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theMan

Diamond Member
Mar 17, 2005
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windows 2000 pro!!!! or possibly mac os x, but i havent had much experience with it, but what i have seen, i like.
 

Basie

Senior member
Feb 11, 2001
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I still mainly use WinXP Pro. Since SP2 I have had very few difficulties with it. But, I also like WinME
for some of my older games and lately LBA and Ark Linux are my favorite distros.
 

Wolfshanze

Senior member
Jan 21, 2005
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Its great to see that POS Windows 98/ME didn't get any votes!!
It's great to prove POS posters wrong!

Dual-Boot WinME + WinXP.

(and if POS posters could read, they'd find there are several dual-booters and people who do use WinME in this very thread).
 

Nothinman

Elite Member
Sep 14, 2001
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(and if POS posters could read, they'd find there are several dual-booters and people who do use WinME in this very thread).

I'd rather be someone who doesn't read the entire thread than someone who runs WinME.
 

Link19

Senior member
Apr 22, 2003
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It's great to prove POS posters wrong!

Dual-Boot WinME + WinXP.

(and if POS posters could read, they'd find there are several dual-booters and people who do use WinME in this very thread).

Call me a POS poster? I mean Windows 98/ME are POS for anything but running legacy simplistic Windows games and applications. In NO way should someone be using POS Windows 98/ME for the sole purpose of running applications produced in the last 4 years on hardware produced in the last 4 years. Windows 98/ME should have died for every prupose but running legacy applications as soon as Windows 2000/XP came out.
 

Wolfshanze

Senior member
Jan 21, 2005
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I'd rather be able to use ALL my games and software then someone forced to run one OS. That's why I dual-boot! Despite those that believe all of Bill Gates lies, WinXP does not run everything under the sun. There's plenty of programs that REQUIRE Win9X to run.

What did WinME do to you? Did it kill your mother or something? It's just an OS, nothing more. To blindly hate an OS and call it names is just ignorant. If it runs what you need it to run, then be happy.

I use WinXP more then WinME, but there are things I can't run in WinXP (compatibility mode doesn't work either), so I do spend some time in WinME so I can use all my software. Believe it or not, on a modern system fully patched, WinME runs very smooth. Maybe it sucked unpatched on a 400MHz P2, but I run it fully patched on a 3.0GHz P4 without any problems.
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
12,604
15
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If i could dual boot with 98SE i would but i dont know how. And the only CD i have came from some dodgy guy who actually stole my really old 486 (was only 11 at the time, didnt have the nerve to track him down and teach him a lesson) Having 98 or ME there could be useful for running somthing that simply dosent work under XP. Having it cant hurt, using it as a primary OS.. yea thatll hurt
 

Wolfshanze

Senior member
Jan 21, 2005
767
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Soviet, a lot of people will tell you to invest in this or that program or download special software to get a dual-boot system... that's all unnecessary fluff. All you need is a Win9X disc, a WinXP disc, and some spare time, nothing more.

It's best if you're doing this on a new HD or are willing to wipe an old one clean.
1) Setup the HD for two partitions using FDisk, then format the partitions... you'll end-up with a C: and D: drive.
2) Use your Win9X/ME disc and install the OS like you normally would on the C: drive.
3) Use your WinXP disc and install the OS onto the D: drive (do NOT "upgrade" your Win9X/ME install, that would blow your entire dual-boot setup), and while installing WinXP, feel free to convert the D-drive to NTFS format.

That's it... you're done... whenever you boot or reboot your computer you'll get a simple black and white screen that essentially says:
1) Boot WinXP
2) Boot Win9X/ME

All you do is choose 1 or 2 and that's it. Simple, elegant, effective.

There's ways to do a dual boot if you already have WinXP installed, but it gets more complicated and you will need third-party software if you don't want to lose your current WinXP setup.

The method I described doesn't cost a nickle if you already have both OS CDs, and it's actually quite simple to do. If you have old games and software that doesn't run on WinXP, I strongly urge a dual-boot if you'd still like access to that software. You lose nothing but a little HD space and you gain total flexibility... you can also do as much as you want in either OS... I spend most of my time in WinXP, but for those days I need WinME, I can simply boot to it instead.
 

Nothinman

Elite Member
Sep 14, 2001
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I'd rather be able to use ALL my games and software then someone forced to run one OS.

No one is forcing you to run anything, but running WinME just to play some old games isn't worth the hassle to most people. WinME is crap, always has been.
 

Wolfshanze

Senior member
Jan 21, 2005
767
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No one is forcing you to run anything, but running WinME just to play some old games isn't worth the hassle to most people. WinME is crap, always has been.
And no one is forcing you to insult people simply because what they choose to do is differant then what you do.

