Something happened between my thoughts and what got typed. The sense I intended is that every person born is born fresh and without distortion and where that condition is preserved, will see what I said they will see, that no system of conditioning lasts forever because it goes against human nature.Please.
American citizens, even the yoots, by large believe whatever their already chosen media outlet tells them to believe. Even the educated are swayed by a large part.
What matters is if some key media outlets change their tones based on Obama's words, or, did Obama come out with those statements for other reasons.
It's nice you have your strong opinion. But it is wrong for you to (A) believe you speak for other people, and (B) assume your opinions are fact.
Besides, in the grand scheme of morality in the Middle East, while Israel isn't high up in morality, they sure are a helluva lot higher up than most everyone surrounding them. We cannot exactly look to, say, the Saudi's as role models of civilization. So, who do you suggest the U.S. ally with in that region? We want their oil, we want access to their shipping lanes, we have to deal with them. Who do we embrace, oh self-proclaimed most enlightened forum member?
Watch those goalposts whizz by.
Watch the shill avoid answering a direct question.
Watch the sheeple continue to hate Israel for no other reason than their messiah told them to.
Watch the shill avoid answering a direct question.
Watch the sheeple continue to hate Israel for no other reason than their messiah told them to.
It doesn't matter what Obama says, Israel will continue to lose favor. Every young person will see afresh and without distortion that Israel won't make peace because they want the Palestinian's land and it doesn't belong to them. People have an inborn sense of justice and nobody can do a thing about that. The hatred and fear of the other is rotting Israel from within. So very sad....
People seem to forget History and read what they are being spoon fed.
Americans & the World.
Both the Israelis and Palestinians under 50 have no real concept as to what happened in the first 30 years.
What brought the existing situation to the '67 boundaries; how Gaza was created; how the West Bank is isolated.
It is a mine field; and great care needs to be done to extract both groups from it without creating more sympathetic detonations.
With radicals on both sides deliberately setting of a mine; trust becomes difficult in reading the map that the other has provided.
What you are saying, I think, is that the problem with an eye for an eye is that the eye we are avenging today was first lost somewhere back in the Pleistocene.People seem to forget History and read what they are being spoon fed.
Americans & the World.
Both the Israelis and Palestinians under 50 have no real concept as to what happened in the first 30 years.
What brought the existing situation to the '67 boundaries; how Gaza was created; how the West Bank is isolated.
It is a mine field; and great care needs to be done to extract both groups from it without creating more sympathetic detonations.
With radicals on both sides deliberately setting of a mine; trust becomes difficult in reading the map that the other has provided.
Read this map & explain how it supports the idea that Israel has ever sought peace with the Palestinians-
And also in reverse; when did the Arabs and then the Palestinians every truly (outside lip service) desire peace with Israel?
Arab nation states attempted to destroy Israel for the first 25 years.
When they stopped; the Palestinians then stepped up with Arab sponsorship.
Hamas and Hezbollah still have it to eliminate Israel.
The PA has been shown to be weak and unable to control Hamas.
the '48 lines could have existed
the '67 lines could have existed
After that multiple chances were provided to the PLO/PA/Palestinians
Camp David, Oslo
Each time; they asked for 100% or nothing;
And they got nothing.
Only when both sides feel that they MUST agree and work together; regardless of outside influences, that something will be accomplished.
On both sides; when a leader has made a step forward; others become determined to destroy that person.
Watch the shill avoid answering a direct question.
Watch the sheeple continue to hate Israel for no other reason than their messiah told them to.
Israel is the brightest spot in the middle east right now. As much as I disagree with a lot of their actions, we can't afford to lose them. They're an ally, but in terms of acting like an Ally I'd put them well below the UK, among other nations.
How thoughtful of you to provide this nice example of how you project. You did it consciously, I assume. I certainly hope so because if not, well, never mind about that..... It would certainly imply that you are too far gone to see it anyway. And that would really be sad.
AsI recall, Jesus was the king of the Jews and came to teach then they could not enter the kingdom by obedience to law alone. He came to save them, not teach others to hate me them. What story did you hear?
Well, good to know it's the other guy. I can't wait to move into your house and negotiate a bedroom there rather than having you throw me out because I have a bigger gun. You must be all confused about whose eye got poked by whom.
If Israel is not interested; then they will ignore the Palestinians
If the Palestinians are not interested; they will make unreasonable demands on Israel.
The Palestinians have previously rejected obtaining 98% of the land mass that they demanded.
The Israelis have demanded that they control all of Jerusalem and the Palestinians are not to have the right of return.
The loss of land and economic output is being seen as a way to drive the Palestinians into agreement where the land issues can then be resolved.
Just like Hamas; the refusal to settle the issues becomes costly for the Palestinians and ends up not fulfilling their wishlist/demands.
The Palestinians want the land but do not want to ensure the security the Israel demands.
Based on previous Palestinian actions; Israel has a right to be concerned.
Not talking years back; but just months back.
Why not? We really only need the Middle East for oil and Israel has none. I can see tons of benefits flowing to Israel through our relationship with them but I don't see any flowing back to America (a parasitic rather than symbiotic relationship). Could you articulate some of the benefits America gains through it's relationship with Israel?
Just like the rest of the new age; ignoring why I had to move into your living room and why I have the need to feel secure.You moved into my living room uninvited and now want to negotiate your rights to security there? Isn't that called chutzpah?
How sad, to judge the value of others by what they can do for you.
And also in reverse; when did the Arabs and then the Palestinians every truly (outside lip service) desire peace with Israel?
Arab nation states attempted to destroy Israel for the first 25 years.
When they stopped; the Palestinians then stepped up with Arab sponsorship.
Hamas and Hezbollah still have it to eliminate Israel.
The PA has been shown to be weak and unable to control Hamas.
the '48 lines could have existed
the '67 lines could have existed
After that multiple chances were provided to the PLO/PA/Palestinians
Camp David, Oslo
Each time; they asked for 100% or nothing;
And they got nothing.
Only when both sides feel that they MUST agree and work together; regardless of outside influences, that something will be accomplished.
On both sides; when a leader has made a step forward; others become determined to destroy that person.
This reminds me of Hitler and just before WW2.
People don't realize that factions in the middle east will not, under any circumstances, accept the existence of Israel in any state or form. These groups will be satisfied with nothing less than the total and utter destruction of the country and the land back under non-Jewish rule.
Their attempts for peace are simply ploys at "crying wolf". Their pleas that they can play nicely if given their "Palestinian state" are complete garbage. Ethnic groups in the region still can't get along; not to mention as soon as the common enemy is removed things will devolve even more.
None of that changes the fact that our Israeli friends have not dealt honestly with America.
Actions speak louder than words. Their actions are inconsistent with claims of peace seeking.
Please address that directly & in a straight forward fashion.
Israel has been a proving ground for real life use of US weapons/technology.
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Watch the sheeple continue to hate Israel for no other reason than their messiah told them to.