Originally posted by: ariafrost
You should also note that your 4.2GHz on air isn't very typical either.
a) I'm not on air. Check the sig.
b) I wasn't aware that was part of the debate at hand.
Originally posted by: ariafrost
You should also note that your 4.2GHz on air isn't very typical either.
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well then maybe you should go buy an X2 so you can see it for yourself, I don't see you being able to do an apples to apples comparison either..I can tell you that at 3.7ghz, the pentium-d's still lag far behind the X2 @2.6ghz, which is more than you can say having nothing but the pentium-d yourself..and going by the numbers I get at differant speeds, 4.2ghz is a very accurate prediction of what is needed to catch the X2 @2.6ghz..maybe if any of my 4 differant pentium-d's were able to make it to 4.2ghz on a reasonably priced motherboard I could give you an exact comparison, but why would I want to spend twice as much on a motherboard to get the performance I already get with my X2?
Originally posted by: Faikius
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Well then maybe you should go buy an X2 so you can see it for yourself, I don't see you being able to do an apples to apples comparison either..I can tell you that at 3.7ghz, the pentium-d's still lag far behind the X2 @2.6ghz, which is more than you can say having nothing but the pentium-d yourself..and going by the numbers I get at differant speeds, 4.2ghz is a very accurate prediction of what is needed to catch the X2 @2.6ghz..maybe if any of my 4 differant pentium-d's were able to make it to 4.2ghz on a reasonably priced motherboard I could give you an exact comparison, but why would I want to spend twice as much on a motherboard to get the performance I already get with my X2?
a) I can't do an A-A comparison, but then again I'm not the one claiming to have done so.
b) If you want to bring price into it, yes my MB was more expensive then yours. But then again, my processor and ram were quite a bit cheaper at the time of purchase.
Originally posted by: stevty2889
A. The point is I did do an apples to apples comparison..and couldn't get any of 4 pentium-d's to match the performance that was easy to obtain with the X2..on the stock heatsink, on a $100 motherboard..I also ran some benchmarks on my Dothan @2.4ghz and set the affinity on my X2 and Pentium-d's to use a single core only..even the Dothan outperformed the pentium-d's..@3.7ghz..which is also why I am getting a core duo. I don't know what more you want..if you can't get the same performance you can't get the same performance, I mean you might be able to get a pinto to outrun a porche if you put A LOT of effort in to it, but is it really worth the trouble, when you can just buy the porche?
Originally posted by: Faikius
Originally posted by: stevty2889
A. The point is I did do an apples to apples comparison..and couldn't get any of 4 pentium-d's to match the performance that was easy to obtain with the X2..on the stock heatsink, on a $100 motherboard..I also ran some benchmarks on my Dothan @2.4ghz and set the affinity on my X2 and Pentium-d's to use a single core only..even the Dothan outperformed the pentium-d's..@3.7ghz..which is also why I am getting a core duo. I don't know what more you want..if you can't get the same performance you can't get the same performance, I mean you might be able to get a pinto to outrun a porche if you put A LOT of effort in to it, but is it really worth the trouble, when you can just buy the porche?
You compared an AMD at 2.6Ghz to your D920 running at 4.2Ghz?
When? I must have missed it...
Originally posted by: stevty2889
The point was that I couldn't get any of my pentium-d's to 4.2ghz..the point was I couldn't get any of 4 of them to equal the performance of my X2..apparently your definition of an apples to apples comparision is to make everything have the exact same performance, rather than setting them up equaly, and giving them an equal chance to match performance. I went through 5 differant motherboard trying to get my pentium-d's to get the same performance as my X2, 3 differant sets of memory, 3 differant power supplies..and they just couldn't do it..
Originally posted by: Faikius
If you would've said your AMD out does an Intel at 3.7 and left it at that, fine. That much is obvious. But when you start "assuming" numbers for higher clockspeeds....
Originally posted by: Faikius
Where to begin pointing out your ignorance...
1) It takes an AMD at 2.6-7Ghz to match a P4 at 4.2Ghz
Here is 2.6 Hammer beating 4.56Ghz 965 XEOriginally posted by: Faikius
Originally posted by: stevty2889
A. The point is I did do an apples to apples comparison..and couldn't get any of 4 pentium-d's to match the performance that was easy to obtain with the X2..on the stock heatsink, on a $100 motherboard..I also ran some benchmarks on my Dothan @2.4ghz and set the affinity on my X2 and Pentium-d's to use a single core only..even the Dothan outperformed the pentium-d's..@3.7ghz..which is also why I am getting a core duo. I don't know what more you want..if you can't get the same performance you can't get the same performance, I mean you might be able to get a pinto to outrun a porche if you put A LOT of effort in to it, but is it really worth the trouble, when you can just buy the porche?
You compared an AMD at 2.6Ghz to your D920 running at 4.2Ghz?
When? I must have missed it...