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Lifer
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I will support Biden as long as Biden wants it.

But if Biden steps out, as much as I dislike him, Newsom gets it. He has the organization and the profile to pull it off right now.
Newsom is my governor and I like his job performance thus far (concerned about the impending budget deficit, but they'll figure it out). However, a California Democrat who used to be SF mayor will NOT win a Presidential general election. He just won't. I don't think he'd be the worst candidate out there (hi Kamala), but he's just not a viable candidate in the battleground states.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Yeah, has struck me that the US media and the UK media are both biased, but the bias seems to take very different forms. Not just in terms of partisan political teams supported, but in qualitative terms. Haven't quite got a grip on what the difference is, though.

The US media seems prone to timidity, to a follow-the-pack and don't-rock-the-boat mentality, as well as being extremely shallow, for the most part. It often just seems unbearably _bland_ (Fox excluded, obviously).

But it doesn't blatantly _lie_ and make stuff up nearly as frequently as ours does. It even puts a high value on 'fact-checking', though it seems to have a weird sense-of-priorities as to which facts merit checking.

Ours is mostly just quite open, partisan propaganda, that doesn't even pretend to be anything else, including behaviour that borders on outright criminality at times (e.g. the phone hacking scandal). What depresses me is we are now seeing a multiplicity of TV "news" stations appearing, directly repeating the long-standing extreme, often mad, partisan bias of the print media (Talk TV, GBNews, I lose count).
I’d love to import some Indian reporters to interview American politicians. No nonsense, willing to cut off bullshit answers, and demand answers to the actual questions. American politicians would be crying before the interview was over.
 
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Delicious, it's just as good as it gets to see you ass clowns tap dancing around the fact that Biden is a senile and confused old man who's not capable of doing his job for the American people.
 
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GettyRoad

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I’d love to import some Indian reporters to interview American politicians. No nonsense, willing to cut off bullshit answers, and demand answers to the actual questions. American politicians would be crying before the interview was over.
MSNBC tried that with Mehdi Hasan and he got fired because he was too tough on Israeli politics.
 

GettyRoad

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Newsom can't win.

It has to be someone who can appeal to Blacks and Latinos.

Gavin Newsom has white male privilege written all over his face.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Newsom is my governor and I like his job performance thus far (concerned about the impending budget deficit, but they'll figure it out). However, a California Democrat who used to be SF mayor will NOT win a Presidential general election. He just won't. I don't think he'd be the worst candidate out there (hi Kamala), but he's just not a viable candidate in the battleground states.

-I'm a bit less sunny on Newsom although I think he's got the right mix of greasy and competent to be a functional politician, but yes California is the "North Pole" to something like Florida's "South Pole".

Just mentioning the state immediately gets half the electorate to hate you from the get go.

Its a very cushy Governorship for a Democrat but its also a very polarizing state to try to get into national politics from.
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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Zero point zero percent chance.




Might Biden have trouble remembering dates? Maybe. A lot of people do though so I don't think we should necessarily be treating a report from Hur, who clearly has partisan motivations, to be a reliable analysis of his mental state. Also what the absolute fuck was he doing asking about his dead son? Was it intentional to make him flustered?




We have two old dudes running for office. Get used to it.

This is more than just "two old dudes."

The report basically made it out to seem like they couldn't charge him because he might not be competent to stand trial.

Look, I get mixing up a date by a year or two...but he's talking about 2013 like he's unsure if he was VP or not....IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS 8 YEARS AS VP.

Dude is done.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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This is more than just "two old dudes."

The report basically made it out to seem like they couldn't charge him because he might not be competent to stand trial.

Look, I get mixing up a date by a year or two...but he's talking about 2013 like he's unsure if he was VP or not....IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS 8 YEARS AS VP.

Dude is done.

And it's more likely to make people vote for Trump? He's already at 47%.

Just look at 2022 election, at worst it's a repeat:

Republican Party54,227,992222
Democratic Party51,280,463213
Libertarian Party724,264
 

gothuevos

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Watching the gaffes, the shuffle, it's so painful to watch. Does he even get to November?

And the more angry press conferences he holds, the more unforced errors he'll make. Do you just hide him until November? I think you have to. No wonder he's skipping the Super Bowl interview. It's a no win scenario.

