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4537256

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Originally posted by: blurredvision

With that said, I like W7. Not sure if it'll be worth the upgrade or not at this point. But I'm a tech-head, so we'll see what the price will be when it gets closer to release later this year.

i'm with you on that. price will make the difference for me. it'll be a better Vista, but hard to swallow paying a similar price for what MS screwed up on
 
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Originally posted by: 4537256
Originally posted by: blurredvision

With that said, I like W7. Not sure if it'll be worth the upgrade or not at this point. But I'm a tech-head, so we'll see what the price will be when it gets closer to release later this year.

i'm with you on that. price will make the difference for me. it'll be a better Vista, but hard to swallow paying a similar price for what MS screwed up on

Ya, I made the mistake of buying Vista Ultimate, and what a waste of money that was. I definitely should've went with Home Premium. I'll wait for word on packages and pricing...until then, I'll enjoy checking out W7.
 

shpongle

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Ya, I made the mistake of buying Vista Ultimate, and what a waste of money that was. I definitely should've went with Home Premium. I'll wait for word on packages and pricing...until then, I'll enjoy checking out W7.

Sometimes you just have to put off updating. Just like waiting out ME and the early days of XP with 98SE->XP SP1, or sticking with Northwood until C2D. Live and learn I guess.
 

VIAN

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I still can't find a use for those Libraries. It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sure there are some of you that can benefit from it, and I agree that it can be useful in certain situations, but making the whole User Folder Library-based is a bit much. It's nice that I have a Libarary in the first level of folders, but what about in the 2nd level of folders. You are only allowed to create Libararies in one location and it bugs me that I can't figure out a system that works for me, but they expect me to user theirs.

One thing that I dislike most about all versions of Windows is how you can't customize it. MS forces you to use whatever they feel like, such as Libraries. All they had to do is put a bunch of videos on the desktop on how to use the new features. I learn by example, but they don't... I'm talking ahead of myself. This is a beta. In Vista, they tried to force me to use those premade folders. I don't like those. For instance, I don't download things into a download folder, I download it to the desktop so that it can be taken care of. Whatever.

In the navigation pane in windows Vista, I used to be able to put shortcuts there, but no longer. Libraries has taken over and links are no longer possible.

By the way, I noticed Firefox 3, made to look good with Vista, didn't look very Windows 7, with its flatter look, so I went searching and found a nice skin that I think matches it. It's called Chromifox 1.0. Check it out - its damn sexy.
 

jlee

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I like it. Running x64 now- coming from WinXP Pro x32.

It took a little thinking to get online-- ran the Vista x64 driver installation in compatibility mode as administrator and it worked..wouldn't if I just tried installing normally. Other than that..not bad! I really like the interface..takes some getting used to (things are more like Vista than XP, and I have very limited experience with Vista)..but I'm happy so far.
 

4537256

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Nov 30, 2008
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Originally posted by: VIAN
I still can't find a use for those Libraries. It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sure there are some of you that can benefit from it, and I agree that it can be useful in certain situations, but making the whole User Folder Library-based is a bit much. It's nice that I have a Libarary in the first level of folders, but what about in the 2nd level of folders. You are only allowed to create Libararies in one location and it bugs me that I can't figure out a system that works for me, but they expect me to user theirs.

One thing that I dislike most about all versions of Windows is how you can't customize it. MS forces you to use whatever they feel like, such as Libraries. All they had to do is put a bunch of videos on the desktop on how to use the new features. I learn by example, but they don't... I'm talking ahead of myself. This is a beta. In Vista, they tried to force me to use those premade folders. I don't like those. For instance, I don't download things into a download folder, I download it to the desktop so that it can be taken care of. Whatever.

In the navigation pane in windows Vista, I used to be able to put shortcuts there, but no longer. Libraries has taken over and links are no longer possible.

By the way, I noticed Firefox 3, made to look good with Vista, didn't look very Windows 7, with its flatter look, so I went searching and found a nice skin that I think matches it. It's called Chromifox 1.0. Check it out - its damn sexy.

i dont understand libraries myself nor what i can do with it, to me it just looks like regular folders that are grouped a bit more? thats a feature?
 

soonerproud

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Jun 30, 2007
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Originally posted by: 4537256
i dont understand libraries myself nor what i can do with it, to me it just looks like regular folders that are grouped a bit more? thats a feature?

What libraries do is provide one location to access all your shared files across the network and even amongst differing users on the same computer. For example, you are wanting to play a song your son owns, exist on a networked pc and is shared. Instead of navigating to and searching his shared folders you simply go to your music library icon in Explorer and the song will be listed amongst your stuff. Libraries allows files that are in different locations appear all in one spot for easier searching and access.

