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bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
he's an ignorant self-important ass.

the real question is "would you allow your adult child to sacrifice himself for this cause" to which I?m sure o'rilly would say "i wouldn't try to stop him from doing his duty to the nation"
O'Reilly dodged the question, though, didn't he? He never did answer that yes or no.

Conjur twisting again I see, he was never posed the question in that fashion, instead Moore in his ignorant fat headed usual way just kept repeating the same "would you send your kid over there"...you have to remember that EVERYONE being sent over there signed up of their own volition for military service.....now if there were a draft and people were mandated as they were in Vietnam Moore might have a leg to stand on, but again these are people who volunteered to serve their country for whatever reason be it civic duty, financial or legacy....I know if I had a child and they had enlisted in the Army and they wanted to go over and fight then I would have no qualms of letting them go as I know it would be their decision. Moore was the only one dodging questions in that interview, always good to see him look like the partisan hack that he is though.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
oreilly said that the reason for the iraq invasion was to remove an evil dictatorship that killed thousands of his own people.


question to him, why did we not invade china to remove evil leaders? Remember Tiananmen square? Many of the young students beging for freedom struck down in their youth by their rulers. but no invasion or government change from the US.

Or North Korea, or Cuba and on and on. Oh and that Dictator named WMD, don't forget about him.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
he's an ignorant self-important ass.

the real question is "would you allow your adult child to sacrifice himself for this cause" to which I?m sure o'rilly would say "i wouldn't try to stop him from doing his duty to the nation"
O'Reilly dodged the question, though, didn't he? He never did answer that yes or no.

Conjur twisting again I see, he was never posed the question in that fashion, instead Moore in his ignorant fat headed usual way just kept repeating the same "would you send your kid over there"...you have to remember that EVERYONE being sent over there signed up of their own volition for military service.....now if there were a draft and people were mandated as they were in Vietnam Moore might have a leg to stand on, but again these are people who volunteered to serve their country for whatever reason be it civic duty, financial or legacy....I know if I had a child and they had enlisted in the Army and they wanted to go over and fight then I would have no qualms of letting them go as I know it would be their decision. Moore was the only one dodging questions in that interview, always good to see him look like the partisan hack that he is though.

Oh?

M: Right, I would not sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah and you would?

O: I would sacrifice myself.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
Oh?

M: Right, I would not sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah and you would?

O: I would sacrifice myself.

Conjur you just proved my point, thanks.....


read what you wrote and then read this:

the real question is "would you allow your adult child to sacrifice himself for this cause" to which I?m sure o'rilly would say "i wouldn't try to stop him from doing his duty to the nation"

What Moore was getting at was O'Reilly making the call for his kid...big difference than what Lord wrote....if you cannot see that then I guess basic comprehension is not one of your strongpoints.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
You're arguing semantics and you know it.

not at all...again no ones "Kids" were sent to war, there was no draft, everyone was of age to enlist and everyone enlisted of their own volition....if there is a big difference between my forcing my kid to serve and my kid signing up for the service on their own and choosing to serve..I myself would be reluctant to perform the former no matter what the cause however the latter I would have no problem with if that is what they decided to do.

Your argument is weak conjur, come back with something of substance instead of just kissing moore's ass.
 

conjur

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They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!

maybe you should take some of your own advice...you complain that I am arguing semantics and yet you do the same thing.

Sure they were sent to war, but none of them were forced to serve, none of them were drafted, they all chose a career in the military...they all could have backed out and been court marshalled if they decided to.

its called a clue conjur, you might want to try getting one.
 

TheBDB

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that IS why they are talking points after all, to educate the ignorant.

Talking points aren't used to educate, they are used to drive a slanted opinion into people's minds through repetition.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: conjur
They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!
maybe you should take some of your own advice...you complain that I am arguing semantics and yet you do the same thing.

Sure they were sent to war, but none of them were forced to serve, none of them were drafted, they all chose a career in the military...they all could have backed out and been court marshalled if they decided to.

its called a clue conjur, you might want to try getting one.
Thank you for admitting they were SENT to war. An UNJUST war. A war they didn't choose to fight in. A war they are dying for in vain. I have the utmost respect for our troops to soldier on in these times of feckless leadership.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: conjur
They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!

maybe you should take some of your own advice...you complain that I am arguing semantics and yet you do the same thing.

Sure they were sent to war, but none of them were forced to serve, none of them were drafted, they all chose a career in the military...they all could have backed out and been court marshalled if they decided to.

its called a clue conjur, you might want to try getting one.

yet their comitment to the military is to defend our country, not to go around invading others.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: conjur
They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!
maybe you should take some of your own advice...you complain that I am arguing semantics and yet you do the same thing.

