Original Gas Thread: Americans enjoying $4 gallon despite oil oversupply highest in 8 yrs

[dmcowen674]

This is to watch businesses fail seeing trickle down actually work :thumbsup:

People are cutting back every way they can think of.

People no longer spending money going out to lunch or dinner will kill those Industries thumbsup;

Businesses closing down because they would have to spend more money on employees that cannot afford to commute thumbsup;

8-18-2005 Commuters seek ways to cover rising gas prices

Rising gasoline prices have some workers searching for ways to curb costs, from ditching their cars to taking the subway to quitting jobs to find work closer to home.

Kevin Rudden, 51, left his job to work closer to home. He had been driving 30 to 40 miles a day each way. His commute now is 10 miles door to door. He had been spending more than $100 a week on gas. Now, it's $35.

"Every time the cost of gas went up, I took a pay cut," says Rudden, at public relations firm Kel & Partners in Hopkinton, Mass. "I can't go to my boss and say I need a raise because the cost of gas is up."

 

[dmcowen674]

This article is dedicated to the Elitists on P&N that swore that you would never re-coup the cost of buying a Hybrid:

8-20-2005 Tax credit worth up to $3,400 adds incentive to buying hybrid

Here's how the difference works out: Ford's suggested retail price for the 2005 V6 Escape hybrid is $28,525, $2,980 more than the gasoline-powered V6 Escape.

Linkov estimates, based on tests he performed and an assumed $3.00-per-gallon cost for gasoline, that you'd save $769 in fuel costs annually driving 15,000 miles per year.
The estimated tax credit for the V6 Escape is $1,950.

Using these figures, it would take about 16 months to recoup the hybrid's higher price.

 

[zendari]

This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

And it is also going to be a completely new "scaled down" design. It is supposed to be MUCH Smaller. (not sure if escape size, but definitely hearing smaller. Not sure if my company has that one or not).

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

wife and I are planning for a Toyota Highlander hybrid in a few years

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

wife and I are planning for a Toyota Highlander hybrid in a few years

jumbo shrimp is still shrimp.

BTW, hybrids do very little to current demand. If you put 1 million hybrids in today on the road and replace 1 million gas guzzlers, you have a net savings of 49,600 barrels of oil per day. This is a paltry amount compared to how much is consumed (20,500,000 barrels per day). It might push oil down a cent or two. Consider that ANWR would probably only push down the price of oil by 50 cents.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

And it is also going to be a completely new "scaled down" design. It is supposed to be MUCH Smaller. (not sure if escape size, but definitely hearing smaller. Not sure if my company has that one or not).

And people will still complain about it being a gas guzzling suv.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

wife and I are planning for a Toyota Highlander hybrid in a few years

jumbo shrimp is still shrimp.

BTW, hybrids do very little to current demand. If you put 1 million hybrids in today on the road and replace 1 million gas guzzlers, you have a net savings of 49,600 barrels of oil per day. This is a paltry amount compared to how much is consumed (20,500,000 barrels per day). It might push oil down a cent or two. Consider that ANWR would probably only push down the price of oil by 50 cents.

And lets suppose that over the next decade that most of the cars in the US become hybrids and fleet mpg rises by 50%, would you still call this trivial fuel savings?

 

[Zebo]

Somebody call the whabulance.. Last tme I checked gasholine was'nt nessesary for life.. Complain about heathcare fine.. food fine but gas is purley a luxury item IMO.

Hey dave you go to the oil&gas property auctions in Houston like I advised you to?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Somebody call the whabulance.. Last tme I checked gasholine was'nt nessesary for life.. Complain about heathcare fine.. food fine but gas is purley a luxury item IMO.

True, but gas does affect the cost of everything that is produced, so it not like you can completely insulate yourself from the high cost of energy.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Somebody call the whabulance.. Last tme I checked gasholine was'nt nessesary for life.. Complain about heathcare fine.. food fine but gas is purley a luxury item IMO.

Hey dave you go to the oil&gas property auctions in Houston like I advised you to?

What auctions?

What exactly are they auctioning off?

 

[dmcowen674]

Petition to Shut Nascar down during Gas Crisis

Since we are clearly in a Gas crisis I propose that Nascar be shut down until the crisis passes, if ever.

