Oops! Biden's turn in the Classified Documents barrel.

[fskimospy]

FTFY

Great. I’ve already supplied the text of the law and I can clearly describe how Trump broke it. If you would like to do the same for Biden I’m super interested to see you do it.

You won’t because you can’t and you’re not very bright, but I welcome your efforts to prove me wrong.

 

[fskimospy]

have you ever worked with or even touched any piece of classified documents?

Yes. I spent seven years in the navy working in a top secret environment.

Any other questions?

 

[fskimospy]

So I assume the genius @Luna1968 will be here any minute to tell me how control of classified information works.

lol. Of course they won’t. What they will do, if anything, would be to tell me why they know better.

 

[HomerJS]

So I assume the genius @Luna1968 will be here any minute to tell me how control of classified information works.

lol. Of course they won’t. What they will do, if anything, would be to tell me why they know better.

I'll make it easy on him. Just explain "willful intent" since that what the law says.

 

[fskimospy]

I'll make it easy on him. Just explain "willful intent" since that what the law says.

I hate to break it to you but they don’t give a shit about that.

 

[Viper GTS]

Anyone else think that tracking documents shouldn’t be the responsibility of the president?

It doesn’t surprise me at all that ex presidents have detritus from their time in office, and IMO the fact that they have classified material after leaving office falls more on other people than on them - They have better things to do.

Now what happens when it’s found or asked for us a whole different story, if Trump had handled his situation the way Biden appears to be handling his so far this would be a very boring thread.

Viper GTS

 

[eelw]

News saying these were briefing documents to help prepare for meetings. And the documents are actually in the national archives. So these are copies. Not originals found in Mar A Lago

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Wonder if this is what the AG needs to drop his case against Trump.

For the sake of being cynical, I'm presuming the Dems do not want to put Trump behind bars and are making yet another fatal error expecting a free trump to damage the GOP rather than the US as a whole.

 

[Pens1566]

I will say this ... The loosey-goosey way in which classified documents "appear" to be handled is quite troubling. Either they are treating classified documents quite cavalierly, or boring everyday dispatches are marked ‘classified’ willy-nilly. Maybe a bit of column A, a bit of column B. There should definitely be a procedure, a log, "something" that lists who has what so that it can be returned to the proper place. I can see how easy it was for Trump to pilfer boxes of CD.

What if I told you it was both of those things combined?

There is entirely too much information that is classified. You can have 10 pieces of information/documents that are unclassified on their own, but put them in the same place and it's now all classified by aggregation. This has been the case for as long as I've been around it. Just oodles of anything that is remotely "interesting" gets marked out of an abundance of caution.

And, at upper executive levels or where your entire office or workspace is technically a SCIF, shit does get left around or treated as the rest of your work product. The former more so because at those levels who is gonna say anything or challenge an SES or DD?

Now at the grunt level where an SSO is reporting security violations or your just a worker bee that no one cares about? Yeah, it's way more cautious because your job and livelihood can be gone for one (maybe two if you're lucky) slips.

 

[woolfe9998]

I'm not concerned about Biden being prosecuted for this. It was clearly inadvertant. I'm more concerned about the political implications of Trump being prosecuted but not Biden. This makes it politically more difficult to go after Trump.

 

[brandonbull]

What a ridiculous nothingburger. Imagine being actually stupid enough (or dishonest enough) to believe it's improper for a SITTING President to be in possession of classified documents.

Seriously WTF

Did I miss something? Somehow classified documents that Biden had access to were removed 6 years

Special counsel appointed to investigate the Biden documents. Good.

I’m sure the Snowflake Committee in the House will continue to whine about this.

Let's talk about each special counsel. This is a joke trying to compare Trump and Biden's handling of classified documents. It started when Biden removed Trump's executive privilege which cleared the way for this to become a criminal case which it wasn't before. Biden has no defense on the removal, retention, and hiding documents for 6 years in various unsecured locations. Trump can declassify any document at anytime and can retain documents from his administration. Trump had the documents secured in a manner approved by the archives and the FBI and Biden had his readily available for the Chinese.

 

[MrPickins]

Did I miss something? Somehow classified documents that Biden had access to were removed 6 years

Let's talk about each special counsel. This is a joke trying to compare Trump and Biden's handling of classified documents. It started when Biden removed Trump's executive privilege which cleared the way for this to become a criminal case which it wasn't before. Biden has no defense on the removal, retention, and hiding documents for 6 years in various unsecured locations. Trump can declassify any document at anytime and can retain documents from his administration. Trump had the documents secured in a manner approved by the archives and the FBI and Biden had his readily available for the Chinese.

What kind of bizzaro world are you living in here? Is this a joke and I'm missing the heavy sarcasm?

(before anyone responds, yes I know who I'm talking to, and yes, I know he actually believes this nonsense)

 

[Luna1968]

Great. I’ve already supplied the text of the law and I can clearly describe how Trump broke it. If you would like to do the same for Biden I’m super interested to see you do it.

