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fskimospy

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I know you called me nuts in the migrants thread over me saying New York could be flipping but it seems as a New Yorker you're seeing the same thing I am in your own family and friends and neighbors and people you talk to on the street (street stall guy, shopkeeper you buy stuff from, etc).

I was just a lot more vocal outright about it that these are worrying signs.. New York flipped for Reagan before and that's what worries me.. the conditions could be right for the unthinkable to happen.. as much as I don't want it to! Heck Zeldin almost won here..

It's just apathy towards Biden!
If you think New York may flip then you should think Kansas is even more likely to flip. Do you think that’s the case?
 

trenchfoot

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And they get shot in the line of duty as well, so it is a pretty dangerous job I would not want to do, but they have to do it and they feel leftwing politicians are in the way of it with the regulations.


Those cops that feel that way should find other jobs that are more appropriate for the attitudes they have, like being mercenaries, or private security escorts, just anything than serving the public where they feel like they're not being paid enough to put their lives on the line, or where their racism prevents them from protecting all of the people on their beats, etc.
 

Indus

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If you think New York may flip then you should think Kansas is even more likely to flip. Do you think that’s the case?

Well as I mentioned before.. New Yorkers clearly didn't want a major progressive city and over the last 4 years I've seen a massive shift in immigrant communities turning away from dems to GOP.

Like almost all candidates on the GOP candidate list are immigrant asians/ blacks/ latinos.. because their shops are getting victimized by the no cash bail and criminals just mugging their shops at will and police not being able to do anything.

This isn't some Fox News propaganda.. it's observing and talking to people. So yes I do think New York can flip to Trump especially as he's a former New Yorker and a businessman like them.. as retarded that reasoning is.. would honestly set us back decades.

I'm reminded of Ana Kasparian venting on TYT in 2016 when she tried to remind everyone not to ask for the moon.. Obama's America is the best we've ever had and withholding votes from Hillary would only set us back.. but maybe that's what we need to see how terrible things can get.

Hopefully people get their heads out of their asses but I have my doubts!
 

fskimospy

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Well as I mentioned before.. New Yorkers clearly didn't want a major progressive city and over the last 4 years I've seen a massive shift in immigrant communities turning away from dems to GOP.

Like almost all candidates on the GOP candidate list are immigrant asians/ blacks/ latinos.. because their shops are getting victimized by the no cash bail and criminals just mugging their shops at will and police not being able to do anything.

This isn't some Fox News propaganda.. it's observing and talking to people. So yes I do think New York can flip to Trump especially as he's a former New Yorker and a businessman like them.. as retarded that reasoning is.. would honestly set us back decades.

I'm reminded of Ana Kasparian venting on TYT in 2016 when she tried to remind everyone not to ask for the moon.. Obama's America is the best we've ever had and withholding votes from Hillary would only set us back.. but maybe that's what we need to see how terrible things can get.

Hopefully people get their heads out of their asses but I have my doubts!
I have lived in New York for the entire time you mention and you are insane. New York is blowout victories for democrats time and again.

Dont take my word for it, just look at the results.
 

GettyRoad

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Those cops that feel that way should find other jobs that are more appropriate for the attitudes they have, like being mercenaries, or private security escorts, just anything than serving the public where they feel like they're not being paid enough to put their lives on the line, or where their racism prevents them from protecting all of the people on their beats, etc.
True, but a lot of those nutjobs are in the police job for a paycheck and to please their parents, whom some of them were cops too. It runs in their families.
 

zinfamous

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That’s not a policy nor has it been a focus for democrats.

What you are describing is right wing propaganda and it clearly works as you have been led to believe it’s a policy issue democrats are pushing. Or you are still just a troll.

