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Attic

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Why do we put up with it in the first place? I don't care if it only happens oncell in a blue moon.

It should never happen. That's the problem in America today. We've gotten so used to these things that we just shrug our shoulders.


I shrug. Don't know how else to handle something so horrific that is getting relatively common given the degree of depravity shown.

I don't think many of us can approach these events with any sense of reality as that would crush most of us. I'd guess these events destroy 100's of lives, why get close to such an edge?
 

jhansman

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I shake my head in sadness. I fear something terribly wrong has happened to us as a culture; I have my own theories as to why these massacres occur, but in truth I have no clue. We can knee-jerk blame the existence of weapons, but I think we all know they are a symptom, and the cause lies much deeper.
 

Mai72

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IMO, the fact that there are so many guns available in America is frightening. You can say bullying is an issue, but kids are bullied in other countries and they don't have the mass shootings America has. When I was in South Korea I was surprised to find that bullying is a huge issue there. Yet, there isn't one case of school shooting.

There is no easy solution. The shooter doesn't care about the consequences. People are too selfish with their own lives to notice that something might be wrong with their next door neighbor. I mean seriously. How could someone like James Holmes booby trap his apartment without someone noticing?
 

ALIVE

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i agree. WE should be doing more for mental health care anyway. but as a nation we tend to just cut them loose and them do whatever.

or even better change the society and the school system all together

instead with this feminism bullshit that target and punishes boys for being boys
when i small boy is called toxic, rapist racist. Because that is the right thing to do what you expect to happen!?!??!?

A tiny amount of people will assume the role you are saying to them and then you can go out saying we are right??? Why when boyd were allowed to be boys we did not have this bullshit??

Its another thing to punish someone for hitting another person and it is another thing to punish someone because he is a boy. If society wants to create dis factional people then thats what it will get.

Let the boys be boys and the girls girls. Equallity is on the opportunities not in the biology.
 

LegendKiller

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I shake my head in sadness. I fear something terribly wrong has happened to us as a culture; I have my own theories as to why these massacres occur, but in truth I have no clue. We can knee-jerk blame the existence of weapons, but I think we all know they are a symptom, and the cause lies much deeper.

In the grand scheme of things these "massacres" are nothing but a blip. Far more people die of smoking and suntanning than "massacres". Yet we haven't banned guns, or tanning beds (or suntanning).

These "massacres" are also not really occurring more frequently. They also occur in other countries. Heck the guy who foiled the train shooting went to the same school. Where was the train shooting attempt? No the US.
 

LegendKiller

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IMO, the fact that there are so many guns available in America is frightening. You can say bullying is an issue, but kids are bullied in other countries and they don't have the mass shootings America has. When I was in South Korea I was surprised to find that bullying is a huge issue there. Yet, there isn't one case of school shooting.

There is no easy solution. The shooter doesn't care about the consequences. People are too selfish with their own lives to notice that something might be wrong with their next door neighbor. I mean seriously. How could someone like James Holmes booby trap his apartment without someone noticing?

Why? You are 5x more likely to die from the flu than guns. Make that multiple times that once you cut out gang/drug/other illegal action violence. The average person is far more likely to die in a car accident than a mass shooting, or really any kind of shooting.
 

ALIVE

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IMO, the fact that there are so many guns available in America is frightening. You can say bullying is an issue, but kids are bullied in other countries and they don't have the mass shootings America has. When I was in South Korea I was surprised to find that bullying is a huge issue there. Yet, there isn't one case of school shooting.

There is no easy solution. The shooter doesn't care about the consequences. People are too selfish with their own lives to notice that something might be wrong with their next door neighbor. I mean seriously. How could someone like James Holmes booby trap his apartment without someone noticing?

And in countries you can not get a gun? The criminals have guns and the people have none. If you cross the line it wont matter i you can buy a gun or not because you will find one.

Guns is not a problem people are. If he entered with a bow and arrows and start killing people. Then we should be all outrage and ban bows????
If i want to kill i will find the way to kill. It does not matter what is for bitten. or not.

Simple solution. Molotof bombs. Easy to construct and the materials can not be panned. In the past the Chinese army also constructed armors from paper so suddenly we need to ban paper???

Its all about taking the right and the possibility of self defense of the people.

