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bunnyfubbles

Lifer
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With early indications suggesting Ivy is going to be a relative overclocking dud without beastly cooling, I ultimately might be better off going X79 with a 3930K.

Ideally I'd want to hit 5.5GHz on Ivy, and would really like to be able hit at least 5.2GHz for it to be worthwhile over my current 2600K, but that doesn't seem like it will be possible

At any rate I still have some testing I can do to see whether or not I'll even benefit from the extra cores, I most likely can, but if that turns out not to be the case, then that makes the upgrade path easy as it would basically boil it down to just a 3770K or possibly no upgrade at all
 

Remobz

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I have a Dual Core e6800 so I will be getting either a i5 2500k or 3770k. Depends on the price because either one would be a significant upgrade for me.
 

Ventanni

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Core2 Duo 6750 here, so the IB 3570K looks like a solid choice for me. I'd love to wait for Haswell, but I don't think I can hold on any longer considering my SB laptop is faster than my desktop now (is that sad or what?).
 

hyrule4927

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Feb 9, 2012
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No idea right now. Battling between my budget and my desire to pump up my F@H points per day, because that's just about the only place the i3 is really pissing me off.

Current possibilities:

1. I'll get really impatient and decide I don't hate my mobo as much as I think I do, and pick up an i7-870.
2. I'll get impatient and sick of my mobo and go for a 2500K.
3. If I manage to wait it out, I'll be hoping for a deal on a 2600K 6 months or so down the line.
4. I'll hang on tight for a year, save up, and spring for a Haswell i7 (the best long term plan, but rather difficult at the moment).
 
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Smartazz

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Dec 29, 2005
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Currently have a 4.5GHz 2500K. My motherboard is going to be compatible with Ivy Bridge, but it'll have to be a beastly overclocker for me to upgrade before Haswell.
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
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As far as I can tell, Ivy Bridge makes no sense as an upgrade from a 2500k.

I'm waiting for my 2500k to be bottlenecked in games. I will run it at 5ghz if I have to.
 

Tsaar

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If the IB overclocked heat trend continues with retail I will purchase a SB 2600k. Still using a q6600 now...
 

rgallant

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Apr 14, 2007
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3770k unless it's a dud for overclocking.

passed on sb why:
-didn't like the high volts on the luck of the draw non golden sb cpu's.
-didn't like to see high end gpu's at x8 or having a nv NF200 chip on the mb.- nv gpu's ok , nv mb chips = bad.
-pci-e 2.0 when 3.0 cards were due 4Q 2011[didn't happen ] but seemed like sb's were retro tech. at that point.
- sb-e \x79 were now in the news and coming , and turned out to be oc duds [sub sb] now ib is around the corner. -won't be waiting for haswell

so with the ivyb 3770k\z77 :
-first pci-e 3.0 completely rated cpu\mb\bios package, won't help my 580's but they will be replaced at some point.
-will get a z77 with a plx 8747 chip.-why ? it's new ,no one has one yet, will it matter? don't care .Must see gpu's @ x16+x16[ some people pick mobo's by the color of the heat sinks. like what really matters lol]
-5+ghz 7\24 with safe-ish volts , heat doesn't matter.
-should be the fastest cpu\mb vs sb.\z68
-low cost up grade [$700 ish]
-new tech in the box ,it been 2.5 yrs.[cpu\mb]
-z77 mobo's seem more refined for oc over the z68 ,more options\voltage control.
-finally getting over the wasted trannies of the igpu on the chip I'll never use.

if it is a real dud , I might revisit the 3820\x79 option.but being E1 stepping ivyb's should be good to go.
 

Nemesis 1

Lifer
Dec 30, 2006
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I'm going to get the 3770k but not because of performance needs over my 2600k; rather, because I'm really curious to play around with an IC that has new 22nm 3D xtors under the hood.

Same here and the fact I have to know befor I sell them to others.
 

iCyborg

Golden Member
Aug 8, 2008
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I have OC-ed i7 920 and will probably skip Haswell as well, unless it brings 6 cores to mainstream or something.
 

OVerLoRDI

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Jan 22, 2006
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keeping my SB. A better upgrade for me would likely be a better motherboard with more robust power circuitry.

