Opera 7.50 available

[ironk]

Have you guys also experienced similar problems? Is there any solution to this? Thanks.

Yes, this does happen since webmaster most of the time make their sites everything around IE. Sometimes its opera's fault too, but i doubt if thats the case. Have you tried setting the 'Identify browser as' to IE 6.0 in Tools>Quick Preferences>Identify as MSIE 6.0? It works many times, but sometimes it doesn't. Thats pretty much the only available woraround that i know of.

 

[santokki]

Originally posted by: localfinesse
This is the very best browser. I love the mouse gestures. Everybody should try this one.

Mozilla Firefox uses mouse gestures also. And it rocks some serious boo-tay.
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/marc.boullet/ext/extensions-en.html#vers09

It's free and it's GUI is a helluva lot prettier than Opera's.

 

[ironk]

i would have to disagree on the gui being prettier. At least the default linux version of it is ugly..if its the defaults we are comparing and not skinned ones.

 

[crowderd]

Originally posted by: crowderd
Can anybody compare Crazy Browser w/Opera? Which is better?

Bump.

Any takers on this?

 

[ironk]

it depends. I guess if you're a windows users you should try out crazybrowser/myIE2/avantbrowser. Those won't work on linux. The other disadvantage is that all of them are wrappers for IE so you're still using IE which personally i don't like. But if IE floats your boat then go with the wrappers. Otherwise at least give Opera a shot and see if you like it..

 

[abaez]

There is no way IE is faster than opera.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: finkl
Opera is a great web browser with a lot of useful features. I particularly like its support for multiple windows within the browser and the built-in popup stopping feature. It is much, much better than Internet Explorer. However, I use IE as my primary browser because it appears that some (in fact, quite a few) sites do not fully support Opera. I think it is due to the fact that some sites use IE-specific Javascripts. For example, I cannot access my company's web-version Outlook (duh) and some other sites with submenues. Have you guys also experienced similar problems? Is there any solution to this? Thanks.

It more than likely is a similar reason you can't use any other browser than IE for windows update.

 

[RideFree]

VirtualLarry,
does the Opera 7.50 errata mention that the security flaw is addressed?
Bug Fix 7.50

TIA

 

[Tegeril]

I've never seen any of the Firefox issues that were reported above and I leave it running for days, it's never allocated more than 50mb of virtual memory in those time periods, never crashes, and responds quickly always. You've got some other issues.

 

[fishy101]

Originally posted by: Tegeril
I've never seen any of the Firefox issues that were reported above and I leave it running for days, it's never allocated more than 50mb of virtual memory in those time periods, never crashes, and responds quickly always. You've got some other issues.

from your sig, you also have 1gb of memory. Not everyone has that kind of memory on their computers.

 

[crowderd]

Originally posted by: ironk
it depends. I guess if you're a windows users you should try out crazybrowser/myIE2/avantbrowser. Those won't work on linux. The other disadvantage is that all of them are wrappers for IE so you're still using IE which personally i don't like. But if IE floats your boat then go with the wrappers. Otherwise at least give Opera a shot and see if you like it..

I'm actually using CB @ home. I've been satisfied with its performance. Just wondered Opera was better.

I have Win 98SE so, if Opera works ok on it, I may give it a shot.

Thanks!

 

[ironk]

from your sig, you also have 1gb of memory. Not everyone has that kind of memory on their computers.

Lol

 

[Imyourzero]

I think it depends on the particular system setup...because I've read most of the comments here and for me,

1 - Out of IE/Opera/Firefox, Opera is the slowest for me and Firefox is the fastest on most pages. IE is the most compatible but I no longer use it due to the security holes and dated features

2 - I've never had issues with Firefox not wanting to close

3 - Firefox is by far my favorite of the 3, and once in a blue moon there will be a page it won't like so I'll just use IE to browse that particular page. I like Opera's layout and features, but for some reason it is very slow for me compared to the other 2...and besides, Firefox is ad-free without having to pay for it!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: RideFree
VirtualLarry,
does the Opera 7.50 errata mention that the security flaw is addressed?
Bug Fix 7.50

