nakedfrog
No Lifer
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All you tyrants should be nicer to OP!
Nah, Moonbeam is annoyed that there is so little support here for his precious Prop-13 tax break among folks who don't benefit from it. Opposing Prop-13 is how we joined the radical left.Moonie has decided this forum is “the radical left” primarily cause he has the hots for J. Peterson.
(who incidentally has taken another notch to the reicht)
Nah, Moonbeam is annoyed that there is so little support here for his precious Prop-13 tax break among folks who don't benefit from it. Opposing Prop-13 is how we joined the radical left.
Phil Ochs on liberals, "Ten degrees to the left of center in good times. Ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally."
NopeIf you were aware that my opposition to 13 removal has nothing to to do with it benefiting me and that I voted against it when it was on the ballot? If you were would that alter what you have accused me of here?
Why. The validity of your rant de pends on them being true. Why would you hold onto a point of view denied by the facts?Nope
My effort in this thread has been about everything that you say here. You have stated that you do not see tyranny becomes an issue on a forum like this where everybody is free and unregulated and that is exactly the point that JS Mill made, that people alway look at tyranny as exactly that, the tyranny of the powers that be, not noticing the tyranny of the society itself, the forum members themselves, to tyrannize individual members.I guess I'm not seeing how tyranny becomes an issue in an internet forum like this one where everybody gets to express their opinions freely and with little censorship. Surely you cannot be tyrannized by other posters. Amazed? Amused? Annoyed? Appalled? Yes. Tyrannized? No.
It is virtually certain that there will be one take on a posted issue that garners more support than the others. Seems kind of silly to imply that any majority is automatically tyrannical.
FWIW I am much more troubled by the antithesis of the tyranny of the majority. The spreading populist notion that every individual's opinion is just as worthwhile as anyone (and everyone) else's (and just as likely to be the best and/or most correct) along with the implied nobility that rugged individual action is superior to working with others to achieve common goals. The anarchy of the know-it-all individualists.
Looking forward to a quick guilty rule in MELD and FELD for Morten, that would be extremely funny.Personal preference of course but compared to the nutters in df and nb, ill take one of her any day. Its the rise of populism, its a nut cracker. Wouldnt it be something, that the thing that is supposed to connect us all, the internet, is the very thing that ends up breaking us, social media? How is that for Irony.
How come that her dance with the law has been received the way it has while another, widely unpopular profession, animal cruelty for fur shut down by covid, has another politician on the ropes?
If you got the media and bucks to sell it, they can blast it right into our minds.
My comment wasn't directed at you in particular, more of a general statement.For me it isn't just a something. It is a critical point necessary to understand for our survival. We create what we fear. I believe that what we fear is re-experiencing our deepest feelings, the experiences of childhood where we were put down as a threat to the reputation of the family, the group, the team, the party, the nation, humanity and proper morality itself. In ordinary circumstances of relative plenty and social progress, where there is a feeling that justice prevails, the liberal mind can flower. But when things turn to the negative and some 'other' is blamed the liberal turns into a conservative filled with contempt, in the liberal's case, with people who promulgate divisive fear. That just creates more of what we fear. When the water in the toilet bowl starts to experience the Coriolis force the left and the right start paddling in the same direction with it.
So I am not sure if you want to tell I am off in my opinion and have confused it with substance or not.
I have hope that the US with it's long history of immigration and stigmatization of the newly arrived and all our myths and realities about being a melting pot will prove to have risen above the Trump wave of what I hope will prove another instance in our history of temporary insanity. The US really is a place that underdogs can prosper to the benefit of all Americans.
The point is that it a product of group fear, that it leads to bullying and oppression, blind rejection of reason and all exactly like the anarchy egotistical know-it-alls frightened sheep.
I thought not but I had a suspicion that some others did. I asked BD what he saw because I had a hunch he liked what you said for the same reasons that I did.My comment wasn't directed at you in particular, more of a general statement.
To be completely honest I don't hang out in P/N enough to be able to single anyone out.
And I think always because we pay no attention to the unconscious assumptions we make, that any weakening of faith in the ego spells self contempt or should I say the awareness it's what we actually do feel.Of course no one needs to be told that, for they are all good and righteousness incarnate. Not tribal or zealous or delusional like those "other" people. Certainly not human.
Least that's what our Egos tell us.
I believe that what we fear is re-experiencing our deepest feelings, the experiences of childhood where we were put down as a threat to the reputation of the family, the group, the team, the party, the nation, humanity and proper morality itself.
I can't answer if I mean this in a literal sense because I don't know in what way you see it as literal. This is the best explanation I can think of to give you on literal:So I have a question. What you write above is something you've been writing on this board for at least 15 years now, and I've always wondered about it. Do you mean this in a literal sense? In which case, I would point out that you are in effect saying that everyone's early childhood experience is the same.
To me, this sounds a lot like a Freudian psychodrama. Not the same psychodramas that Freud believed occurred in early childhood, but the idea of a drama that plays out in a child's head playing such a highly deterministic role in his or her behavior throughout life. It's a very Freudian idea.
Is that the half alien Queen Dilo?Even if US decided to change to a parliamentary system, won’t make a difference until they actually create viable 3rd parties. And how model is our society? The right wing nut jobs taking talking points from the MAGAtards down south. Yesterday our own QAnon quack lady ordered her moronic followers to arrest an entire police department for failure to arrest Trudeau for treason and other various violations related to covid restrictions. She remains away from the protest so she can’t be arrested. But unsure what 2 followers did beyond the others to get arrested though.
Is that the half alien Queen Dilo?
I really admire how polite Canadians are.
Is that the half alien Queen Dilo?
Yeah dipping into the antivax, can find idiots willing to attempt to arrest Trudeau to oust him from power even though the Liberal party won re-election a year ago.Eh? Maybe a portion of Canadians still maintain decorum. I don't .
lol, a bunch of delusioned middle aged people. They should try that crap in China,Thailand or Cambodia.
Ha. Sardines?
This is precisely why the :eyeroll: reaction should not have been removed.I am saying that while you do not believe you are dishonest in lashing out, that, in fact, it is dishonest to do so. There is deep wisdom to be learned from ‘let he who is without sin cast the first stone’.
My 'open mind' has seen enough of this over 3 decades. No more for you, because you deposit nothing of value; just more of the same old broken record.