OOOOMMMMGG I JUST GOT ROBBED!!!

[trexpesto]

There is a near 100% get-what-they-deserve rate for guys like that, just not always soon enuf. As far as keeping guns handy around the house, you'd feel alot worse if your baby bro shot your sister accidentally. Nice try of your dad to try and give him the car.

 

[SinNisTeR]

Originally posted by: rh71
Los Angeles ? You need to move to the burbs after this to feel safe again. I'd say this to NYCers too...

I don't think this is the kind of exciting city life they were looking for... then again, I'm not even sure this actually happened in the city of LA.

Anyway, about racism / happening with blacks... what I do understand is that they tend to do this as a result of not having much for themselves (same reason for drug dealing). But why is that ? Why are there less occurences of crime (i don't have statistics) with other ethnicities ? I see many other minorities as hard workers even if they didn't have much... why aren't they [seen as] hard workers ?

i live in granada hills. really safe neighborhood... we are as sub-urban as it gets! any more north and you leave LA county... we are really far from downtown. like 35 miles away! stuff like this happens everywhere. the robbers come up to the sub-urbs to 'steal from the "rich" and give to the "poor".'

 

[Noirish]

good thing you had some money at home.
who knows what he would do if you had nothing.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: SinNisTeR
i live in granada hills. really safe neighborhood... we are as sub-urban as it gets! any more north and you leave LA county... we are really far from downtown. like 35 miles away! stuff like this happens everywhere. the robbers come up to the sub-urbs to 'steal from the "rich" and give to the "poor".'

I really think it's more like "steal from the rich, keep for themselves, and take advantage of the innocent"

edit:
As far as the black criminal debate goes....
My brother and his friends (4 people total) were held-up in their car in a parking-lot in Detroit many years ago. Yes, it was a black dude (a couple of them actually). They were held-up and asked for money. Between everyone in the car they had maybe ~$3 in coins. The guy on the passenger side slapped the change out of the passenger's hand and shot him in the knee, while the guy on the driver's side kept his gun pressed against my brother's head. Then they took off. Needless to say my brother hauled a$$ to the nearest hospital they could find, where they were told to take a seat and wait by all the other non-urgent gun-shot victims. Later, the police told them it was most likely a gang-initiation kind of thing since it hadn't gone any further and no one was seriously hurt (being shot in the knee must be a common thing).

Anyway, my brother was absolutely paranoid of young black men for awhile after that. But he never blamed black people as a whole. It's just that the experience made/makes him edgey around them.....understandably so.

I don't think that anyone is asserting that black people or any minorities are predestined to be criminals, but minorities do dominate urban ghettos....where most of this type of crime happens. It's the poverty, up-bringing, and poor peer-community that makes people into criminals (I feel). Take a piece of sh!tty white trash from Chippewa Falls, WI, for example (underage pregnancy capital of the US when I went to school near there), and you'll find that they're lazy, abusive, drunk child-abandoning losers....just like the rest of their friends.

 

[SinNisTeR]

holy crap, shot in the knee. i hate the way the world is becoming. and its not getting better.

 

[Nick5324]

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: DougK62
I bet the robber was holding the pistol sideways like the rappers.

Your going to take some crap for that one.

I guess i'll be slinging the crap today.

You bet he was holding it sideways... why, because he was black and must listen to rap? Therefore rap is "black" music? I'm about as white as they come, and i've listened to rap for about 8 years. I know lots of people that are white that listen to rap. It's not the only kind of music i listen to, but it is in frequent rotation. This doesn't mean i want to be black, or "act black", or "dress black".

There are a lot of stories in this thread about crimes committed by black people. While i don't doubt any of these stories, i worry that people will read these and will begin to fear any black people on the street. There are lots of bad people, of all races. There are also lots of good people, of all races. From the sound of some of these replies, some of you will encounter black people that could become important people in your life, but you fear them and will avoid any involvement with them. Just b/c they are a different race, don't assume they are a bad person.

Before i throw on my flamesuit, i do realize that just b/c you posted a story in here about black crime doesn't mean you are racist or that what i said applies to you. I just get an overall sense in this thread that the OP's story was an open door to some to makes claims that blacks are likely to be criminals. For every story about black crime in this thread, i bet there is an AT member that could tell a story about white crime, asian crime, etc. *Steps off soapbox*

I feel bad for the OP and hope they catch the person responsible. Glad to hear no one was hurt.

