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dlerious

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Like on every level this guy is knocking it out of the park. Economic, political, foreign policy, you name it. If he's demented then we need more demented presidents.
His approval rating is pretty bad for a guy hitting it out of the park according to 538. Looks like his disapproval rating has been higher since about September 2021.
 
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Indus

Lifer
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His approval rating is pretty bad for a guy hitting it out of the park according to 538. Looks like his disapproval rating has been higher since about September 2021.

It's the perfect storm for a Biden loss.. his coalition is unraveling.

Mooselambs Gaza
Liberals Immigration
Latinos 3/4 of them want tougher immigration but dem latinos want amnesty which is why latinos are shifting right
Gen Z Student loan debt and housing costs
Inflation

It's all bad at once.
 

K1052

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His approval rating is pretty bad for a guy hitting it out of the park according to 538. Looks like his disapproval rating has been higher since about September 2021.

Trump's disapprove is three points higher in the 538 average...

Edit: arg thats old data

If were are going by favorably where metrics are available for both Trump and Biden is about 5 points more favorable than Biden presently.

We're still getting tied head to heads in the national polls on RVs though despite this so approval and favorability metrics appear less informative about the actual decisions the electorate is making so far in this cycle.
 
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fskimospy

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His approval rating is pretty bad for a guy hitting it out of the park according to 538. Looks like his disapproval rating has been higher since about September 2021.
Approval ratings aside he either is doing a good job or he isn’t. I think he is - a better job than any president in my lifetime in fact.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Approval ratings aside he either is doing a good job or he isn’t. I think he is - a better job than any president in my lifetime in fact.
If his policy is so good, why are we treating him as the last person on earth who would uphold those same policies?
We act like there is no Democrat Party without Biden....
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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If his policy is so good, why are we treating him as the last person on earth who would uphold those same policies?
We act like there is no Democrat Party without Biden....

Think it's a bit too late to act like we have a choice.. we're all in on Biden unless he croaks.

Anything else is like a Hildabeast out like a sack of potatoes on 9/11 moment but we stick with the candidate for scotus and everything.

I personally would have liked to see a primary.. I actually liked Gretchen Whitmer but we can't have nice things apparently!
 

dlerious

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Premise: Voters in Dem primaries are interested in alternatives to the incumbent President:

Evidence so far:
View attachment 93662
The only thing I can see from that is total votes are less than half of the 2020 votes. Does that mean over half the voters were unhappy with any of the candidates? There are no debates, so all they can go on are what they see on the news / hear from others. I've heard gossip about Biden becoming the next Feinstein.
 

K1052

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The only thing I can see from that is total votes are less than half of the 2020 votes. Does that mean over half the voters were unhappy with any of the candidates? There are no debates, so all they can go on are what they see on the news / hear from others. I've heard gossip about Biden becoming the next Feinstein.

Biden did 79K votes in NH as a write in. Obama only got 49K votes in 2012 and he was on the ballot.

SC did not have a primary in 2012.
 

fskimospy

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The only thing I can see from that is total votes are less than half of the 2020 votes. Does that mean over half the voters were unhappy with any of the candidates? There are no debates, so all they can go on are what they see on the news / hear from others. I've heard gossip about Biden becoming the next Feinstein.
Thats what happens in a contested vs. uncontested primary. Look at Obama’s totals in 2012 vs. 2008.
 

pmv

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Anyone that doesn't vote forfeits their right to bitch. Don't care if the outcome of your state is predetermined. And for someone that is extremely concerned with the fascists taking over, refusing to vote for Biden is about as stupid as it gets.

I disagree, if (and, to be clear, _only_ if), as the poster claims, they are in a situation where the voting system means their vote has no chance of having any effect. What's the point in voting for Biden if your vote cannot possibly make any difference to the outcome? Could well be more usefully-employed giving encouragement to someone else.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I think Trump has distorted our view of how much we should see a president. Then it doesn't help that he still gets more coverage then Biden.
No. It wasn't trump. I'm surprised you think this is that recent. This tale is as old as time. Pick up a history book. Plenty of history that talk about leaders that inspired, especially in dark times. They need something to believe in.

Does anyone read history?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Approval ratings aside he either is doing a good job or he isn’t. I think he is - a better job than any president in my lifetime in fact.
Again. Pseudo intellectuals have no understanding of the hoi polloi. If the latte liberals know it, that is all that need to know.

Fuck the reality to millions of others.

Bigly sad.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
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I'm able to speak to disillusioned uninspired people and convince them to vote, because I can actually see where they are coming from.

Instead here we have pseudo intellectual Democrat policy wonks leading with -well he is great or the greatest president in my lifetime, and if you can't see that, you're insane and deserve the worst. Nobody deserves to be inspired in dire times.

What a bunch of fucking clowns.
 
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K1052

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I'm able to speak to disillusioned uninspired people and convince them to vote, because I can actually see where they are coming from.

Instead here we have pseudo intellectual Democrat policy wonks leading with -well he is great or the greatest president in my lifetime, and if you can't see that, you're insane and deserve the worst. Nobody deserves to be inspired in dire times.

What a bunch of fucking clowns.

We really seem to be suffering from a long term Obama related hangover here.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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We really seem to be suffering from a long term Obama related hangover here.
What we are suffering from are a bunch of elitist pseudo intellectuals who scoff at history and understanding the human condition.

Also, I didn't expect someone near Obama, but you people are too busy sipping on lattes to hear anything. The comments on here are hilarious. Hilariously bigly sad.

Christ, people just want someone who can look decent enough in fluff interviews reliably, and you guys think people want a Messiah.

Christ. I know a lot more now about the liberal elitist stereotype. It's kind of true.

I also think Biden can still win. But we have to take baby steps here with people apparently to even understand simple concepts first.
 
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