Explain how the ongoing taking of Palestinian land is necessary for self preservation. Explain how a viable Palestinian state can exist w/o the return of most or all of it.
Their actions are one of self preservation. The US also has not been honest with Israel
Care to show me on a map the land that is Palestinian?Explain how the ongoing taking of Palestinian land is necessary for self preservation. Explain how a viable Palestinian state can exist w/o the return of most or all of it.
As opposed to the religious right loving Israel because their messiah told them to?
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/End-Times/On-The-Road-To-Armageddon.aspx
Only 54% of Americans say Israel is Ally, down from 68% in 2014 and 74% in 2012
Care to show me on a map the land that is Palestinian?
And now, we get the deliberately obtuse. Maps were previously provided.
Great job not answering a simple question.
Your ignorance is showing.
We help and defend Israel to prevent another mass slaughtering of their people.
The Holocaust, war started by Muslims in every decade since, attacks on civilians, mortar and rocket attacks aimed at non military targets...
We defend them because it is the right thing to do.
I dont think thats the real reason. We do it for a couple of reasons...
1. defense dollars spending is nice for those who get to taste it.
2. The religious right literally thinks if the jews are in Israel the second coming of christ will happen and the end of days will be upon us.
3. Many americans have dual citizenship and are mandated to join the Israel army.
It is a complicated issue for sure. I dont care if the Palestinians ever get a state again. Life isnt fair and if your culture is weak then you die. I just dont want to be funding their death is all. Let the Israelis do their murder on their own.
That's like saying we should have stayed out of Europe in WW2 because you didn't want to fund the murder of Germans.
The world is an ugly place. Sometimes we do things that we don't want to do because they are the right things to do. Principle before policy.
Where is ur straw man gif? I need it.
See post #57 of this thread.
Genesis 12:3 (About Israel) " I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
As a Christian it's pretty straightforward that we should aid Israel in all things right. We've been a very blessed nation haven't we ? Who has been Israel's biggest Ally ? I pray that never changes.
Why not? We really only need the Middle East for oil and Israel has none. I can see tons of benefits flowing to Israel through our relationship with them but I don't see any flowing back to America (a parasitic rather than symbiotic relationship). Could you articulate some of the benefits America gains through it's relationship with Israel?
The primary benefit is a military ally (which they are, despite the occasional incident) and a sponge for all the terrorists that might otherwise be coming over here. They also don't provide free food, lodging and training for terrorists like the rest of the middle east does (either by intent or incompetence).
And what caused the Palestinians to lose their land?
Hint: they tried to eliminate Israel and got their ass kicked.
The primary benefit is a military ally (which they are, despite the occasional incident) and a sponge for all the terrorists that might otherwise be coming over here. They also don't provide free food, lodging and training for terrorists like the rest of the middle east does (either by intent or incompetence).
Pure fearmongering. The reason that terrorists *might* be coming over here is primarily our unconditional support for Israel, making your so-called "reasoning" entirely circular.
So if we just cut all ties with Israel the suicidal religious fanatics will just forgive us for 60 years of history? Lol yeah, because al-qaeda, Hamas, ISIS, Houthis and company are just such live-and-let-live organizations... They'd rightfully call it a defeat and recruitment would skyrocket. We'd also lose any real ability to keep Israel even partially in line diplomatically, they might just nuke Iran one day if they feel they're in a corner.
By contrast, what exactly would be the advantage of abandoning Israel? Improving our already good relationship with Europe? Perhaps marginally improving relations with Iran? Or the most important of all: letting self-righteous left-leaning Americans jerk off all over their moral high ground and the faces of supposedly saved Palestinian children.
Yeah, not seeing the cost-benefit analysis working in the US's favor here if we abandon Israel.
Well that is the purpose of a government's foreign policy.... to further the interest's of its citizens. It sure beats the alternative which would be to undermine the interest's of its own citizens. Not exactly sure where you are going with this...
They've been lying to us all along. Bibi's admission & that realization will obviously affect public opinion in this country, rightfully so. They intend no peace.
Care to show me on a map the land that is Palestinian?
Your ignorance is showing.
We help and defend Israel to prevent another mass slaughtering of their people.
The Holocaust, war started by Muslims in every decade since, attacks on civilians, mortar and rocket attacks aimed at non military targets...
We defend them because it is the right thing to do.