Gagsplus actually charges UPS Ground Shipping costs, they have no extra costs. I am an affiliate of them and people don't realize that they have to provide some sort of detailed tracking for credit card companies so they can fight chargebacks.
Originally posted by: Spawndude
Looks like they padded the price with S & H.
Should cost no more than $3.00 to ship
Take the political crap to OT dude...Originally posted by: Tazan007
Ha, how ironic. They are now making money off a War which probably happened to get the Iraqi Oil and to increase military spending. As if people didn't make enough money off the 9/11 disaster, now they make money off a War in the name of Patriotism. Greedy bastages.
"Vote as you're told."
"Gladly pay your War Tax raises."
"Don't ask questions. About anything."
"Watch your neighbors. Especially foreign ones."
"Forget what your 401(k) used to be worth."
"Don't worry about the enviornment"
"Remember, Patriotism requires Blind Obedience."
Originally posted by: Tazan007
Originally posted by: SpideyCU
There are plenty of other forums for you folks to go whining about your political views. Keep it out of this one.
Yes master. Whatever you say master. I did not know master. Forgive me master...
Originally posted by: britinusa
How interesting to see George Bush's mug shot on these cards, a hero who dodged the military
Originally posted by: salfter
I'm sure the many people (not just the President) who've served their country in the Guard would take offense at your snide, ignorant remark. Since when is signing up in the Guard "dodging the military?"
Going AWOL is "dodging the military".
After Bush graduated from Yale, he applied for a position in the Texas National Guard, a position that required only part-time military duties at home, far from the battlefields of Vietnam. Bush shot to the front of 500 other applicants after a friend of his father, then a wealthy Houston congressman, phoned the Speaker of the Texas House.
After completing training as a pilot, George W. Bush requested and immediately received a transfer to an Alabama National Guard unit in May, 1972. But Bush never showed up for duty there, according to the Alabama unit's commander and the commander's assistant. There are absolutely no records indicating that he ever showed up.
Military records show that Bush's two commanding officers back in Texas reported George W. did not show up for duty there either for a year, and that they believed he had been transferred to Alabama. Meanwhile, when Bush failed to take his required annual medical exam in August, 1972, his pilot status was removed.
Click for document
It should be noted that reporting for military duty is not something that's optional, particularly during a war. Those caught shirking National Guard duties were usually punished by being drafted into the real army ? the one that landed you in Vietnam where some 350 American soldiers were killed each week. But, despite more than a year absent from duty, nothing happened to the well-connected George W. Bush.
The rich take care of the rich and the poor go to war.
Originally posted by: HarryK
Originally posted by: salfter
I'm sure the many people (not just the President) who've served their country in the Guard would take offense at your snide, ignorant remark. Since when is signing up in the Guard "dodging the military?"
Going AWOL is "dodging the military".
After Bush graduated from Yale, he applied for a position in the Texas National Guard, a position that required only part-time military duties at home, far from the battlefields of Vietnam. Bush shot to the front of 500 other applicants after a friend of his father, then a wealthy Houston congressman, phoned the Speaker of the Texas House.
After completing training as a pilot, George W. Bush requested and immediately received a transfer to an Alabama National Guard unit in May, 1972. But Bush never showed up for duty there, according to the Alabama unit's commander and the commander's assistant. There are absolutely no records indicating that he ever showed up.
Military records show that Bush's two commanding officers back in Texas reported George W. did not show up for duty there either for a year, and that they believed he had been transferred to Alabama. Meanwhile, when Bush failed to take his required annual medical exam in August, 1972, his pilot status was removed.
Click for document
It should be noted that reporting for military duty is not something that's optional, particularly during a war. Those caught shirking National Guard duties were usually punished by being drafted into the real army ? the one that landed you in Vietnam where some 350 American soldiers were killed each week. But, despite more than a year absent from duty, nothing happened to the well-connected George W. Bush.
The rich take care of the rich and the poor go to war.
