disgusting.

Bullshit. The amount of money allocated to PP is such a tiny amount only a fool...or a republican would shut down the government over it.

Percentage of Federal Budget spent on Military: 20%
Percentage spent on Planned Parenthood: 0.01%
 
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