TIA

This was an old security bug, and was fixed in the next version (sometime around the 7.20/7.21 era, I think). What really got my goat was, there was no indication of a security issue, no urging of upgrading on Opera's site at all. The only way that I found out about it was on Bugtraq. Ironically, I was still using the old version, and had downloaded the updated version, but hadn't had the chance to install it yet. The exploit could cause browser lockup and/or (theoretically) execute arbitrary code. I DID have my browser lock up, on a possibly-suspect web site, and in-the-wild exploits were known of, apparently. I don't think that anything anomolous got installed though, no trace of anything strange afterwards. Just the fact that I managed to get hit by an exploit in Opera scared me enough to stop using it. (Wouldn't be caught dead using IE, except to visit mozilla.org to download Moz/Firefox.)

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Tegeril
I've never seen any of the Firefox issues that were reported above and I leave it running for days, it's never allocated more than 50mb of virtual memory in those time periods, never crashes, and responds quickly always. You've got some other issues.

I did note that my experiences were in corner-cases, involving worst-case behavior on low-memory (aka run-of-the-mill, as opposed to most "power-user") systems.

I will add a foornote, after installing an additional 2 x 256MB DIMMs, bringing my total RAM in this system to 768MB, that after having Firefox running for nearly a week now, that it hasn't crashed, seems fairly responsive still, but right now, it is using 514MB of virtual memory all to itself.

As long as it's VM footprint remains mostly in RAM, the worst-case behavior stemming from the broken GC handler behavior, touching most of the dynamically-allocated VM data multiple times per page operation will not be noticable. It's only when the VM size exceeds RAM and starts thrashing, that the application (and UI, because the UI is rendered via the browser engine) latency becomes all-too-painfully apparent.

Somewhere I bookmarked a list of the nearly 30 or so odd bugs related to all of this mess.

The Moz dev group has been doing marvelous work on Firefox, I must admit. But it still shares the "broken" core code of Moz, and these issues still affect it. I can attest to that running the same nightly 0.8 build that I am currently running, only a few weeks back when I only had 256MB of RAM, having to wait several minutes after closing each tab, before the browser would respond again.

Moral of the story? Mozilla/Firefox, is NOT for systems with less than 512MB (or more) of RAM, unless browsing is limited to short sessions, closing the browser completely after every session. Opera, OTOH, runs fine, with far less VM bloat and bad VM behavior, except of course for the security and other crashing bugs, which are IMHO enough to avoid using it still. (But when is Moz going to get crash-recovery features? There have been outstanding bugs on that issue for *four* years.)

 

[TrentSteel]

I've had stability problems with both Crazy and Avantbrowser. Since I upgraded from Windows 98SE years ago, I haven't had a single problem with IE. I've never really liked Opera, though I did use it when I had 98 installed as it was much more stable than IE. But it's not free, and the banner ("small" though some say it is) always irritated me. As much as I hate to admit it, since Windows XP was released I've been really disappointed with "third-party" browsers (if anything because IE performs at least well).

 

[ironk]

well, ad bar is much thinner now in the beta at the top..it used to be pretty thick.

 

[drewshin]

no one's mentioned the built in rss reader, which is also really cool.

 

[joeski]

Use the utility found at this url: danish-shareware.dk/soft/noopads. It covers the advertisements by placing a customizable toolbar over the ad. No hacking involved.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: joeski
Use the utility found at this url: danish-shareware.dk/soft/noopads. It covers the advertisements by placing a customizable toolbar over the ad. No hacking involved.

I seem to recall that setting up WebWasher as a local browser proxy server, also got rid of most/all of the ads.

 

[catrats]

Just an update to mention that Opera 7.50 has been officially released.

 

[Sandor]

Originally posted by: catrats
Just an update to mention that Opera 7.50 has been officially released.

thanks for the update

 

[lookin4dlz]

I didn't like Opera 6.x As I recall it caused problems on my computer and/or was slow. I had been using Broadpage, a tabbed browser that runs on the IE engine, but it had script errors al of the time. I've been Using Firefox for about six months & really like it. The only problem - and it's a big one for me because I read a lot of stuff on teh Internet - is that Acrobat causes a hang sometimes. How well does Opera work now?