Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: eits
try chiropractic... you'd have a badass practice being an md/dc.
you can treat people and fix the problem causing the symptoms rather than covering the symptoms only with drugs or surgery... and you can prescribe antibiotics and other necessary medicines if you need to without referring out.
so the real MD is the quack and the chiro is the healer? Wow...
Chiropractic has its uses eits. As a fellow visitor to chiropractic (when in MA I get adjusted about twice a month), I can say it definitely helped me, but I wouldn't say it "fixed all of my problems".
My Aeron > my chiropractor.
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it sounds like you're in a situation that you choose to be in. no one can help you until you help yourself out of it.
Originally posted by: RossGr
acutally DOES something the bill with double or triple.
poor people have few options, it really seems that Medical and Dental professions do not appreciate or understand the plight of the underpaid masses who struggle to make ends meet every week of their life. I really do not know (nor do you) the circumstances of the lady you were trying to care for. I do know that when I was in that position we went no where and did nothing.
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: RossGr
acutally DOES something the bill with double or triple.
poor people have few options, it really seems that Medical and Dental professions do not appreciate or understand the plight of the underpaid masses who struggle to make ends meet every week of their life. I really do not know (nor do you) the circumstances of the lady you were trying to care for. I do know that when I was in that position we went no where and did nothing.
The underpaid masses taking cruises and vacations to Vegas?
Take a look at the parking lot of my hospital, the patients lot has more BMWs and Escalades then the physicians lot.
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: RossGr
acutally DOES something the bill with double or triple.
poor people have few options, it really seems that Medical and Dental professions do not appreciate or understand the plight of the underpaid masses who struggle to make ends meet every week of their life. I really do not know (nor do you) the circumstances of the lady you were trying to care for. I do know that when I was in that position we went no where and did nothing.
The underpaid masses taking cruises and vacations to Vegas?
Take a look at the parking lot of my hospital, the patients lot has more BMWs and Escalades then the physicians lot.
Probably because there are 10 times more patients than physicians?
I'm not trying to claim it's the norm, but I think there are a lot of people out there who could afford health insurance, but choose not to pay for it. A couple friends go to school full time, work part time, and can still afford coverage. The plans are pretty basic, of course, but it's better than nothing. It's all about priorities, unfortunately some people would rather spend money on gadgets and other luxuries than basic health insurance.Originally posted by: RossGr
The reason someone does not have insurance is becauee they have either no job or a crappy one. It follows that since you have no job you have no money for "extras" Like a visit to the Emergency room. When someone who has no money left at the end of the month gets a bill for $500 to $1000 after sitting for 2 hr in the waiting room, then seeing a nurse for a couple of minutes followed (another hour wait) for a few precious minutes with a Dr. who does little or nothing of course you do not send a thank you note or money you do not have.
Sorry those are simple facts of life, as you discovered it pretty much works that way, why are you surprised?
Oh yeah, if a Dr acutally DOES something the bill with double or triple.
poor people have few options, it really seems that Medical and Dental professions do not appreciate or understand the plight of the underpaid masses who struggle to make ends meet every week of their life. I really do not know (nor do you) the circumstances of the lady you were trying to care for. I do know that when I was in that position we went no where and did nothing.
Originally posted by: colossus
So I haven't posted in AT OT in almost 5 years (I used to post essays here on all kinds of stuff), but this really got under my skin.
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: colossus
So I haven't posted in AT OT in almost 5 years (I used to post essays here on all kinds of stuff), but this really got under my skin.
This is the best part of this post! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
So you only returned to the unholy fold after 5 years to grace us with your pain at the nations spiraling healthcare fiasco?
I am on a volunteer fire department making EMS calls for FREE....other shit that has nothing to do with being a doctor
Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: colossus
So I haven't posted in AT OT in almost 5 years (I used to post essays here on all kinds of stuff), but this really got under my skin.
This is the best part of this post! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
So you only returned to the unholy fold after 5 years to grace us with your pain at the nations spiraling healthcare fiasco?
I am on a volunteer fire department making EMS calls for FREE....other shit that has nothing to do with being a doctor
the key word in this post. He does not volunteer, you did not fork over 100's of thousdand$ in school. He deserves money and isn't getting jack, simple as that.
Originally posted by: fisheerman
This is the exact way to fix the uninsured issue. Give people/companies huge tax deductions for sponsoring events such as this as well as incentives for doctors/nurses to volunteer and you would probably be able to provide, at least the basics to the majority of uninsured americans.
government run health care isn't the answer.
-fish
Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: Stiganator
Originally posted by: fisheerman
This is the exact way to fix the uninsured issue. Give people/companies huge tax deductions for sponsoring events such as this as well as incentives for doctors/nurses to volunteer and you would probably be able to provide, at least the basics to the majority of uninsured americans.
government run health care isn't the answer.
-fish
Setting up mobile triage is not the answer IMO. I think availability of free BASIC healthcare is a good idea. If you want some optional surgery then go to a private clinic.
Additionally, the medical system could allow more doctors into the market. I know plenty of capable and deserving students who have been denied medical school admission while dbags with rich dads who are doctors have gotten in. Let the market decide how many doctors we need. More doctors -->cheaper medical school --> cheaper healthcare.
--> Lower doctor wages --> Lower quality of service
In countries with universal healthcare, they are booked quite frequently. You could also look at it as a stepping stone. New MDs can work in the universal healthcare centers to get experience and then start their own practices if they are skilled or specialized enough.