Also in my country they freed all the mental into the cities because they need to reenter society. That a neighbor of mine is violent and every now and then goes into violent shock and hits and destroy anything in front of him. Does not matter we need him around us because !?!?!??!?

Not housing these people make as a bad barbaric oppression society. But we will use this people that should have been locked up to pass laws to cut off our freedom and make us live in a totalitarian society.

Power to the crazy. Lets fuck the normal majority for a few mental fruit cakes who have more rights than us.
 

MongGrel

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And in countries you can not get a gun? The criminals have guns and the people have none. If you cross the line it wont matter i you can buy a gun or not because you will find one.

Guns is not a problem people are. If he entered with a bow and arrows and start killing people. Then we should be all outrage and ban bows????
If i want to kill i will find the way to kill. It does not matter what is for bitten. or not.

Simple solution. Molotof bombs. Easy to construct and the materials can not be panned. In the past the Chinese army also constructed armors from paper so suddenly we need to ban paper???

Its all about taking the right and the possibility of self defense of the people.

Also in my country they freed all the mental into the cities because they need to reenter society. That a neighbor of mine is violent and every now and then goes into violent shock and hits and destroy anything in front of him. Does not matter we need him around us because !?!?!??!?

Not housing these people make as a bad barbaric oppression society. But we will use this people that should have been locked up to pass laws to cut off our freedom and make us live in a totalitarian society.

Power to the crazy. Lets fuck the normal majority for a few mental fruit cakes who have more rights than us.

Seriously dude.

Your oppression crap is getting old, even going ballistic in the Hume thread was ridiculous and I didn't say a word there.



Blah blah blah oppression.

You go off about that non stop even when it doesn't apply to anything.
 
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ALIVE

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Seriously dude.

Your oppression crap is getting old, even going ballistic in the Hume thread was ridiculous and I didn't say a word there.



Blah blah blah oppression.

You go off about that non stop even when it doesn't apply to anything.

Do you or not think that society can construct the behavior of people??
 

MongGrel

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I wonder how many people were starved to death/raped today in various countries....
 
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ALIVE

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I wonder how many people were starved to death/raped today in various countries....

and how many more people will starve to death if the poor countries keep exploding their population. In the las century many areas have 5 or 6 times more people. A humanitarian problem in enormous proportion is going to happen.

so the solution is? give them food to have more population and thus making more population to suffer?? If they do nothing to control their number then reality will do through hunger.

Crying for the wrong reasons will not solve the problem will just make it worse.
While you cry for the huger issue,i imagine you are also against the policy of china for 1 child in a desperate attempt to control their population. If chine did not do that then by now they would have suffered another famine killing million.

The hunger in north Korea. No cries about that? It is so funny when the cries are motivated politically. We cry for this but not for them.
 

MongGrel

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and how many more people will starve to death if the poor countries keep exploding their population. In the las century many areas have 5 or 6 times more people. A humanitarian problem in enormous proportion is going to happen.

so the solution is? give them food to have more population and thus making more population to suffer?? If they do nothing to control their number then reality will do through hunger.

Crying for the wrong reasons will not solve the problem will just make it worse.
While you cry for the huger issue,i imagine you are also against the policy of china for 1 child in a desperate attempt to control their population. If chine did not do that then by now they would have suffered another famine killing million.

The hunger in north Korea. No cries about that? It is so funny when the cries are motivated politically. We cry for this but not for them.

So long story short, you seem to think making and handing out Molotov Cocktails is the solution ?

 

Humpy

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In the grand scheme of things these "massacres" are nothing but a blip. Far more people die of smoking and suntanning than "massacres". Yet we haven't banned guns, or tanning beds (or suntanning).

These "massacres" are also not really occurring more frequently. They also occur in other countries. Heck the guy who foiled the train shooting went to the same school. Where was the train shooting attempt? No the US.

Fuck it.

In the grand scheme of things everything is nothing but a blip.
 

ALIVE

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So long story short, you seem to think handing out Molotov Cocktails is the solution ?

short story short it does not matter if you ban guns, there will be always something else to be used. Molotov was an example of simplicity cheap construction and possibility of lots of damage. Even screwdrivers can be used instead of knifes. Banning weapons will not make people stop killing people. In the today africa in some ara f tribal wars they still kill each other with knifes because of the lack of fire arms.
 