 

[skyking]

Edit:
I am very glad your dad and family kept your cool and are all here to tell the story. Your dad deserves an award for his actions, protecting his family.
about the dogs;
I've had Dobermans, Rottwielers, mixed shepherd/dobermans, and various other mutts. I've trained dogs for protection in a formal training environment, bite on command, etc.
Breed really does not matter, except when the insurance comapany wants to jack up your rates or deny you homeowners, for having a "dangerous dog". The rotties, shepherds, retrievers and such all shed, and are a pain in the arse that way.
My recommendation for a great guard dog for the family is a Standard bred Poodle. No kidding.
They hardly lose a hair, are very intelligent and trainable. Look at the circus dogs in the first part of the century, mostly poodles. At 60 pounds or so, I would not mess with one with a smart, nasty gleam in his eye and a growl in his throat.

 

[fenrir]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

I don't think that anyone is asserting that black people or any minorities are predestined to be criminals, but minorities do dominate urban ghettos....where most of this type of crime happens. It's the poverty, up-bringing, and poor peer-community that makes people into criminals (I feel). Take a piece of sh!tty white trash from Chippewa Falls, WI, for example (underage pregnancy capital of the US when I went to school near there), and you'll find that they're lazy, abusive, drunk child-abandoning losers....just like the rest of their friends.

Sounds like you have some issues with people in Chippewa Falls.

I live in Eau Claire and it is at least an extremely safe area. I would say that I would put the alcoholic part first, which leads to lazy, and the rest just follows in tow. Why do you think the area has so many bars? Although, I think we have slipped to number 3 in the 'bars per capita' ranking. I think you would find it very difficult to find people in the area who are likely to take a gun and rob someone, even with the way they grew up.

Matt

 

[exdeath]

I put in another recomendation for the H&K USP .40 with hydrashoks.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: cw42
gl catching the bastard. glad everyone was ok in the end.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: notfred
Black people are going to make me racist against them. My car was stolen by a black man. I was attacked by four black men outside my apartment. Sh!t like this happens to people on here...

Fvck, I know it's not politically correct, but hell, I'm not building a very good track record here. I had no experience at all with black people before I moved to Sacramento. There just weren't any black people where I grew up, but now... sh!t.

You aren't experiencing anything unique. Lower social classes and minorities commit more crime per capita. The question is why.

What about Asians, Jews, and Cubans?

 

[tooltime]

i hope he dosn't walk in a few days...that would scare me

 

[slpaulson]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence or lawlessness, but love and wisdom and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of injustice towards those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or they be black...

We've had difficult times in the past. We will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; it is not the end of disorder.

But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings who abide in our land. Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and to make gentle the life of this world.

I find it so frustrating, and so sad, that so many of today's youth have squandered the opportunities presented them by Dr. King and the Civil Rights movement. There is a strong sub-culture in the black community that adheres to a victim mentality, and another subculture which lives in a gangsta-rap type mental state. Men and organizations like the NAACP and Al Sharpton do nothing but retard the progression of the democratic ideal, and the gangster rap subculture destroys the hopes, attitudes, and minds of millions of young people, of all races.

Unfortunately there is nothing I can do as a white man to directly combat either subculture, other than by applauding such men as Aaron McGruder and Bill Cosby for having the courage to voice their well-thought out and intelligent observations. I do my best to treat each person I meet with courtesy and respect, regardless of their race, and to respond professionally and skillfully when I must with regards to my job.

I wrote almost the exact same thing for a college essay. Unfortunately my crazy professor is fan of the "blaming the victim" mentality. According to her, it's obviously the white man's fault, and we need to pay all black people reparations. She also started crying during class because her brothers are in jail due to the police department's love of arresting the Mexicans.

That was the worst class I've ever taken.

