Opteron 165 Retail $99.99 Shipped @ Newegg!!!

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: dehemke
This is about where these need to be priced to have any value against the C2D.

I love AMD, but they need to get the new chips out soon. It feels like the K5 days again where they can only compete on low budget builds.

Not really, unless you're one in a small segment of the market that needs bleeding edge, this chip is fine. Even for gaming, I doubt that a 165 is going to CPU constrain you on too many games with an adequate video card at normal-high resolution.

It might be low budget, but unless you have a specific task that actually needs the faster hardware (C2D), it just means you can build yourself a good system on a low budget. In other words, low budget isn't low performance these days.

That is, unless, you just want to tell people you have a cutting edge build. But I think I'm old enough not to care.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

will this processor be a significant upgrade from a 3000+? (the computer is in my sig)

 

[shelaby]

is this a big step up from a 3000+ venice? @2500

 

[jjmIII]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
will this processor be a significant upgrade from a 3000+? (the computer is in my sig)

I replaced a 3000+ with an x2 3800+ and couldn't really tell a difference.
If your cpu is always at 60-100% load, maybe you need an upgrade. I didn't.

I know people get tired of comparing these chips to C2D, but I can't help it.
I don't own C2D, but I plan to get one eventually, and don't need anymore "minor" upgrades until then. Maybe others do??

 

[soflawill]

love my opty 165, this deal is smokin

 

[doggyfromplanetwoof]

Originally posted by: shelaby
is this a big step up from a 3000+ venice? @2500

no.

Unless you multitask 'alot', than yes.

 

[Greenman]

Great price, but I'm wondering if I should pay the extra $17 for a 170. As I recall the 165 has a 9x multiplier and the 170 has a 10x, is that correct? The 10 multi would work better on my board.

 

[raildogg]

Would this be a worthy upgrade from an Athlon 3700+ San Diego?

 

[videopho]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Currently, I've got a 939 3800+ X2 running at 2.52Ghz (1.375v) on an Ultra-D with 1GB of RAM.

I'm torn between spending ~$200-$250 for an upgrade to an AM2 Brisbane 3600+ that includes CPU, RAM, and MB, or getting this with hopefully being able to hit 2.8Ghz. I could sell my 3800+ for $50, so the end price would only be $50 for the 165.

I'm not wasting money on DDR at this point, so I'd still be stuck with only a GB of RAM. I don't game much anymore, though.

I think I just talked myself into getting the 165.

[Edit] Pulled the trigger on it after seeing it come back in stock.

I'm in the same boat you're.
Is the Opty 165 a much improved upgrade over the x2 3800+, performance wise?

 

[mangust]

If only DDR prices were anywhere near DDR2 levels I'd pull a trigger. High RAM prices have effectively killed the S939 platform.

 

[dehemke]

Newegg also has AM2

AMD Opteron 1210 Santa Ana 1.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor - Retail for $99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819105015

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: videopho

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
Currently, I've got a 939 3800+ X2 running at 2.52Ghz (1.375v) on an Ultra-D with 1GB of RAM.

I'm torn between spending ~$200-$250 for an upgrade to an AM2 Brisbane 3600+ that includes CPU, RAM, and MB, or getting this with hopefully being able to hit 2.8Ghz. I could sell my 3800+ for $50, so the end price would only be $50 for the 165.

I'm not wasting money on DDR at this point, so I'd still be stuck with only a GB of RAM. I don't game much anymore, though.

I think I just talked myself into getting the 165.

[Edit] Pulled the trigger on it after seeing it come back in stock.

I'm in the same boat you're.
Is the Opty 165 a much improved upgrade over the x2 3800+, performance wise?

Nope. Same speed.

 

[jelifah]

As a point of reference I bought this chip from NewEgg for $189 on 11/7, gotta love seeing Order History from NewEgg.

My point is during that time everyone kept saying S939 is dead, get the chips before they stop making them. *rolling my eyes*

As for my experience after the upgrade I have to admit that, obviously, my reencoding is SO much faster. If you have an S939 single core you owe it to yourself to spend $100 and go with this Dual Core power house. Then you can jump the DDR2 era and move to DDR3 in 12-18 months. It's the cheapest performance upgrade, when comparing cost/performance, you'll do.

And one last kick in the groin to all you S939 haters. It's a great platform. I'd love to move to C2Duo but, considering I'm sitting here at AGP & DDR, there is no way I can justify $750 - $1,000 to move to a new platform. The performance improvement is not worth it for me, I'd rather upgrade my 6 year old Inspiron 8100 laptop with that money

 

[jjmIII]

Originally posted by: mangust
If only DDR prices were anywhere near DDR2 levels I'd pull a trigger. High RAM prices have effectively killed the S939 platform.

Yes DDR2 is cheap right now, but I've picked up 2x512mb pc3200 twice in FS/T for $40 shipped (Geil, and Corsair Value Series).