Remember all the complaints people lodge at Vista for excluding WinFS? It is this functionality, along with improved searching that WinFS was all about.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: VIAN
I still can't find a use for those Libraries. It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sure there are some of you that can benefit from it, and I agree that it can be useful in certain situations, but making the whole User Folder Library-based is a bit much. It's nice that I have a Libarary in the first level of folders, but what about in the 2nd level of folders. You are only allowed to create Libararies in one location and it bugs me that I can't figure out a system that works for me, but they expect me to user theirs.

One thing that I dislike most about all versions of Windows is how you can't customize it. MS forces you to use whatever they feel like, such as Libraries. All they had to do is put a bunch of videos on the desktop on how to use the new features. I learn by example, but they don't... I'm talking ahead of myself. This is a beta. In Vista, they tried to force me to use those premade folders. I don't like those. For instance, I don't download things into a download folder, I download it to the desktop so that it can be taken care of. Whatever.

In the navigation pane in windows Vista, I used to be able to put shortcuts there, but no longer. Libraries has taken over and links are no longer possible.

By the way, I noticed Firefox 3, made to look good with Vista, didn't look very Windows 7, with its flatter look, so I went searching and found a nice skin that I think matches it. It's called Chromifox 1.0. Check it out - its damn sexy.

If you have a file server, libraries are a brilliant new edition. Makes using your server to store everthing a billion times easier.
 

jalaram

Lifer
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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: 4537256
Originally posted by: blurredvision

With that said, I like W7. Not sure if it'll be worth the upgrade or not at this point. But I'm a tech-head, so we'll see what the price will be when it gets closer to release later this year.

i'm with you on that. price will make the difference for me. it'll be a better Vista, but hard to swallow paying a similar price for what MS screwed up on

Ya, I made the mistake of buying Vista Ultimate, and what a waste of money that was. I definitely should've went with Home Premium. I'll wait for word on packages and pricing...until then, I'll enjoy checking out W7.

I wanted Media Center and RDP which only meant Ultimate for me.

Yes, I know about VNC, but I like RDP better.
 

Aberforth

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Oct 12, 2006
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Do you people think that Vista Ultimate retail users who had paid $400-$450 for a license deserve Windows 7 for free or at a discounted price?
 

raddreamer3kx

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Originally posted by: Aberforth
Do you people think that Vista Ultimate retail users who had paid $400-$450 for a license deserve Windows 7 for free or at a discounted price?

no, its a upgrade from previous windows os's, almost everything in tech gets upgraded sooner rather then later. If you purchase a car one year and the upgraded/ newer version comes out two years later do you think you should get the upgraded car for free or at a discount?
 

Scotteq

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Added a second 7200.11 HDD, and Dual Boot installed on the same machine as Vista 64.

Did a clean install from the Technet file (i.e. No Vista at all - even unplugged the original HDD).

The good: Easily the simplest install I've done. Start the computer with the disc in the drive, go make a cup of coffee, come back and answer the questions, and go watch TV. I come back, it's done and working. Maybe a half an hour, total, from blank start to booted Win 7. Reach out, grab the Media Player Patch, Win 7 drivers from ATI, and Vista drivers for my Auzentech Prelude. The chipset drivers from DFI wouldn't install - They 'detected an unsupported OS' and aborted. So I reached out to Intel, grabbed the standard P35 driver set, and pointed the Device Manager at the folder... Done deal. All detected, all reported as working. Job done.

I like the UI, though whoever chose the defaults probably mis~clicked... I like the much improved troubleshooting tools. It's clearly snappier than Vista in general usage. And my totally un-scientific testing says it's equal to better than Vista while gaming.

Haven't found any real 'cons', except it's demonstrating to me it's Beta status by randomly locking and forcing a hard reset. Not often - Once or maybe twice a day. Vista doesn't do that, and it's the exact same hardware. The troubleshooting tools don't show anything, except the restart error. A blue screen would be preferable, TBH, cos then I'd have something to work with. At this point, I suspect an issue between the generic intel drivers and my DFI mobo, though, rather than something with 7.
 

Aberforth

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Oct 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: raddreamer3kx
Originally posted by: Aberforth
Do you people think that Vista Ultimate retail users who had paid $400-$450 for a license deserve Windows 7 for free or at a discounted price?

no, its a upgrade from previous windows os's, almost everything in tech gets upgraded sooner rather then later. If you purchase a car one year and the upgraded/ newer version comes out two years later do you think you should get the upgraded car for free or at a discount?

But when you look at the price of the product, do you think MS delivered on those promises? There are a bunch of stuff that didn't work out quite as good even though Vista was the best windows desktop OS, personally I think Vista Ultimate version was a bad idea, I think they should have made only two versions, $400 is a premium price to pay for a limited set of features that are problematic in some cases. Again do you think that one should pay 400 for a fixed version of windows with UI enhancements.
 

VIAN

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Windows 7 includes its own wallpaper changer. Although it's not obvious, its a cool addition.
 
