I think the issue is more about production, unless that falls under the heading of "the grid". California is into renewables, that's a good thing, but renewables are intermittent, we need storage.
I think the issue is more about production, unless that falls under the heading of "the grid". California is into renewables, that's a good thing, but renewables are intermittent, we need storage.I haven't actually measured my AC current draw, but it is on a 60-amp circuit. In August it'll easily run over 6 hours a day.
Obviously the grid will have to be improved to accommodate EV demand, especially for large Level 3 demand, but I think it's a bad faith argument when no one says anything about the grid when people are adding central air or building a new neighborhood. Capacity will grow with demand, just like it has for the last 120 years.
The cyber truck seems riddles with lies. Sorry, I meant marketing speak
100% when I buy my next car it will be a hybrid and most likely a Toyota.
It's hardly a disaster - it is really just dependent on your personal driving needs, your parking situation, and your general access to vehicles.Me too but just getting a pure EV is a disaster in the northern climate.. have to be realistic.. need a car not a brick. Hybrid is the best way to go like you said!
Norway makes it work.Me too but just getting a pure EV is a disaster in the northern climate.. have to be realistic.. need a car not a brick.
People have way too much EV range anxiety. If you only have 1 car, sure it may not work for you. But for like...95% of trips, it's more than enough.Norway makes it work.
It does help that most Norwegians have garages to charge and heat their EVs in.
People have way too much EV range anxiety. If you only have 1 car, sure it may not work for you. But for like...95% of trips, it's more than enough.
More than range anxiety is the battery replacement anxiety for used buyers.
Batteries are warranted for 8 years. Some manufacturer's warranties on combustion engines only last 3.More than range anxiety is the battery replacement anxiety for used buyers.
No one talks about the local grid when installing AC or an electric oven, why the concern over it for an EV? My AC uses far more electric than my Bolt and at a higher current draw.
Batteries are warranted for 8 years. Some manufacturer's warranties on combustion engines only last 3.
And of course, any combustion engines well be a gamble on the used market too. I would argue moreso - way more moving parts
Yeah, it'll be like any other time they add demand to the grid. It'll happen gradually enough the grid will be able to keep up (assuming NIMBYs don't stop the upgrades).I'm sure they'll be able to upgrade the grid as needed, such as local subdivisions specifically that might be at capacity and tackle them all one by one. The grid as a whole is probably fine it's just that some parts may not be. Not a huge deal.
My only concern is if they do this quickly they will end up jacking up our bills to compensate for it as they will want to pass on the costs to the consumer. Chances are that will mean increasing the delivery charge and the usage rates on top of it.
8 years is not a very long time for something that costs so much though. If buying used that warranty will no longer apply. Ice cars don't cost 10's of thousands to repair, so while it is a gamble it's not as big of a gamble as an EV where you can end up with a 30k+ battery replacement cost, since nobody wants to work on them at a cell level. The cells themselves rarely fail but anything inside can, such as a seal or whatever. with a gas engine they'll fix the engine instead of replacing it.
If buying used it would not be within that period though unless the car is less than 8 years old when bought. Or does it reset when there is a new owner?
16k is a lot of money to be throwing at a car repair. That's more than I've ever paid for a car entirely. I tend to buy in the 10 year old range. Anything newer is still very expensive. The cost to maintain such a car is in the orders of a few thousand a year... including gas and oil changes.
any new car should require essentially 0 extra maintenance. modern manufacturing quality is leagues ahead of what car manufacturing used to be.If buying used it would not be within that period though unless the car is less than 8 years old when bought. Or does it reset when there is a new owner?
16k is a lot of money to be throwing at a car repair. That's more than I've ever paid for a car entirely. I tend to buy in the 10 year old range. Anything newer is still very expensive. The cost to maintain such a car is in the orders of a few thousand a year... including gas and oil changes.
gas and oil changes will exist whether you buy a used or new combustion vehicle. but they will be non-existient for EVs.
EV battery warranties are in general transferable to a new owner if the battery is still within the warranty period.
FYI - This is the cost to replace a battery in a M3 LR, around $16.5k. Not sure how somebody came up with a $30k+ battery replacement. $16.5k is still expensive but it isn't $30K+ expensive.
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The only solution will be if EV batteries become easily interchangeable by the owners themselves and it's as easy as replacing ICE car batteries x5. (basically like changing RAM)
That'll sell!
If buying used it would not be within that period though unless the car is less than 8 years old when bought. Or does it reset when there is a new owner?
16k is a lot of money to be throwing at a car repair. That's more than I've ever paid for a car entirely. I tend to buy in the 10 year old range. Anything newer is still very expensive. The cost to maintain such a car is in the orders of a few thousand a year... including gas and oil changes.
This is most likely coming, but I understand being nervous about it until it does come.That is still very minimal compared to the upfront cost of an EV, and potentially having to change the battery at some point when warranty is out. With a gas car I will never have to worry about any repair ending up costing 16k or more. And that's on the low end, I have seen some invoices that are much higher.
If they can drop the prices, and make the battery packs repairable at a more reasonable price then it might make more sense.
Why does it need to be easier to swap than a transmission or engine? Great if it was, but why hold EV to some standard that no ICE could meet?I think we have to be honest with ourselves..
EV's will be very successful with first time buyers who can get the most out of their purchase and especially with people who don't like to maintain their vehicles!
But just like German/ European cars which do amazingly well for 100k miles and then start breaking all the time and cost more in repairs than the actual cost of the purchase.. EV's will likely head in that direction.
The only solution will be if EV batteries become easily interchangeable by the owners themselves and it's as easy as replacing ICE car batteries x5. (basically like changing RAM)
That'll sell!