Open Carry knife

[Murloc]

who charges people knife in hand?
I don't think reality is like a martial arts movie.

If someone wants to stab you, they can do it be surprise or when they're already in your face and apparently only arguing/using fists. At that point it's difficult to do much with your gun.

 

[cmdrdredd]

who charges people knife in hand?
I don't think reality is like a martial arts movie.

If someone wants to stab you, they can do it be surprise or when they're already in your face and apparently only arguing/using fists. At that point it's difficult to do much with your gun.

I have personally witnessed it happen. Guy backed off in an argument and other dude pulled a blade and ran at him. Granted he got tackled by 5 people and ended up with a broken arm, but alcohol makes dumb people even dumber.

 

[waggy]

heh.

I carry a few different knives. I have never had a issue. Of course i do live out in farming area. It's not odd to see guys with knives or hunting knives on them.

I don't carry for self-defence. that would be my last thing i would pull. Then I would want my hunting/skinning knife. It has a little hook that is for gutting. i hit you in the stomach and yank you are going to lose all your guts.

 

[EliteRetard]

If you're gonna carry for personal defense, might as well fuck their shit up good.

But I'd rather have my 'general purpose' Kershaws.

PFFFWHAHAHA!

Anything as stupid as that is just as ridiculous as holding a rifle backwards by it's barrel.

As somebody else mentioned, almost nobody anymore is properly trained with steel...which makes it all the more effective by those who are.

No you can't dodge bullets and go "NINJA" on their ass, but properly trained there is almost nothing more effective at close range.
I certainly won't trust my life to some spray or a couple of batteries. But a knife is not my only weapon.

 

[brainhulk]

heh.

I carry a few different knives. I have never had a issue. Of course i do live out in farming area. It's not odd to see guys with knives or hunting knives on them.

I don't carry for self-defence. that would be my last thing i would pull. Then I would want my hunting/skinning knife. It has a little hook that is for gutting. i hit you in the stomach and yank you are going to lose all your guts.

so would an old man have a lot of trouble slicing a fast younger dude?

 

[lxskllr]

Anything as stupid as that is just as ridiculous as holding a rifle backwards by it's barrel.

I almost wrote something about that knife a couple times, and then bailed on it. I don't know what to think of that. I don't think it's a defense knife. It looks like a rescue blade that's meant to cut through rope and webbing, while protecting the skin of the rescued. The tip is thin and weak, and you have the risk of it getting hung up in clothing, and pulled from your hand. If I were selecting a defense knife from all the pictures in this thread, that would be close to last on my list.

 

[EliteRetard]

I almost wrote something about that knife a couple times, and then bailed on it. I don't know what to think of that. I don't think it's a defense knife. It looks like a rescue blade that's meant to cut through rope and webbing, while protecting the skin of the rescued. The tip is thin and weak, and you have the risk of it getting hung up in clothing, and pulled from your hand. If I were selecting a defense knife from all the pictures in this thread, that would be close to last on my list.

That knife would be terrible for rope too (especially loose), the small teeth would bind hang and fray on most everything.

 

[phucheneh]

LOL; okay, professional knife fighters.

That's one of the best defensive knives on the market. If you don't understand how that can inflict massive trauma with little to no training, you're dense. If you think a situation that comes down to use of a knife is about stabbing, you're dense.

 

[lxskllr]

LOL; okay, professional knife fighters.

That's one of the best defensive knives on the market. If you don't understand how that can inflict massive trauma with little to no training, you're dense. If you think a situation that comes down to use of a knife is about stabbing, you're dense.

As I said, slashing with that could get it pulled from your hand when it hangs up in clothes. A $12 loosely knit baja shirt could defeat that knife. If it were handed to me, and I was told I had to use it, the first thing I'd do is take the curved point off.

I'd be interested in seeing the product page for that knife.

 

[Scotteq]

LOL; okay, professional knife fighters.

That's one of the best defensive knives on the market. If you don't understand how that can inflict massive trauma with little to no training, you're dense. If you think a situation that comes down to use of a knife is about stabbing, you're dense.

I'll be certain to keep that in mind if I'm ever attacked by a box of linoleum tile...

 

[Josh123]

PFFFWHAHAHA!

Anything as stupid as that is just as ridiculous as holding a rifle backwards by it's barrel.

As somebody else mentioned, almost nobody anymore is properly trained with steel...which makes it all the more effective by those who are.

No you can't dodge bullets and go "NINJA" on their ass, but properly trained there is almost nothing more effective at close range.
I certainly won't trust my life to some spray or a couple of batteries. But a knife is not my only weapon.

This comes to mind when I see a knife like that.