The huge amount of fuel wasted transporting the cars and crews, the waste of the race itself and the wasted fuel by all of the spectators would certainly put a dent in the strain on the gas reserves since Refineries cannot keep up as reported.

 

[zendari]

Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

Absolutely

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

First off that is a logical fallacy, I should add it to the thread...

Nascar doesn't rank near as important as medicare.

PS. Shame on you Dave for supporting such a cause.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

First off that is a logical fallacy, I should add it to the thread...

Nascar doesn't rank near as important as medicare.

PS. Shame on you Dave for supporting such a cause.

Which, shutting down Nascar or Government Healthcare???

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

Absolutely

I agree with this idea...let those old Red State farts and their families feel the burden of the Republican's credit card economic policies.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: zendari
This is great news. Hybrids should be a viable alternative to regular cars.

Maybe there will be less foolish gaswhiners who don't give a sh!t about the environment and feel entitled to cheap plentiful gas driving big SUVs around after this development.

Dont worry, when they start making large SUV hybrids people will bitch about them. I beleive dodge is planing a durango hybrd for 2007.

wife and I are planning for a Toyota Highlander hybrid in a few years

jumbo shrimp is still shrimp.

BTW, hybrids do very little to current demand. If you put 1 million hybrids in today on the road and replace 1 million gas guzzlers, you have a net savings of 49,600 barrels of oil per day. This is a paltry amount compared to how much is consumed (20,500,000 barrels per day). It might push oil down a cent or two. Consider that ANWR would probably only push down the price of oil by 50 cents.

And lets suppose that over the next decade that most of the cars in the US become hybrids and fleet mpg rises by 50%, would you still call this trivial fuel savings?

No, but it's still a bandaid (not that I don't support it...I do). It slows "growth" of consumption, one that will still grow due to world thrist for oil (other than US too). Alternative energy is going to be needed at some time. My lifetime? Maybe, maybe not (who knows, there may be a huge discovery of oil or something), but regardless, oil, unless made (Changing World Tech, etc), is going to be unsustainable.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

Absolutely

I agree with this idea...let those old Red State farts and their families feel the burden of the Republican's credit card economic policies.

No pain, no gain but that is for a different thread. Back to topic.

When will Refining capacity be able to meet demand?

How come Gas stations are not running out of gas during this refining crisis???

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Nascar doesn't rank near as important as medicare.

That depends on who you ask I suppose.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

Absolutely

I agree with this idea...let those old Red State farts and their families feel the burden of the Republican's credit card economic policies.

No pain, no gain but that is for a different thread. Back to topic.

When will Refining capacity be able to meet demand?

How come Gas stations are not running out of gas during this refining crisis???

Probably because refinary capacity is tight, but not maxed out. Also we do import gas....

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

Absolutely

I agree with this idea...let those old Red State farts and their families feel the burden of the Republican's credit card economic policies.

No pain, no gain but that is for a different thread. Back to topic.

When will Refining capacity be able to meet demand?

How come Gas stations are not running out of gas during this refining crisis???

Probably because refinary capacity is tight, but not maxed out. Also we do import gas....

Ah, so then you agree with me that if we cut out unneccesary and wasteful Gas binging like Nascar refinery capacity would not be as "tight".

Thanks :thumbsup: , did you sign the Petition yet???

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari
Since we are in a fiscal crisis with a sizable defecit, can we shut down medicare until that's paid off too?

Absolutely

I agree with this idea...let those old Red State farts and their families feel the burden of the Republican's credit card economic policies.

No pain, no gain but that is for a different thread. Back to topic.

When will Refining capacity be able to meet demand?

How come Gas stations are not running out of gas during this refining crisis???

Probably because refinary capacity is tight, but not maxed out. Also we do import gas....

LOL, because of all the ethanol we produce. If it weren't for ethanol, gas stations would be running out of fuel all the time.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LOL, because of all the ethanol we produce. If it weren't for ethanol, gas stations would be running out of fuel all the time.

The US produced 80,952,380 barrels of ethanol last year. That is approximately 4 days worth of fuel for the US. Hardly a panacea to keep the US stations from running out.

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