Nice neutral source of information you have there. The root of that url is cis.net, who touts their new servers thusly:
New Support Forums - CIS introduces several new servers to our growing family. ils.clinton.net and irc.clinton.net are bringing CIS users closer together with LIVE text, video and audio conferencing.
But I'm sure they are only interested in the truth, right?
Originally posted by: IIIBradIII
Originally posted by: HarryK
Originally posted by: salfter
I'm sure the many people (not just the President) who've served their country in the Guard would take offense at your snide, ignorant remark. Since when is signing up in the Guard "dodging the military?"
Going AWOL is "dodging the military".
After Bush graduated from Yale, he applied for a position in the Texas National Guard, a position that required only part-time military duties at home, far from the battlefields of Vietnam. Bush shot to the front of 500 other applicants after a friend of his father, then a wealthy Houston congressman, phoned the Speaker of the Texas House.
After completing training as a pilot, George W. Bush requested and immediately received a transfer to an Alabama National Guard unit in May, 1972. But Bush never showed up for duty there, according to the Alabama unit's commander and the commander's assistant. There are absolutely no records indicating that he ever showed up.
Military records show that Bush's two commanding officers back in Texas reported George W. did not show up for duty there either for a year, and that they believed he had been transferred to Alabama. Meanwhile, when Bush failed to take his required annual medical exam in August, 1972, his pilot status was removed.
Click for document
It should be noted that reporting for military duty is not something that's optional, particularly during a war. Those caught shirking National Guard duties were usually punished by being drafted into the real army ? the one that landed you in Vietnam where some 350 American soldiers were killed each week. But, despite more than a year absent from duty, nothing happened to the well-connected George W. Bush.
The rich take care of the rich and the poor go to war.
Nice neutral source of information you have there. The root of that url is cis.net, who touts their new servers thusly:
New Support Forums - CIS introduces several new servers to our growing family. ils.clinton.net and irc.clinton.net are bringing CIS users closer together with LIVE text, video and audio conferencing.
But I'm sure they are only interested in the truth, right?
Not wanting to flame this around too much, but i thought that (or along those lines) is what really happened. Have you heard otherwise (a military source that did report he fulfilled his duties).
Just wanting to hear both sides
Originally posted by: IIIBradIII
But I'm sure they are only interested in the truth, right?
Originally posted by: shahbazq
Not wanting to flame this around too much, but i thought that (or along those lines) is what really happened. Have you heard otherwise (a military source that did report he fulfilled his duties).
Just wanting to hear both sides
From The Birmingham News"Campaigning Friday in Tuscaloosa, Ala., Bush was asked about his 1972 service in that state.
"I can't remember what I did, but I wasn't flying because they didn't have the same airplanes. I fulfilled my obligations."
In May, retired Gen. William Turnipseed, the former commander of the Alabama Guard unit, said Bush did not report to him, although the young airman was required to do so. His orders, dated Sept. 15, 1972, said: "Lieutenant Bush should report to Lt. Col. William Turnipseed, DCO, to perform equivalent training."
"To my knowledge, he never showed up," Turnipseed said last month
Ten Jefferson County Vietnam veterans are offering $1,000 to anyone with proof that Texas Gov. George W. Bush actually served in the Alabama National Guard.
"We're not looking for people to just come off the streets to say, 'I know him and he was there,' Stewart said. "We're looking for hard-core evidence."
Dan Bartlett, spokesman for the Bush-Cheney Campaign, said there are documents that Bush met his requirements for every year he served in the Guard.
Bush himself, in his 1999 autobiography, ''A Charge to Keep,'' recounts the thrills of his pilot training, which he completed in June 1970. ''I continued flying with my unit for the next several years,'' the governor wrote.
But both accounts are contradicted by copies of Bush's military records, obtained by the Globe. In his final 18 months of military service in 1972 and 1973, Bush did not fly at all. And for much of that time, Bush was all but unaccounted for: For a full year, there is no record that he showed up for the periodic drills required of part-time guardsmen.
"You might think that people would remember serving with the man who later became president, but nobody has been found in Alabama who does."