OverVolt

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And in countries you can not get a gun? The criminals have guns and the people have none. If you cross the line it wont matter i you can buy a gun or not because you will find one.

Guns is not a problem people are. If he entered with a bow and arrows and start killing people. Then we should be all outrage and ban bows????
If i want to kill i will find the way to kill. It does not matter what is for bitten. or not.

Simple solution. Molotof bombs. Easy to construct and the materials can not be panned. In the past the Chinese army also constructed armors from paper so suddenly we need to ban paper???

Its all about taking the right and the possibility of self defense of the people.

Also in my country they freed all the mental into the cities because they need to reenter society. That a neighbor of mine is violent and every now and then goes into violent shock and hits and destroy anything in front of him. Does not matter we need him around us because !?!?!??!?

Not housing these people make as a bad barbaric oppression society. But we will use this people that should have been locked up to pass laws to cut off our freedom and make us live in a totalitarian society.

Power to the crazy. Lets fuck the normal majority for a few mental fruit cakes who have more rights than us.

There was the plane guy not that long ago. I think this is all part of the same problem. Emotional bluntness due to drugs.

I have no doubt someone brave tried to talk some sense into this guy and failed.
 
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ALIVE

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There was the plane guy not that long ago. I think this is all part of the same problem. Emotional bluntness due to drugs.

you do not wake up one day and you kill people. it will take a period of time that you will be pushed and break. and then after the break you will spent time to prepare and act.

So you can look and try to stop people that are in the pace of preparation. Or better one try to eliminate the factors that push people after their breaking point. Since that was nto happening in the last years then checking how society worked in the past and how society works now the differences but which ones are the cause of the problem.

Americans owned guns 1 century ago but did you hear people doing things like that?? So that society was more normal than this one. This one makes mass murderers. Do not blame the how or the who blame the why. Thats when something happens all people ask the why? Knowing the wy we can change so it can not happen again.
 

Attic

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I'd like to know a few things about the individuals involved in the mass shootings.



What mental illness did they suffer from, if any?

When last time they got laid?

Video games played and which ones and how much time?

Last contact with friends or family before incident?



Unsure how to square the invasion of privacy here if we were to develop any kind of "minority report" solution to these crimes.
 

ALIVE

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Impossible.

Too many guns and people on the planet.

Even in places that can't afford food I've seen you can get a AK-47 for two packs of cigarettes.



But it doesn't pertain to the topic so I'll stop.

unless someone is giving the ak 47 for free to this dealers there is no possibility to sell them that low and make profit. if guns where sold for smoke then it was not going to be billion dollar illegal industry.

so if i go there with cuban cigars can i get a missile???
 

MongGrel

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unless someone is giving the ak 47 for free to this dealers there is no possibility to sell them that low and make profit. if guns where sold for smoke then it was not going to be billion dollar illegal industry.

so if i go there with cuban cigars can i get a missile???


You have a nice night there skippy.

Rant away after grabbing that.

Seems your English has improved dramatically lately over some of your other ramblings in threads.

Who said anything about Cuba ?
 
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ALIVE

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I'd like to know a few things about the individuals involved in the mass shootings.



What mental illness did they suffer from, if any?

When last time they got laid?

Video games played and which ones and how much time?

Last contact with friends or family before incident?



Unsure how to square the invasion of privacy here if we were to develop any kind of "minority report" solution to these crimes.

also who bullied the kids
who offend him in daily basis
if not having sex is a problem then make prostitution legal
have you seen people taking their car and hitting people in the road? and there are many people that play car theft auto.

if playing a video game is dangerous then training police officers and army is what???? maybe we should also watch them.

a video game may trigger someone yes but that someone is already gone from other aspects. someone who spent all the day in home playing games you call him a nerd but have you seen a nerd going out to kill people.

why these people are pushed in the breaking point and from whom
thats the only thing to be investigated.

so if that person ask a woman out and she replies you are gross go kill yourself i would never go out with you and ... and this is not the first time that happened to him. you know women and men have a right to choose with whom to be but they do not have a right to be a completely asshole when they do it.

having minority report or a controlled society is good and that what we want
but nazi were bad!?!??!?!?
 
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