 

[zikronix]

not a bad deal but not worth the upgrade to me

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I wonder about whether I should go dual core, but I really don't want to spend that much for a processor on an unsupported platform. Shouldn't all of the Socket 939 chips be under $150 now?

I currently have an Opteron 148 that I can overclock to at least 2.53 Ghz at 1.425V (while being stable in Stress Prime95 2004). I'm mostly a gamer. Would it make sense for me to buy a 165 or 170 and then eBay the 148? I'd want that 165 or 170 to be able to get up to at least 2.7 Ghz (not sure if my mobo can handle doing that with such a low multiplier).

 

[Googer]

The 3800+ is only $83, it's essentially the same chip as the 165 but 200 MHz faster.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tion=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: Googer
The 3800+ is only $83, it's essentially the same chip as the 165 but 200 MHz faster.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tion=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=

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Nice $83 OEM though

I'd rather get the 165. Retail + Heatpipe HSF

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I'm mostly a gamer. Would it make sense for me to buy a 165 or 170 and then eBay the 148?

Depends on the games you play and the resolution/settings you play them at. The majority of games these days don't see a vast improvement from dual-core CPUs (though some exceptions exist, such as RTS and online games). Hopefully in the (near) future, things will change. If you're gaming at high resolutions, such as 1600x1200 and above, the CPU speed matters even less.

In many cases, you're better off spending that money on a faster GPU. The problem here is that, as someone already posted, you can get an X2 for about $80. Putting that $80 toward a faster GPU might not get you much faster (i.e if you have a 7900gt for example and want a good upgrade, you're looking at a 320GTS minimum for over $200).

With these low-end s939 chips being so cheap, it's almost a must-buy, unless there's another component in your system that needs an upgrade more-- like an aging display, 1GB of ram, or an older GPU.

 

[mangust]

Originally posted by: Googer
The 3800+ is only $83, it's essentially the same chip as the 165 but 200 MHz faster.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...tion=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=

Opteron's cache is twice as big though.
Now I see that newegg has Crucial 1GB stick for $43 AR.
It gets me thinking about this deal again.

 

[jelifah]

What's amazing to me is the power available for the price.

Considering this chip for $106, the 1GB DDR Ram for $43, and a $50 S939 board, and you have yourself an EXTREMELY powerful system for a $200 base price. Then, if you need graphics horsepower you can get a Radeon x1950 for $200 at ZZF, or you can just keep the graphics card, and overall system price, cheap.

 

[GeezerMan]

Originally posted by: jelifah
What's amazing to me is the power available for the price.

Considering this chip for $106, the 1GB DDR Ram for $43, and a $50 S939 board, and you have yourself an EXTREMELY powerful system for a $200 base price. Then, if you need graphics horsepower you can get a Radeon x1950 for $200 at ZZF, or you can just keep the graphics card, and overall system price, cheap.

That's right. It's "old and obsolete", but my opty 165 should do me just fine for quite a while yet. I very rarely max it out.

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: jelifah
What's amazing to me is the power available for the price.

Considering this chip for $106, the 1GB DDR Ram for $43, and a $50 S939 board, and you have yourself an EXTREMELY powerful system for a $200 base price. Then, if you need graphics horsepower you can get a Radeon x1950 for $200 at ZZF, or you can just keep the graphics card, and overall system price, cheap.

The Sapphire 1950GT Retail Boxed is $130AR Shipped

939 is not absolute... technology is just achieving a lot faster stuff than what we can use


I think I might just keep my 3000+ and Asus crossfire mobo as it is not selling well/too cheap

 

[timsactown]

I'm in the same boat you're.
Is the Opty 165 a much improved upgrade over the x2 3800+, performance wise?

the X2 3800+ runs @ 2.0G and Opteron 165 @ 1.8G; however, the X2 3800+ has 1 MB cache, as oppose to 2MB cache on the 165.

If you do a little research of your own on Google, you will fine that the x2 3800+ performs better than the Opteron 165 by about 10% to 15%. It's a difference story if you are into overclocking. Opteron 165 is well-known for it overclocking potential. I am running mine @ 2.6 at stock voltage on air. That's a 800 mhz increase and many people are able to get 2.8 to 3.0 when they upped the voltage and cooling.

 

[intogamer]

Originally posted by: timsactown

I'm in the same boat you're.
Is the Opty 165 a much improved upgrade over the x2 3800+, performance wise?

the X2 3800+ runs @ 2.0G and Opteron 165 @ 1.8G; however, the X2 3800+ has 1 MB cache, as oppose to 2MB cache on the 165.

If you do a little research of your own on Google, you will fine that the x2 3800+ performs better than the Opteron 165 by about 10% to 15%. It's a difference story if you are into overclocking. Opteron 165 is well-known for it overclocking potential. I am running mine @ 2.6 at stock voltage on air. That's a 800 mhz increase and many people are able to get 2.8 to 3.0 when they upped the voltage and cooling.

Even though with 2MB cache... you'll have to use a program that benifits from it

BTW combine this with the $43AR Crucial 1GB deal and use the Heatpipe HSF and you got yourself a winnar!