You won’t because you can’t and you’re not very bright, but I welcome your efforts to prove me wrong.

all you got is, and I paraphrase "hey my boy confessed to crimes so it's not a crime." lol bullshit. your boy now has a special council crawling up his shit. Biden committed a felony just admit it. he had those classified docs for 6 fucking years.

 

[Luna1968]

News saying these were briefing documents to help prepare for meetings. And the documents are actually in the national archives. So these are copies. Not originals found in Mar A Lago

news flash, classified copies are STILL CLASSIFIED.

 

[Luna1968]

I'll make it easy on him. Just explain "willful intent" since that what the law says.

oh give me a break. willful intent? you have no clue if Biden had willful intent he kept classified in unsecured locations since he was VP. keep grasping sucker, oh and why do you get away with personal flames? totally against the rules that are on the very top of this forum? do they not apply to you?

"PERSONAL FLAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED."

 

[Vic]

all you got is, and I paraphrase "hey my boy confessed to crimes so it's not a crime." lol bullshit. your boy now has a special council crawling up his shit. Biden committed a felony just admit it. he had those classified docs for 6 fucking years.

You hypocrites spent 4 years telling us that Trump was above the law, tried to overthrow the govt because you lost an election, then you claimed that an ex-President had the power to magically desclassify documents, and now you wanna pull this shit?

Go fuck yourself. It's time that the reasonable majority in this country stop giving any credibility to you whackjob extremists.

 

[cytg111]

oh give me a break. willful intent? you have no clue if Biden had willful intent he kept classified in unsecured locations since he was VP. keep grasping sucker, oh and why do you get away with personal flames? totally against the rules that are on the very top of this forum? do they not apply to you?

"PERSONAL FLAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED."

You suck. Boom. Roasted.

 

[Vic]

oh give me a break. willful intent? you have no clue if Biden had willful intent he kept classified in unsecured locations since he was VP. keep grasping sucker, oh and why do you get away with personal flames? totally against the rules that are on the very top of this forum? do they not apply to you?

"PERSONAL FLAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED."

Why do you hate free speech?

The reason flaming is tolerated here is because the right-wing fought tooth-and-nail for antisocial speech on the internet under the guise of free speech. But I guess that was only supposed to right-wingers and not liberals, right?

 

[Fenixgoon]

oh give me a break. willful intent? you have no clue if Biden had willful intent he kept classified in unsecured locations since he was VP. keep grasping sucker, oh and why do you get away with personal flames? totally against the rules that are on the very top of this forum? do they not apply to you?

"PERSONAL FLAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED."

I too remember how the FBI raided biden's residence. Oh wait, he had the docs returned immediately

 

[PlanetJosh]

The forgetfulness now comes in handy as an excuse. Probably an old one and a repost by now, sorry.

 

[brycejones]

oh give me a break. willful intent? you have no clue if Biden had willful intent he kept classified in unsecured locations since he was VP. keep grasping sucker, oh and why do you get away with personal flames? totally against the rules that are on the very top of this forum? do they not apply to you?

"PERSONAL FLAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED."

Damn you are a whiny snowflake.

 

[fskimospy]

all you got is, and I paraphrase "hey my boy confessed to crimes so it's not a crime." lol bullshit. your boy now has a special council crawling up his shit. Biden committed a felony just admit it. he had those classified docs for 6 fucking years.

This is desperate wishcasting on your part. I’ve linked the relevant statute, if you want to describe how Biden violated it I’m open to hearing it. (You can’t)

What I can do easily though is show how Trump committed all required elements of this crime. That part is easy. Since I assume you share Taj’s passion for justice no matter the party of the person involved you will be happy to see Trump face justice, right?

 

[zinfamous]

No i didn't, he most certainly is in violation of the law. End of fucking story.

no he isn't.

what are you doing here, anyway? You're wasting valuable grenade-lobbing time down at the "disaster!" that is our border. Get to it, fucking quisling simp.

 

[zinfamous]

How would you know? Really how the hell do you know this? Because you want to think it's so? Because you want to believe? So far they've found 3 different caches of classified information that they found on Nov. 2 2022 that they kept from the public until after the election and a couple of months longer. At least one cache was easily accessible by Hunter Biden and who the fuck knows who else?

It seems you've gotten yourself worked up over nothing again. This must be difficult for you. Perhaps joining your comrades in Soledor for a little vacation--Mr Prygozhin and his fellows--will do you some good? I'm sure they'd be happy to take your help.

Be sure to bring your grenades.

 

[zinfamous]

Let's talk about each special counsel. This is a joke trying to compare Trump and Biden's handling of classified documents. It started when Biden removed Trump's executive privilege which cleared the way for this to become a criminal case which it wasn't before. Biden has no defense on the removal, retention, and hiding documents for 6 years in various unsecured locations. Trump can declassify any document at anytime and can retain documents from his administration. Trump had the documents secured in a manner approved by the archives and the FBI and Biden had his readily available for the Chinese.

Honest question: Are you an idiot?