E. coli and other bacterias are only on the surfaces of the meat. Cooking a steak rare still kills the bacteria on the external of the steak whereas grinding meat allows for the bacteria to become ubiquitous within the meat.
E. coli and other bacterias are only on the surfaces of the meat. Cooking a steak rare still kills the bacteria on the external of the steak whereas grinding meat allows for the bacteria to become ubiquitous within the meat.Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: mwmorph
People eat rare steaks all the time without falling over dead.
There's a huge difference between a steak and ground up meat. That's why most places will only cook hamburger medium well or well done.
Although I wonder why? If you ground up the same meat, it suddenly 'creates' ecoli? Or is it due to sanitary reasons for ground meat? If so, why is ground meat dirtier than regular meat?
And how does being dirty = e coli?
So many questions!
It all depends on the causative agent and amount ingested. Some agents can result in immediate (<15 minute) reactions while others can take days before any symptoms occur.Originally posted by: KeithTalent
If you do not feel sick yet, then you are probably fine. Every experience I have had with food poisoning, the sickness has started within a few hours of ingestion.
KT
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
the only reason I am worried is because I remember watching some show where a kid accidently ate some raw ground beef and almost died. Considereing mcdonald's reputation regarding the quality of the food, I am a little worried.
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
this is the last time I'll ever ask for advice here. I am being serious...if you think I am blowing it out of proportion and it is something I should not be worried about, then let me know.
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Bleach and chlorine gas is a great disinfectant, chug/inhale some and then try swallowing a UV light just to be safe.
this is the last time I'll ever ask for advice here. I am being serious...if you think I am blowing it out of proportion and it is something I should not be worried about, then let me know.
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Just because you ate a raw bit of meat doesn't mean you're going to get sick. It just increases the odds. (and tastes gross)
that's what I am hoping for. the only reason I am worried is because I remember watching some show where a kid accidently ate some raw ground beef and almost died. Considereing mcdonald's reputation regarding the quality of the food, I am a little worried.
At worst, it's a 1% chance you'll get anything. You're worrying over nothing.
The biggest thing you have to look out for are parasites and in this FDA approved US, with the quality of food we have, there's no reason to worry. Just because you think Mcdonalds is Mcdonalds doesn't mean the beef isn't somehow clean and FDA inspected/approved.
People eat rare steaks all the time without falling over dead.
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
very rarely do you get sick that fast (undercooked chicken will do it. but how you can eat it considering the texture is way diffrent)
usually the quick ones are around 48 hour mark. most take a little longer
also: sueing is a waste of time. unless you still have the hamburger. there are to many ways you could get food poisening to be able to prove it was the resturant.
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
very rarely do you get sick that fast (undercooked chicken will do it. but how you can eat it considering the texture is way diffrent)
usually the quick ones are around 48 hour mark. most take a little longer
also: sueing is a waste of time. unless you still have the hamburger. there are to many ways you could get food poisening to be able to prove it was the resturant.
I think it was bad chicken, not undercooked. Tasted fine, but was served marsala which probably covered up any foul thing I might have otherwise tasted. The fking restaurnt closed the next day. I think I got the last chicken they had sitting in their back room. Bastards.
Food poisoning is a broad term, there are a lot of different nasties that make you sick. Depending on the source, it can be from a few hours to many days or even weeks.Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
very rarely do you get sick that fast (undercooked chicken will do it. but how you can eat it considering the texture is way diffrent)
usually the quick ones are around 48 hour mark. most take a little longer
also: sueing is a waste of time. unless you still have the hamburger. there are to many ways you could get food poisening to be able to prove it was the resturant.
I think it was bad chicken, not undercooked. Tasted fine, but was served marsala which probably covered up any foul thing I might have otherwise tasted. The fking restaurnt closed the next day. I think I got the last chicken they had sitting in their back room. Bastards.
It was still way too soon for that to have been what made you sick.
