Oops! Biden's turn in the Classified Documents barrel.

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Pohemi

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What a ridiculous nothingburger. Imagine being actually stupid enough (or dishonest enough) to believe it's improper for a SITTING President to be in possession of classified documents.
Their 'gotchya' that they're going to cling to is that they were from his term(s) as VP, and that he couldn't possibly have declassified them himself. It's laughable of course; it doesn't mean there was some improper actions that took place. They'll find out when they investigate if it was otherwise.
 

zinfamous

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cool, i thought personal attacks were strictly forbidden but for some reason, you still get away with it. why would the be? also if you have an issue with my very factual signature. please tell me what it is.

Fucking Quisling.
 
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K1052

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After 8 years in office I'm not shocked that he ended up intermingling some stuff. This likely has happened to past presidents but it's flown under the radar. It doesn't look intentional and his own lawyers are the ones finding them, reporting them to the gov, and returning them without requiring an FBI raid to get them back after having lied about possessing them.

The situations are not equivalent.
 

Pens1566

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More found at his home in Wilmington. This is absolutely going to whatabout/both-sides the Mar A Lago case.
 

K1052

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Now is a good time to remind people that Trump said he didn't have them, had his lawyers lie to the DOJ, ignored a subpoena, got his house raided because said documents were being shifted about per witnesses, lied that he declassified them, claimed he owned the documents, and then finally accused everybody else of being hypocrites who these exact things intentionally.
 

fskimospy

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Now is a good time to remind people that Trump said he didn't have them, had his lawyers lie to the DOJ, ignored a subpoena, got his house raided because said documents were being shifted about per witnesses, lied that he declassified them, claimed he owned the documents, and then finally accused everybody else of being hypocrites who these exact things intentionally.
The idea that someone else improperly storing classified documents is going to get Trump off the criminal hook for deliberately defying a subpoena and lying to the government about it is some sort of weird learned helplessness by people on the left and desperate wishcasting by people on the right.

The special counsel will not care what other people did and he's the only person making charging decisions here.
 

K1052

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The idea that someone else improperly storing classified documents is going to get Trump off the criminal hook for deliberately defying a subpoena and lying to the government about it is some sort of weird learned helplessness by people on the left and desperate wishcasting by people on the right.

The special counsel will not care what other people did and he's the only person making charging decisions here.

I do have to admit that Trump has done a pretty amazing job of establishing his willful intent to do the things he did.
 

fskimospy

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I do have to admit that Trump has done a pretty amazing job of establishing his willful intent to do the things he did.
Yes, an inability to establish willful intent is usually hard in these cases, which is a big reason why many are not prosecuted. In this case the suspect has publicly bragged about his explicit intent to keep classified documents for his own purposes even after the government demanded them back.
 
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MrSquished

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I already heard conservatives on a conference call today say how people saying the Biden thing is different from Trump is such bullshit

These people don't exist in reality
 
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fskimospy

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I already heard conservatives on a conference call today say how people saying the Biden thing is different from Trump is such bullshit

These people don't exist in reality
I think part of it is that they are lying and they know it, but just don’t care.

I think a lot of it is desperate wishcasting though. They really reaaaaaly don’t want Trump to be indicted and they are searching for any lifeline.
 
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echo4747

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How did these classified documents get into the Penn Biden Center? Biden left office in 2017? The Penn Biden Center opened in Feb 2018
 

Pens1566

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How did these classified documents get into the Penn Biden Center? Biden left office in 2017? The Penn Biden Center opened in Feb 2018

Likely intermediate storage. Same thing is probably happening with the Obama library. Tons of documents in storage waiting for it to complete.
 

Pohemi

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They really reaaaaaly don’t want Trump to be indicted and they are searching for any lifeline.
And just in case he DOES get indicted and/or convicted, they want to make SURE that Biden is punished just as bad or worse. That's what the braying and trumpeting right now is all about.
 

cytg111

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What a gigantic fuckup. The fact its not the same as what Trump did lessens not the magnitude of the up fuckery in play here, what the actual fuuuck. The problem in the public ear is what Trump said when he called it a witch hunt… He said that EVERYBODY took documents, why are they just focusing on him. Well I dont know about everybody but we have an idea about Biden now. Why would he, his team, allow this to happen.
 

senseamp

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Republicans are going to yell and scream regardless of what Biden does. They got nothing else to offer except distractions, because trickle down isn't selling and neither is their abortion nonsense. Just ignore the noise and you'll be fine.
 
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@imported_tajmahal why is it so hard to answer a simple question? (I know why, lol)
I answered it asshole. "No idea", but all cases should be treated the same. So if Hillary is not charged for her egregious abuse of classified material and Biden isn't charged with keeping classified material in his fucking garage. No one should be charged. If President Trump has a special prosecutor assigned for his possession of classified material, Biden and Hillary should also have a special prosecutor assigned. There should not be a law only enforced against Republicans that isn't also enforced against Democrats, even with this highly partisan Justice Department.
 
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HomerJS

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I answered it asshole. "No idea", but all cases should be treated the same. So if Hillary is not charged for her egregious abuse of classified material and Biden isn't charged with keeping classified material in his fucking garage. No one should be charged. If President Trump has a special prosecutor assigned for his possession of classified material, Biden and Hillary should also have a special prosecutor assigned. There should not be a law only enforced against Republicans that isn't also enforced against Democrats, even with this highly partisan Justice Department.
When you understand "willful intent" you will know why both cases should NOT be treated the same.

If you want neither charged for possession, we still have Trump being charged for obstruction of justice.
 
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When you understand "willful intent" you will know why both cases should NOT be treated the same.

If you want neither charged for possession, we still have Trump being charged for obstruction of justice.
"willful intent" my ass, he broke the law. End of story.
 
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fskimospy

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I answered it asshole. "No idea", but all cases should be treated the same. So if Hillary is not charged for her egregious abuse of classified material and Biden isn't charged with keeping classified material in his fucking garage. No one should be charged. If President Trump has a special prosecutor assigned for his possession of classified material, Biden and Hillary should also have a special prosecutor assigned. There should not be a law only enforced against Republicans that isn't also enforced against Democrats, even with this highly partisan Justice Department.
Okay, so again you are arguing for the removal of all intent requirements from the law. If that's the case then lots and lots of Republicans are going to prison.
 
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Republicans are going to yell and scream regardless of what Biden does. They got nothing else to offer except distractions, because trickle down isn't selling and neither is their abortion nonsense. Just ignore the noise and you'll be fine.
"Just ignore a Democrats violation of the law, you'll be fine" Right?
 
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