 

[slpaulson]

oops

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: cw42
gl catching the bastard. glad everyone was ok in the end.

seriously, hopefully that money wasn't a big hit for your family, glad to hear everyones okay.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Wow...glad everyone's ok.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: onza

Originally posted by: notfred

Originally posted by: onza

Originally posted by: Munchies
Kepp a loaded 45 in the parnts bd from now on. I want one for under my bed. Nuke that asswpiepiceoftrash. SAu he had my sister at gunpoint by the head, no one will care then. NUKE HIM IF HE COMES BACK

yikes

those are some strong words, get a security system

just having the ADT sign alone will make him scared

Yeah, they're strong words, but when your house gets robbed, you'll know that if you had the chance (and it didn't risk your family's life) you'd turn that human peice of sh!t into a red spot on the wall.

i probably would not. not a fan of killing ppl. i'll let the cops do that.

See if you feel the same way when you're outside your apartment and a group of men walks up to you and starts beating you and sends you to the hospital. Or you wake up one morning and your car is just gone, or you come home from a movie and all your expensive electronic equipment has vanished through a broken window.

I'm not a fan of killing people either, but certain situations make you feel differently about certain people.

yes, when it happens to you or someone you know, then you can speak from experience. My cousin incidentally was stabbed for his bicycle in the northridge area. When I was told, I was infuriated. Fortunately, he ended up being ok.

It made me think about the situation and if someone attacked me with a knife, they better hope I go down because if I get the upper hand, I will have no problems killing that person with his own knife and walking away. I won't even hang around to wait for police clean up because the principle of facing scrutiny for an attack on my life is ridiculous.

 

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: notfred
Black people are going to make me racist against them. My car was stolen by a black man. I was attacked by four black men outside my apartment. Sh!t like this happens to people on here...

Fvck, I know it's not politically correct, but hell, I'm not building a very good track record here. I had no experience at all with black people before I moved to Sacramento. There just weren't any black people where I grew up, but now... sh!t.

I am sorry that you think that way becuase you know it couldnt be there upbringing or anything. :roll:
BTW what happened with your car? How did you know it was a black guy didnt it just disapear overnight?

-Xionide

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Xionide

Originally posted by: notfred
Black people are going to make me racist against them. My car was stolen by a black man. I was attacked by four black men outside my apartment. Sh!t like this happens to people on here...

Fvck, I know it's not politically correct, but hell, I'm not building a very good track record here. I had no experience at all with black people before I moved to Sacramento. There just weren't any black people where I grew up, but now... sh!t.

I am sorry that you think that way becuase you know it couldnt be there upbringing or anything. :roll:
BTW what happened with your car? How did you know it was a black guy didnt it just disapear overnight?

-Xionide

That is the difference between a human and an animal. A human can take responsibility for his or her actions and strive to improve themselves beyond their beginnings. An animal cannot.

 

[nan0bug]

Buy a gun. Better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: nan0bug
Buy a gun. Better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it.

Guns are a no no in Kalifornia.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: nan0bug
Buy a gun. Better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it.

Guns are a no no in Kalifornia.

Shotguns are a no-no?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: nan0bug
Buy a gun. Better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it.

Guns are a no no in Kalifornia.

I have about 25 of em... including a pre86 full auto AK... no one told me about it.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: nan0bug

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: nan0bug
Buy a gun. Better to have one and not need it than need it and not have it.

Guns are a no no in Kalifornia.

Shotguns are a no-no?

I'm not too well versed in their gun laws. I know they require licensing for some guns, and several types of assault weapons are illegal to possess there. Semi-automatic shotguns could be on that list.

 

[vood0g]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
If you're nervous of two thug-looking black guys, and not two thug-looking white guys, you're making both a racial judgement and a logical mistake.

ok, so i will be making a racial judgement, but i dont think i will be making a logical mistake. my family owns convenient stores and we've been robbed at gun point twice. both times by a black man. most shoplifting that occurs in the shop are done by black kids (not to say are only done by black kids, but most). so i am not allowed to make a judgement based upon my past experience and be more cautious around black people? simple logic, based upon my previous experience, will tell me to be more cautious and nervous around black people than white people.

using that same logic, here is another example. i go to a university where there are alot of foreign students. i noticed that most of the time when the latino students see each other they would kiss each other on the cheek. so am i wrong to assume that the race as a whole likes to kiss each other on the cheek as a form of hello?

basically what i am just pointing out is that most of the people here are not racist when they say they are more cautious or nervous around black people.