Haswell will likely be my upgrade from SB.
 

BenchPress

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Nov 8, 2011
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I have OC-ed i7 920 and will probably skip Haswell as well, unless it brings 6 cores to mainstream or something.
You don't need more cores. You need wider SIMD. Haswell's AVX2 allows to vectorize many code loops and run them up to eight times faster than scalar code!
 

amenx

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Dec 17, 2004
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Have a Lynnfield 760 and will not bother to go IB. I prefer looking to future Intel upgrades via their tick-tock strategy. Will only upgrade with tocks (new arches) where the biggest performance improvements usually are. Was initially thinking of IB then said fuck it, one more year and Haswell will be out. And never felt I was lacking in performance with my 760 @ 4ghz, so that sealed it.
 

iCyborg

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Aug 8, 2008
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You don't need more cores. You need wider SIMD. Haswell's AVX2 allows to vectorize many code loops and run them up to eight times faster than scalar code!
No, I need moar corez!!
Well I'm assuming that in 1-2 years more software will be using all cores it can see.
I'm not expecting too much with these instruction extensions, they are mostly limited to specific situations. AVX helps SB a lot in a few cases, but hardly a game changer compared to predecessor. I could be wrong, but I'm skeptical that AVX2 will bring much more.
 

iCyborg

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Aug 8, 2008
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It won't, unfortunately. Neither will Broadwell, which is slated for 2014.
Are there any details like that about Broadwell? Source?
Maybe Piledriver or whatever comes next from AMD could push Intel to offer hex-core at <$350 in the next year or two...
 

Dufus

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Sep 20, 2010
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AVX2 should bring some great changes, the catch is it will probably take years for general software to implement it.
 

psolord

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Sep 16, 2009
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Will be moving from a 2.5 years old i7 860 to a 3770k.

According to hardware.fr, the i7 2600k is already 29% faster than my 860. The 3770k should be another 10% faster on top of that, so I am looking at a healthy 42% performance increase over my previous cpu.

Now if you factor in a tiny bit of OC on the new cpu, just so it reaches a 95W TDP of the 860, which is perfectly acceptable, we could be talking for more than 50% performance, without increasing the number of cores, which is great for my needs.

The only thing that has me really worried though, is those infernal findings from the Tweaktown's preview of the ES Ivys. Since I use my PC at stock at 95% of the time, a bad OC would not be an absolute deal breaker, but still, those few times I OC are like distilled sweetness man. A bad OC on the Ivy will just take a large chunk of the sweetness out of the whole experience with it.
 

Gryz

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Aug 28, 2010
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I've had my E8500 for 4 years and 2 months now.

I decided to skip Sandy Bridge. Last year I bought a gtx580, but returned it because I thought it was too loud at idle. I then decided to wait with upgrading until Kepler and Ivy Bridge. My E8500 + gtx260 were doing fine in most game I played. I probably made a mistake there, but when Bulldozer, Ivy Bridge and both 600 and 7000 series were delayed, all I could do was wait more.

However, my E8500 is still doing great today. I bought a gtx680 this week. When playing Skryim I noticed that both my CPU and GPU are busy at 100% load ! That means (as far as I can see) that my GPU is not bottlenecked by my CPU yet ! I assume that if I disable eyecandy, then the CPU will hold the GPU back. But with high-res textures, 8xMSAA + 4x Transparency SSAA, quality SSAO, etc, the GPU has so much work to do, the E8500 is still fast enough to keep the gtx680 100% busy. Unbelievable.

Still gonna get me a 3570K the day it is released, of course.
 

Nemesis 1

Lifer
Dec 30, 2006
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The only thing that has me really worried though, is those infernal findings from the Tweaktown's preview of the ES Ivys. Since I use my PC at stock at 95% of the time, a bad OC would not be an absolute deal breaker, but still, those few times I OC are like distilled sweetness man. A bad OC on the Ivy will just take a large chunk of the sweetness out of the whole experience with it.


I wouldn't let an es chips results bother me. Its funny with llano anyone who got their hands on one really discarded the cpu performance and went to gpu performance and O/Cs .
With IVB we already know the performance will be better depending on app. 5%-25% better / But none who have O/Ced IVY have tried O/Cing the iGPU. Odd that!
 
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