 

[waggy]

so would an old man have a lot of trouble slicing a fast younger dude?

sure we do. its is one reason its silly to rely on a knife. BUT its better then nothing.

i have a lot of knives. None of them are for self defense. I think the one i would use would be my hunting knife. it has a small blade with a hook for ripping out the guts of deer.

 

[phucheneh]

As I said, slashing with that could get it pulled from your hand when it hangs up in clothes. A $12 loosely knit baja shirt could defeat that knife. If it were handed to me, and I was told I had to use it, the first thing I'd do is take the curved point off.

I'd be interested in seeing the product page for that knife.

http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=60

The tip is meant to dig itself deeper, but not to get hung up. Worst case, it does and it breaks due to it being super-thin.

I don't even like Spyderco knives. But I can acknowledge that it's a useful design.

Only issue is that it's a 100% 'going armed' knife, and could arguably get you in more trouble than a gun because of retarded laws.

 

[lxskllr]

http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=60

The tip is meant to dig itself deeper, but not to get hung up. Worst case, it does and it breaks due to it being super-thin.

I don't even like Spyderco knives. But I can acknowledge that it's a useful design.

Only issue is that it's a 100% 'going armed' knife, and could arguably get you in more trouble than a gun because of retarded laws.

I'd like to see a professional assessment. I'm dubious of the design, but willing to change. I still wouldn't use it because it's impractical to use as a working knife(my main concern), but if it works for its intended purpose, it works.

 

[clamum]

I know nothing about curved/hawkbill blade type knives, but I wouldn't say they're useless: Karambit.

 

[phucheneh]

I know nothing about curved/hawkbill blade type knives, but I wouldn't say they're useless: Karambit.

LOL's you hold those upside-down, that's stoopid!

 

[kage69]

The gnarly Spyderco hawk bill knife is a Civilian IIRC. Sold a few of them in college, they're a big hit with people who want to look threatening. I remember reading the documentation that came with it, and if memory serves it's purpose is to deliver a huge vicious cut in order to allow it's user to make an escape. While I love the Spyder Edge, the shape of the blade and especially the feeble looking tip make me see it more as a novelty than a serious defense tool.

Like it or not the point of a blade is every bit as important a tool as the edge, and I don't see that product poking things very well.

 

[kage69]

LOL's you hold those upside-down, that's stoopid!

Just most of the time, silat practitioners will also hold them normally, with the blade up, depending on the strike or technique they are set to deliver.

Kerambit are not knives in the classical sense, they are used with punching techniques and raking moves aimed at veins, arteries and tendons. Some kerambit have a blunt hard piece opposite the curved blade for 'hardening the hand' (which I like) but 1 or 2 inches of steel seems a little inadequate to me. More of a surprise weapon, and one that requires familiarity to be used properly. I'd prefer to carry a yawara/suntetsu to harden my hand, and an actual pocket knife if I need a blade.

For the most part, warning bells should go off anytime you see someone using something reverse grip. Sacrificing reach is stupid, but I suppose there are some instances close in to the adversary where a reverse grip would be useful.

 

[lxskllr]

I'd prefer to carry a yawara/suntetsu to harden my hand, and an actual pocket knife if I need a blade.

 

[Smoblikat]

In NH there are 0 knife laws, so we can get everything from 12' katanas to switchblades and carry them wherever, whenever, and however we want. Same with guns too.

 

[MagickMan]

At 30 feet, I'd say you have a chance to make - one - shot unless you had already drawn and were covering the target.

Mythbusters did an episode on this exact scene. Watch it sometime.

It depends on how well drilled you are, there's no substitute for rigorous practice.

 

[shortylickens]

Mythbusters didnt need to. There have been TONS of reports & studies that say an angry, scared, or desperate person of any size and shape can easily cross 10 yards quickly.

 

[highland145]

Some years back, a guy went to a house near my parents to get into a fight. He pulls a knife. The other guy ran into his house and came back with a sword and stabbed the 1st guy. Sword trumps knife.

 

[MagickMan]

Mythbusters didnt need to. There have been TONS of reports & studies that say an angry, scared, or desperate person of any size and shape can easily cross 10 yards quickly.

Open or broken ground? Are there obstacles? How large is the attacker? What type of ammunition? There are a nearly infinite amount of variables.

 

[alkemyst]

Some years back, a guy went to a house near my parents to get into a fight. He pulls a knife. The other guy ran into his house and came back with a sword and stabbed the 1st guy. Sword trumps knife.

In reality a knife is a lot better right up in close.

Also in reality most of the times an ax is a lot better than a sword.

Swords look glamorous. But a proper ax with a point on the top has such a mass plus a handle that provides quite a bit of shielding.

In the end, if someone came here and I had to run back inside to come back out to fight them; it would be with a 911 call and then my pistol.

That said it's a bit rare I am not carrying my knife.