Getty hasn't been lead to believe anything. He's a Russian troll doing his job, posting from his folder to inject:

--racial animus
--pro-trump arguments
--"disillusioned liberal" persona

all over the internet. He's long ago outed himself. He's never lived in the US. Not once.
 

fskimospy

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This reminds me of @GettyRoad where he thought Staten Island would swing an election even though if literally 100% of the borough had voted for democrats and then switched to vote Republican they still would have lost.

Do you guys spend any time looking up basic math here?
 
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Indus

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I have lived in New York for the entire time you mention and you are insane. New York is blowout victories for democrats time and again.

Dont take my word for it, just look at the results.

Bud that's what happens with off year elections. The numbers would be way different in a Presidential year election.. and I guess dems did it smartly.. no one really pays attention to the mayoral election but Adams has been so fucking bad.. he might be voted out by a shit ton.

It's hard to find anyone who likes Adams except his own demographic!
 

fskimospy

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Getty hasn't been lead to believe anything. He's a Russian troll doing his job, posting from his folder to inject:

--racial animus
--pro-trump arguments
--"disillusioned liberal" persona

all over the internet. He's long ago outed himself. He's never lived in the US. Not once.
You mean we don’t have a foreign minister?

Yes though you are right. He constantly talks about race, even in cases where it’s baffling, and he does the long and tired ‘I used to be a liberal’ thing.

Also he reminds me of @Young Grasshopper where if you ask him about any of these things he ignores them.
 

fskimospy

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Bud that's what happens with off year elections. The numbers would be way different in a Presidential year election.. and I guess dems did it smartly.. no one really pays attention to the mayoral election but Adams has been so fucking bad.. he might be voted out by a shit ton.

It's hard to find anyone who likes Adams except his own demographic!
Adams might be voted out (god, I hope so) but he will be voted out for another Democrat.

If you think Republicans are going to win New York in a presidential election you are delusional. Again - do you think Democrats will win Kansas? By the numbers that’s more likely.
 
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MrSquished

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I know you called me nuts in the migrants thread over me saying New York could be flipping but it seems as a New Yorker you're seeing the same thing I am in your own family and friends and neighbors and people you talk to on the street (street stall guy, shopkeeper you buy stuff from, etc).

I was just a lot more vocal outright about it that these are worrying signs.. New York flipped for Reagan before and that's what worries me.. the conditions could be right for the unthinkable to happen.. as much as I don't want it to! Heck Zeldin almost won here..

It's just apathy towards Biden!
Well that's because thinking NY could flip is indeed insane 😁😇
 

Indus

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Adams might be voted out (god, I hope so) but he will be voted out for another Democrat.

If you think Republicans are going to win New York in a presidential election you are delusional. Again - do you think Democrats will win Kansas? By the numbers that’s more likely.

Well that's because thinking NY could flip is indeed insane 😁😇

I sure hope we kick Adams out.

He's doing a bad enough job that yeah he's the main reason I think Republicans can win.

Totally incompetent corrupt fool!
 

fskimospy

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I sure hope we kick Adams out.

He's doing a bad enough job that yeah he's the main reason I think Republicans can win.

Totally incompetent corrupt fool!
Adams is garbage but if he loses it will be in the primary, not the general.
 
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GettyRoad

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Bud that's what happens with off year elections. The numbers would be way different in a Presidential year election.. and I guess dems did it smartly.. no one really pays attention to the mayoral election but Adams has been so fucking bad.. he might be voted out by a shit ton.

It's hard to find anyone who likes Adams except his own demographic!
Trump is planning to hold an campaign rally in the South Bronx at Yankee Stadium in the spring when the weather is warm (March/April/May/June)....

He thinks he can make inroads with Black and Latino men to make NY competitive. Despite the fact Trump was racial during the Central Park 5 event and other racial events in the 80s in NYC.

The New York Yankees ownership are MAGA (Hal Steinbrenner, Randy Levine, Brian Cashman), so it's not surprising they would lend YS to Trump for a day, probably when the team is off-day or on the road.

