ON Whey Protein

[glenn beck]

My last 2 buckets have had a nasty taste to them, anybody else experience this, just trying to
figure out if it's just the stock at my local Vitamin Shoppe

 

[crt1530]

Mine tastes fine. What is the expiration date on the containers? Also, once you open them, you might want to consider keeping them in the fridge if you don't have air conditioning. Humidity will make protein powder expire quicker.

 

[spamsk8r]

I have the Vanilla Ice Cream flavor and it tastes like balls. So I mix it with coffee and splenda.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I have the Vanilla Ice Cream flavor and it tastes like balls. So I mix it with coffee and splenda.

Dude in milk that stuff is awesome, I love it.

edit: OP are you getting the natural stuff or the normal stuff?

 

[ctark]

Most cant drink milk on their diets, if they are serious about the goals.

 

[girlchocolate]

Originally posted by: ctark
Most cant drink milk on their diets, if they are serious about the goals.

uhhhhhh
sorry but you're really really wrong.

 

[ctark]

Sorry but I'm right. IF you are eating clean, milk really isnt really an option. I'm not saying you cant reach your goals while drinking milk. When I said serious, i mean the people who are hardcore body builders. Maybe I worded it a poor way.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: ctark
Sorry but I'm right. IF you are eating clean, milk really isnt really an option. I'm not saying you cant reach your goals while drinking milk. When I said serious, i mean the people who are hardcore body builders. Maybe I worded it a poor way.

Fortunately I have no aspirations toward bodybuilding.

 

[glenn beck]

Originally posted by: girlchocolate

Originally posted by: ctark
Most cant drink milk on their diets, if they are serious about the goals.

uhhhhhh
sorry but you're really really wrong.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: ctark
Sorry but I'm right. IF you are eating clean, milk really isnt really an option. I'm not saying you cant reach your goals while drinking milk. When I said serious, i mean the people who are hardcore body builders. Maybe I worded it a poor way.

Sorry, but... you're still wrong.

 

[ctark]

If you are tryig to maximize goals (which means putting on muscle the most efficient way) then milk is a no no. Go to any website where there are a lot of professional body builders and a lot will agree that you shouldnt drink milk. Milk is loaded with sugar. I read all the time about people whining about the taste of their oatmeal or protien drinks and they always end up telling them to man up and just eat/drink it.

 

[girlchocolate]

Still wrong.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: ctark
If you are tryig to maximize goals (which means putting on muscle the most efficient way) then milk is a no no. Go to any website where there are a lot of professional body builders and a lot will agree that you shouldnt drink milk. Milk is loaded with sugar. I read all the time about people whining about the taste of their oatmeal or protien drinks and they always end up telling them to man up and just eat/drink it.

Sorry to tell you, but you're still wrong. Very wrong. Milk is is great regardless if your goal is bulking or cutting. On one end it's easy protein-rich calories, and on the other dairy has been shown to positively impact fat loss.

So either way it benefits you as long as you're not retarded about it and keep things in moderation. If you drink a gallon of milk a day and end up over your maintenance calories while cutting, it's obviously not going to help you lose fat. Two servings a day won't add much calories while dieting and will allow you to stay under maintenance while also getting the benefit of increased bone density and increased fat oxidation. If you're bulking and have a problem eating so many calories every day, milk is a very easy way to get quality calories and protein into your diet. In fact, many bodybuilders back in the day would bulk on milk. Mark Rippetoe even recommends his athletes to drink a crap load of milk.

So... you're still wrong. Go to any website where people actually know what they're talking about and they'll all agree. You can continue to argue all you want because some professional bodybuilders told you so, but it doesn't make you any less wrong. Oh, and if you don't believe me about increased fat oxidation by diary here's some references...

Role of calcium and dairy products in energy partitioning and weight management.

Effect of short-term high dietary calcium intake on 24-h energy expenditure, fat oxidation, and fecal fat excretion.

Effect of dairy calcium or supplementary calcium intake on postprandial fat metabolism, appetite, and subsequent energy intak

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: ctark
If you are tryig to maximize goals (which means putting on muscle the most efficient way) then milk is a no no. Go to any website where there are a lot of professional body builders and a lot will agree that you shouldnt drink milk. Milk is loaded with sugar. I read all the time about people whining about the taste of their oatmeal or protien drinks and they always end up telling them to man up and just eat/drink it.

Sorry to tell you, but you're still wrong. Very wrong. Milk is is great regardless if your goal is bulking or cutting. On one end it's easy protein-rich calories, and on the other dairy has been shown to positively impact fat loss.

So either way it benefits you as long as you're not retarded about it and keep things in moderation. If you drink a gallon of milk a day and end up over your maintenance calories while cutting, it's obviously not going to help you lose fat. Two servings a day won't add much calories while dieting and will allow you to stay under maintenance while also getting the benefit of increased bone density and increased fat oxidation. If you're bulking and have a problem eating so many calories every day, milk is a very easy way to get quality calories and protein into your diet. In fact, many bodybuilders back in the day would bulk on milk. Mark Rippetoe even recommends his athletes to drink a crap load of milk.