People often get a stomach virus days earlier, and when they start showing symptoms they blame the very last thing they ate.
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Just because you ate a raw bit of meat doesn't mean you're going to get sick. It just increases the odds. (and tastes gross)
that's what I am hoping for. the only reason I am worried is because I remember watching some show where a kid accidently ate some raw ground beef and almost died. Considereing mcdonald's reputation regarding the quality of the food, I am a little worried.
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
very rarely do you get sick that fast (undercooked chicken will do it. but how you can eat it considering the texture is way diffrent)
usually the quick ones are around 48 hour mark. most take a little longer
also: sueing is a waste of time. unless you still have the hamburger. there are to many ways you could get food poisening to be able to prove it was the resturant.
I think it was bad chicken, not undercooked. Tasted fine, but was served marsala which probably covered up any foul thing I might have otherwise tasted. The fking restaurnt closed the next day. I think I got the last chicken they had sitting in their back room. Bastards.
It was still way too soon for that to have been what made you sick.
People often get a stomach virus days earlier, and when they start showing symptoms they blame the very last thing they ate.
My stomach ballooned into a rock hard bubble a couple hours after the chicken. I threw it up and felt incredibly better, no problems the next day. The restaurant closing too much of a coincidence too.
Wiki: If symptoms occur within 1?6 hours after eating the food, it suggests that it is caused by a bacterial toxin or a chemical rather than live bacteria.
Do I Have Food Poisoning?
If a person has food poisoning, he or she might:
have an upset stomach (called nausea, say: naw-zee-uh)
have stomach cramps
have diarrhea (say: dy-uh-ree-uh), which may contain blood
have a fever
Sometimes feeling sick from food poisoning shows up within hours of eating the bad food. At other times, someone may not feel sick until several days later.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Darthvoy
Well I survived, but not before going through one hell of a morning. I actually vomitted and dropped what I am sure sounded like hiroshima and nagasaki all over again at the same time. Good thing the sink is next to the toilet, otherwise there would have been one heck of a mess; the likes of which could never be truly clean again. I feel fine now, but damn it, I'm never eating at mcdonald's again!
IF you really got sick i twas not from McDonalds. you don't get sick that fast.
I had bad chicken once and a few hours later was vomitting nonstop. How long does it take to get sick from bad food?
very rarely do you get sick that fast (undercooked chicken will do it. but how you can eat it considering the texture is way diffrent)
usually the quick ones are around 48 hour mark. most take a little longer
also: sueing is a waste of time. unless you still have the hamburger. there are to many ways you could get food poisening to be able to prove it was the resturant.
I think it was bad chicken, not undercooked. Tasted fine, but was served marsala which probably covered up any foul thing I might have otherwise tasted. The fking restaurnt closed the next day. I think I got the last chicken they had sitting in their back room. Bastards.
It was still way too soon for that to have been what made you sick.
People often get a stomach virus days earlier, and when they start showing symptoms they blame the very last thing they ate.
My stomach ballooned into a rock hard bubble a couple hours after the chicken. I threw it up and felt incredibly better, no problems the next day. The restaurant closing too much of a coincidence too.
Wiki: If symptoms occur within 1?6 hours after eating the food, it suggests that it is caused by a bacterial toxin or a chemical rather than live bacteria.
Do I Have Food Poisoning?
If a person has food poisoning, he or she might:
have an upset stomach (called nausea, say: naw-zee-uh)
have stomach cramps
have diarrhea (say: dy-uh-ree-uh), which may contain blood
have a fever
Sometimes feeling sick from food poisoning shows up within hours of eating the bad food. At other times, someone may not feel sick until several days later.
You said the food tasted fine. Do you realize that for bacterial toxins or chemicals to be strong enough to make you sick the food would have tasted very bad?
I understand you're trying to justify your opinion that it was the chicken that made you sick, but you have to understand that it is very unlikely that was the culprit.