Sleep walking into disaster.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Watching the gaffes, the shuffle, it's so painful to watch. Does he even get to November?

And the more angry press conferences he holds, the more unforced errors he'll make. Do you just hide him until November? I think you have to. No wonder he's skipping the Super Bowl interview. It's a no win scenario.

Sleep walking into disaster.

And that's what they said about Trump in 2016 but people cared more about SCOTUS and gave it to Trump.

Same thing here.. who knows when Thomas croaks.. so take a chill pill and just vote Biden unless you like the conservaterrorist scotus!
 

K1052

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Watching the gaffes, the shuffle, it's so painful to watch. Does he even get to November?

And the more angry press conferences he holds, the more unforced errors he'll make. Do you just hide him until November? I think you have to. No wonder he's skipping the Super Bowl interview. It's a no win scenario.

Sleep walking into disaster.

Please see your doctor for a Xanax prescription as soon as possible. This is no way to live.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Please see your doctor for a Xanax prescription as soon as possible. This is no way to live.

And honestly polls and gaffes don't matter for shit..

In reality it's going to come down to 6 states: PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ and GA. Whoever wins 4 out of those will be potus!

The only thing that can rescue dems and Biden is those who don't want a MAGA dictatorship for whatever reason.. scotus vote, gen z abortion vote and those who can see trump is sabotaging immigration control.
 
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gothuevos

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And honestly polls and gaffes don't matter for shit..

In reality it's going to come down to 6 states: PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ and GA. Whoever wins 4 out of those will be potus!

The only thing that can rescue dems and Biden is those who don't want a MAGA dictatorship for whatever reason.. scotus vote, gen z abortion vote and those who can see trump is sabotaging immigration control.

GA and AZ all but guaranteed to go back red. I think Biden holds WI and PA. He is very unpopular in MI. NV is a toss up? Lean red?
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
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Biden should just claim he took a cognitive test and passed with a perfect score...worked for trump.

Edit: And shame on whoever didn’t review that report.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
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One thing that is very disappointing is that Biden won't do the super bowl interview.

You're letting Republican party and shitty mainstream sensationalist media drive the narrative, This is your chance to reach the biggest TV audience of the year. Why not take it?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Biden should just claim he took a cognitive test and passed with a perfect score...worked for trump.

Edit: And shame on whoever didn’t review that report.

That would be merrick Garland. Honestly I’m almost thankful he didn’t get a seat on the Supreme court. Feckless.
 
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gothuevos

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One thing that is very disappointing is that Biden won't do the super bowl interview.

You're letting Republican party and shitty mainstream sensationalist media drive the narrative, This is your chance to reach the biggest TV audience of the year. Why not take it?

Disagree. The less he's seen, probably the better. Too many unforced errors.
 
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gothuevos

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Are you a secret MAGAT? Good good you are chicken little so bad I suspect you are an Getty’s alt

If I ever start talking about Italian American men swinging the election towards Trump, then sure, you can accuse me of being his alt.
 
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NWRMidnight

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If people actually stopped and observed, they would find that we all do such things, at all ages. There are so many triggers that cause it like stress, lack of sleep, distractions caused by life, our minds are somewhere else so we miss it.. the list goes on. We don't notice it because it's normal everyday life for everyone, so it gets ignored and forgotten almost instataniously. If you don't believe me, step back, and just observe for a week or two. I mean really step back and observe, and not just the people around you, but yourself. You will be suprised on how often you and other's do simular things. Yes, it might happen a little more often as you get older, but it's pretty stupid to be comparing common human traits that we all have and do at all ages. It's called life.
 
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Are you a secret MAGAT? Good good you are chicken little so bad I suspect you are an Getty’s alt

I have a strong hunch he's voted for Turmp at least once already, and plans to again and is looking for all the rationale he can to justify it. I know a few people like him. I don't think he's an alt of that clown. But I am getting strong "walk away" vibes where he's desperately trying to prop up that he was super liberal but he just had to vote against Democrats because of ___. He has that 2015 "obviously Republicans are insane and fucking everything up, but like the Democrats might be just as bad, so I can't vote for them, so I'll have to vote Republican again" energy that was super prevalent on here.
 
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