The NY Knicks ownership is also MAGA, James Dolan is a MAGAT, and there are talks that Trump would have a rally at Madison Square Garden.....that would be worse than the aborted Chicago rally in 2016 that turned violent.
 

GettyRoad

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Getty hasn't been lead to believe anything. He's a Russian troll doing his job, posting from his folder to inject:

--racial animus
--pro-trump arguments
--"disillusioned liberal" persona

all over the internet. He's long ago outed himself. He's never lived in the US. Not once.
I'm not a Trump supporter, but I live around a lot of them. Race is important to America, because race is what this country was built on.
 

dank69

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You don't know people. Young people need to be inspired. I know people in my family, lifelong, and friends of 5 to 30 years, who are all Democrats to progressives, they are all not happy about Biden. Intelligent and successful people, 90% have a college degree and many have post-graduate degrees. Have you ever heard of 'shoring up the base'? This is reflected in polls among Democrats? And you think they are not safe to walk among us? This is a chunk of the base brother. You would be silly to ignore them and label them as loons.
I do know people. I know young people who need to be inspired. In this political climate, they are lunatics. I'll label them how I see fit. I don't care about persuading people to stop being lunatics. If people want to let democracy die for some nonexistent ideal, choo choo motherfuckers, I'll see you on the other side.
 

fskimospy

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Trump is planning to hold an campaign rally in the South Bronx at Yankee Stadium in the spring when the weather is warm (March/April/May/June)....

He thinks he can make inroads with Black and Latino men to make NY competitive. Despite the fact Trump was racial during the Central Park 5 event and other racial events in the 80s in NYC.

The New York Yankees ownership are MAGA (Hal Steinbrenner, Randy Levine, Brian Cashman), so it's not surprising they would lend YS to Trump for a day, probably when the team is off-day or on the road.

The NY Knicks ownership is also MAGA, James Dolan is a MAGAT, and there are talks that Trump would have a rally at Madison Square Garden.....that would be worse than the aborted Chicago rally in 2016 that turned violent.
Honestly you are either a foreign agent or extremely stupid.

How about this. I will give you 10,000-1 odds that the Democratic nominee wins New York.
 

GettyRoad

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Honestly you are either a foreign agent or extremely stupid.

How about this. I will give you 10,000-1 odds that the Democratic nominee wins New York.
Dems will win NY, but Trump will do better there than he did in '16 and '20. That's my point. He'll do better in NJ too, but he's not winning those states.
 

fskimospy

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Dems will win NY, but Trump will do better there than he did in '16 and '20. That's my point. He'll do better in NJ too, but he's not winning those states.
You literally made a thread about what northeast states republicans might win. It’s not going to happen.

There is a realignment happening though, I agree. It’s why democrats won in Georgia. The conservative message is so toxic that it’s moving swing states blue.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy long ago
Then why bother even talking about the candidate's performance? Democrats should abandon that platform entirely and just talk about how he's a hot great grampa or some shit. Rail on Trump's orange-ness, talk shit about how his kids look like moronic monkeys or something.
 

dank69

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Then why bother even talking about the candidate's performance? Democrats should abandon that platform entirely and just talk about how he's a hot great grampa or some shit. Rail on Trump's orange-ness, talk shit about how his kids look like moronic monkeys or something.
Get Biden in a speedo and put him on a pole for halftime. Maybe have him pose on the hood of his corvette while we're at it.
 

HomerJS

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I think its wrong, but a lot of white Americans don't have a problem with it, hence why police reform is DOA.

If Biden wins again, they should drop the "George Floyd" name from the act, because Floyd was not someone to emulate.

Another reason why Trump is competitive.
Why don’t white Americans have a problem with it? Because black people get the short end.

Good news after George Floyd a lot of white people got woke to this shit. I live in a town that is mostly white and they had BLM rallies. I have white friends who said to me “I get it now”. They became woke.

The real definition of woke not the bastardized conservative version.
 
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