Sure they were sent to war, but none of them were forced to serve, none of them were drafted, they all chose a career in the military...they all could have backed out and been court marshalled if they decided to.

its called a clue conjur, you might want to try getting one.
Thank you for admitting they were SENT to war. An UNJUST war. A war they didn't choose to fight in. A war they are dying for in vain. I have the utmost respect for our troops to soldier on in these times of feckless leadership.
Good God you're dense....we have a volunteer military in this country. The people that join up do so knowing they could be sent into battle at any moment. You don't fill out a card upon joining that says CHECK HERE IF YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO TO WAR AND ARE ONLY JOINING BECAUSE YOU WERE BORED. Damn man.....come back to reality. You have swung so far out there you are staring to sound like Dave.

By the way.....you owe me a dollar for using my "you are arguing semantics" line...remember I used it on you the other day.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: conjur
They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!

maybe you should take some of your own advice...you complain that I am arguing semantics and yet you do the same thing.

Sure they were sent to war, but none of them were forced to serve, none of them were drafted, they all chose a career in the military...they all could have backed out and been court marshalled if they decided to.

its called a clue conjur, you might want to try getting one.

yet their comitment to the military is to defend our country, not to go around invading others.
So defending the country means staying on our own soil? Hmmmm.....that's some good thinking.

:roll:
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
Thank you for admitting they were SENT to war. An UNJUST war. A war they didn't choose to fight in. A war they are dying for in vain. I have the utmost respect for our troops to soldier on in these times of feckless leadership.

Now you are pulling a hardcore Moore and going so far as to put words in my mouth...again quote where I say "unjust" and or a war they didn't "choose" to fight? ....keep that BS flying though, it is getting good in here.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
yet their comitment to the military is to defend our country, not to go around invading others.

so says you....had this been WWII and Hitler would you have said the same thing?...I think not.
 

conjur

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I never said you said it was an unjust or they didn't choose to fight. Those were *my* words. Are you that mentally crippled you cannot comprehend what I just wrote?
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: conjur
I never said you said it was an unjust or they didn't choose to fight. Those were *my* words. Are you that mentally crippled you cannot comprehend what I just wrote?
I'm quickly losing all respect for you.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
yet their comitment to the military is to defend our country, not to go around invading others.
so says you....had this been WWII and Hitler would you have said the same thing?...I think not.
LMAO!!

Resorting to comparing Iraq to WWII? Wow.


The two wars are nowhere near to being close in comparison.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
yet their comitment to the military is to defend our country, not to go around invading others.
so says you....had this been WWII and Hitler would you have said the same thing?...I think not.
LMAO!!

Resorting to comparing Iraq to WWII? Wow.


The two wars are nowhere near to being close in comparison.
His point is valid. Snowman made a reference to defending the country not involving invading other countries. boazk simply pointed out the folly in that belief by using the best possible example. You know the old saying.....the best defense is a good offense.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
I never said you said it was an unjust or they didn't choose to fight. Those were *my* words. Are you that mentally crippled you cannot comprehend what I just wrote?

Sorry, must be your horrible composition skills, as from reading this....


Thank you for admitting they were SENT to war. An UNJUST war. A war they didn't choose to fight in. A war they are dying for in vain. I have the utmost respect for our troops to soldier on in these times of feckless leadership.

it appears as if you were suggesting I was agreeing with all of this crap.

how old are you conjur?
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: conjur
Resorting to comparing Iraq to WWII? Wow.


The two wars are nowhere near to being close in comparison.

comprehension, comprehension, comprehension.....

it was not a "comparison" of the two conflicts but rather a response to this statement:

yet their comitment to the military is to defend our country, not to go around invading others.

but I don't expect you to grasp matters which require the minimum level of understanding.
 

conjur

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LMAO!!!!

You are SO stretching bozack.

This is some funny sh*t!!


LOL!!!!


Thanks for the laughs!
 

Ozoned

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I could be wrong but I would say conjur got his ass owned by bozack.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: conjur
They weren't sent to war? They all voluntarily got on planes and ships and went into Iraq on their volition? They weren't ordered into battle?


THINK!!

This is purely anecdotal, but anyone I personally know who is/was in Iraq had no problems going to Iraq. Anyone I've spoken to who has been their first hand has said that the people are nothing like the ungrateful people portrayed in the media that we see every day and they have no problem with there being no WMD's found since they've seen first hand what their intervention in the Saddam regime has given the Iraqi people.

Of course that's not a word for word dictation but I think you see my point. Yes, they were sent to war. But yes, at least the people I personally know, did so voluntarily without reservation. Well, other than whatever reservation one might have knowing that they are going to be part of the first wave and taking the brunt of the fire.
 
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