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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: VIAN
I still can't find a use for those Libraries. It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm sure there are some of you that can benefit from it, and I agree that it can be useful in certain situations, but making the whole User Folder Library-based is a bit much. It's nice that I have a Libarary in the first level of folders, but what about in the 2nd level of folders. You are only allowed to create Libararies in one location and it bugs me that I can't figure out a system that works for me, but they expect me to user theirs.

One thing that I dislike most about all versions of Windows is how you can't customize it. MS forces you to use whatever they feel like, such as Libraries. All they had to do is put a bunch of videos on the desktop on how to use the new features. I learn by example, but they don't... I'm talking ahead of myself. This is a beta. In Vista, they tried to force me to use those premade folders. I don't like those. For instance, I don't download things into a download folder, I download it to the desktop so that it can be taken care of. Whatever.

In the navigation pane in windows Vista, I used to be able to put shortcuts there, but no longer. Libraries has taken over and links are no longer possible.

By the way, I noticed Firefox 3, made to look good with Vista, didn't look very Windows 7, with its flatter look, so I went searching and found a nice skin that I think matches it. It's called Chromifox 1.0. Check it out - its damn sexy.

If you have a file server, libraries are a brilliant new edition. Makes using your server to store everthing a billion times easier.

Libraries seem to be the virtual folders concept they announced and subsequently pulled from Vista long ago. Looked intriguing back then, but now that I have my hands on it, it does seem as if BD's comment here is correct--they are more useful for accessing files across networks than they are for mainly single-computer environments. For me, I have a laptop in addition to my main computer, but I don't really share files between them. However, at work, these libraries would be awesome for my productivity.
 

ChronoReverse

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: VIAN
Windows 7 includes its own wallpaper changer. Although it's not obvious, its a cool addition.

What exactly are you talking about?

When you select your wallpaper you'll notice checkboxes for each one. If you select more than one it'll turn into a slideshow.
 

Innamoramento

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Originally posted by: ChronoReverse
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: VIAN
Windows 7 includes its own wallpaper changer. Although it's not obvious, its a cool addition.

What exactly are you talking about?

When you select your wallpaper you'll notice checkboxes for each one. If you select more than one it'll turn into a slideshow.

Yep.. Now you don't need third party app to do it..

And from the tips:

Win7 is probably going to have localized themes and wallpapers...
It's hidden now and some are just place holders.
Paste this into the explorer:

C:\Windows\Globalization\MCT
 

Snapster

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Originally posted by: Innamoramento

Yep.. Now you don't need third party app to do it..

And from the tips:

Win7 is probably going to have localized themes and wallpapers...
It's hidden now and some are just place holders.
Paste this into the explorer:

C:\Windows\Globalization\MCT

You can already download themes for different countries so it would make sense.
 

VIAN

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I Just had a thought. Instead of Libraries, can't you just create a folder of and put shortcuts in it from various locations. I think that would work. The only difference then would be the fact that you wouldn't be able to see the contents of multiple folders at once.
 

VIAN

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Aug 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: VIAN
Windows 7 includes its own wallpaper changer. Although it's not obvious, its a cool addition.

What exactly are you talking about?

How to setup Windows 7 wallpaper changer.

Right click on the Desktop and go to Personalize. Ignore the Themes window inside the Peronsalization window. Under the Themes window there are options to customize your currten theme. Those options are Desktop Background, Window Color, Sounds, and Screen Saver.

Click on Desktop Background to view the current wallpaper. Under Picture Location, use the Browse button to link your Wallpaper folder to your theme. Click Select all for the "slideshow" to happen and for options to appear below. Customize those options to your liking and Save Changes at the bottom.

You're Done!
 

SniperDaws

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Aug 14, 2007
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Well ive come from Vista 32bit and straight away it felt more responsive so i obtained another CD key and stuck Win 7 on my pretty slow now frontroom pc which is -

Opteron 146 @ Stock
Asrock Dual SATA2
2GB DDR ram
Nvidia 7600GT PCI Express

Now i was expecting it to chug along but OMG its faster than XP i had on it previous, now this had impressed me the most as i was getting fed up with how slow that pc was and now it has a new lease of life and is quicker than its ever been.

people with older Hardware should defo install this and give it a try cos they might be pleasantly suprised
 

4537256

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Nov 30, 2008
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Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Well ive come from Vista 32bit and straight away it felt more responsive so i obtained another CD key and stuck Win 7 on my pretty slow now frontroom pc which is -

Opteron 146 @ Stock
Asrock Dual SATA2
2GB DDR ram
Nvidia 7600GT PCI Express

Now i was expecting it to chug along but OMG its faster than XP i had on it previous, now this had impressed me the most as i was getting fed up with how slow that pc was and now it has a new lease of life and is quicker than its ever been.

people with older Hardware should defo install this and give it a try cos they might be pleasantly suprised

but what about against a fresh install of XP? xp performance degrades over time for most users. I have an SSD drive for OS installs so i cant really tell the speed differences of any OS.
 
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