So... you're still wrong. Go to any website where people actually know what they're talking about and they'll all agree. You can continue to argue all you want because some professional bodybuilders told you so, but it doesn't make you any less wrong. Oh, and if you don't believe me about increased fat oxidation by diary here's some references...

Role of calcium and dairy products in energy partitioning and weight management.

Effect of short-term high dietary calcium intake on 24-h energy expenditure, fat oxidation, and fecal fat excretion.

Effect of dairy calcium or supplementary calcium intake on postprandial fat metabolism, appetite, and subsequent energy intak

This should put an end to any milk-related arguments.

 

[StageLeft]

You think their vanilla is bad, try strawberry. ON is a terribly overrated brand. I buy cheapest stuff from dpsnutrition i can find and it invariably tastes better.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Kaido
This should put an end to any milk-related arguments.

I like the complete lack of bias on that page, would read again!


I don't see a problem if you're using skim milk. The fat in whole or even 2% is entirely avoidable and there's no real reason to use it. 1% seems a good compromise if you're too prissy / finicky to use skim and like it.

I've never come across a protein powder that didn't taste like undrinkable ass when mixed with water. Skim ftw.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: Kaido
This should put an end to any milk-related arguments.

I like the complete lack of bias on that page, would read again!


I don't see a problem if you're using skim milk. The fat in whole or even 2% is entirely avoidable and there's no real reason to use it. 1% seems a good compromise if you're too prissy / finicky to use skim and like it.

I've never come across a protein powder that didn't taste like undrinkable ass when mixed with water. Skim ftw.

You body needs fat (including saturated fat) to produce testosterone.

 

[ctark]

Its not the fat, its the sugar its loaded with. There are better alternatives to milk while bulking or cutting. A lot of people like to bulk clean, obviously if you arent then milk doesnt matter so much. Protein powder plus milk is way to many calories (for cutting). A large portion of people in this country are fat because they intake way to many calories and sugars through liquids. Like i said, if you are really trying to do it the most efficient way, then milk is not the answer. Sure you can drink milk and get the same results, but you will have to work harder. Sugar = insulin = body preparing to store fat.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: ctark
Its not the fat, its the sugar its loaded with. There are better alternatives to milk while bulking or cutting. A lot of people like to bulk clean, obviously if you arent then milk doesnt matter so much. Protein powder plus milk is way to many calories (for cutting). A large portion of people in this country are fat because they intake way to many calories and sugars through liquids. Like i said, if you are really trying to do it the most efficient way, then milk is not the answer. Sure you can drink milk and get the same results, but you will have to work harder. Sugar = insulin = body preparing to store fat.

Wrong.

Whole milk has a glycemic index of 27.

You = don't know what you're talking about => STFU.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: ctark
Its not the fat, its the sugar its loaded with. There are better alternatives to milk while bulking or cutting. A lot of people like to bulk clean, obviously if you arent then milk doesnt matter so much. Protein powder plus milk is way to many calories (for cutting). A large portion of people in this country are fat because they intake way to many calories and sugars through liquids. Like i said, if you are really trying to do it the most efficient way, then milk is not the answer. Sure you can drink milk and get the same results, but you will have to work harder. Sugar = insulin = body preparing to store fat.

In a situation where calories are controlled having milk isn't going to make it any harder to reach your goals and as I said earlier it has an effect on fat oxidation.

So, again... you're wrong.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: Kaido
This should put an end to any milk-related arguments.

I like the complete lack of bias on that page, would read again!


I don't see a problem if you're using skim milk. The fat in whole or even 2% is entirely avoidable and there's no real reason to use it. 1% seems a good compromise if you're too prissy / finicky to use skim and like it.

I've never come across a protein powder that didn't taste like undrinkable ass when mixed with water. Skim ftw.

You body needs fat (including saturated fat) to produce testosterone.

A proper diet will include plenty of that in meat whether bulking or cutting.

 

[ctark]

Milk causes cancer.

 

[skywhr]

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I have the Vanilla Ice Cream flavor and it tastes like balls. So I mix it with coffee and splenda.

agreed

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I have the Vanilla Ice Cream flavor and it tastes like balls. So I mix it with coffee and splenda.

And how do YOU know what balls tastes like?

I personally take the on whey chocolate flavored shake and it tastes terrific, unlike Spams which taste like balls

 

[spamsk8r]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I have the Vanilla Ice Cream flavor and it tastes like balls. So I mix it with coffee and splenda.

And how do YOU know what balls tastes like?

I personally take the on whey chocolate flavored shake and it tastes terrific, unlike Spams which taste like balls

I can imagine, can't I?

I've never really found a *good* tasting whey powder. For me, there's pretty much terrible tasting ones, and ones that won't make you puke, but aren't particularly appetizing.