Maybe I think using only one OS and having my options to play some of my favorite games eliminated in the process is crap. Frankly, I'd rather stab my eyes out then limit myself from playing the games I enjoy.

What I find most amusing is people feel the need to insult an OS they don't use and insult the people that choose to be differant simply because our priorities are differant from yours.

Is everybody on this forum 12-years old or something? You all act like it sometimes.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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2
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Originally posted by: Wolfshanze
And no one is forcing you to insult people simply because what they choose to do is differant then what you do.

Maybe I think using only one OS and having my options to play some of my favorite games eliminated in the process is crap. Frankly, I'd rather stab my eyes out then limit myself from playing the games I enjoy.

What I find most amusing is people feel the need to insult an OS they don't use and insult the people that choose to be differant simply because our priorities are differant from yours.

Is everybody on this forum 12-years old or something? You all act like it sometimes.

You are insulting everyone else yourself. If you can't take the heat, don't dish it.
 

Nothinman

Elite Member
Sep 14, 2001
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And no one is forcing you to insult people simply because what they choose to do is differant then what you do.

I made one minor comment _after_ you called someone else a POS, as Malk said if you can't take it, don't start.

Maybe I think using only one OS and having my options to play some of my favorite games eliminated in the process is crap. Frankly, I'd rather stab my eyes out then limit myself from playing the games I enjoy.

I must be getting old because I don't find games that important anymore, I'd rather use an OS that doesn't suck and play a game or two on a console when I'm bored on the weekends.

What I find most amusing is people feel the need to insult an OS they don't use and insult the people that choose to be differant simply because our priorities are differant from yours.

It's human nature to talk down on things they don't use, it makes them feel better about what they do use. But from a purely technological standpoint WinME is utter crap, it's a frankenstein OS created by MS to try and make Win9X look like it wasn't based on DOS anymore by hiding all of the low level stuff but they failed miserably.

Is everybody on this forum 12-years old or something? You all act like it sometimes.

You're the one who said games were your priority, so I would imagine you're the younger one here.
 

Link19

Senior member
Apr 22, 2003
971
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And no one is forcing you to insult people simply because what they choose to do is differant then what you do.

Maybe I think using only one OS and having my options to play some of my favorite games eliminated in the process is crap. Frankly, I'd rather stab my eyes out then limit myself from playing the games I enjoy.

What I find most amusing is people feel the need to insult an OS they don't use and insult the people that choose to be differant simply because our priorities are differant from yours.

Is everybody on this forum 12-years old or something? You all act like it sometimes.

What we fear is the hardware and software manufacturers continuing to support Windows 98/ME which shouldn't happen. Hardware and software manufacturers should have dropped Windows 98/ME support at least 3 years ago. Windows 98/ME should only be used for running legacy applications that flat out don't work in Windows 2000/XP. That is the only purpose they serve. It is totally pointless to run them for any other purpose on relatively modern hardware. Hardware and software manufacturers supporting them for this long has probably hurt performance and stability the lat 5 years. I hate Windows 9X and feel it should have never been made. I think Windows XP is a better chopice than Windows 2000, but you don't see people bashing Windows 2000 when people decide thay prefer to use it as their primary OS on modern hardware. That is because Windows 2000 is still a quality OS and based on NT. Windows 95/98/ME are by far the lauging stock of all operating systems advertised to be 32-bit with pre-emptive mylti-tasking.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
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Windows 2000 Professional. I'll upgrade to wither XP or Vista once my computer dies, so I don't waste a registration on it.

EDIT: Woah, what's with all the 98SE hate? That OS was awesome, even if it was a bit unstable.
 

Link19

Senior member
Apr 22, 2003
971
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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Windows 2000 Professional. I'll upgrade to wither XP or Vista once my computer dies, so I don't waste a registration on it.

EDIT: Woah, what's with all the 98SE hate? That OS was awesome, even if it was a bit unstable.



Windows 95/98/ME based operating systems were never awesome by any means. They were horrible compared to other 32-bit operating systems. Windows 95/98/ME aren't even real 32-bit operating systems. They are 16-bit operating systems with 32-bit extensions. I thought we 16-bit computing long ago. Its not the Windows 98SE hate. It is the hate for anything Windows 9X based inclduing 98SE. Windows 9X was crap compared to other 32-bit pre-emptive multi tasking operating systems.
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: Wolfshanze
Soviet, a lot of people will tell you to invest in this or that program or download special software to get a dual-boot system... that's all unnecessary fluff. All you need is a Win9X disc, a WinXP disc, and some spare time, nothing more.

It's best if you're doing this on a new HD or are willing to wipe an old one clean.
1) Setup the HD for two partitions using FDisk, then format the partitions... you'll end-up with a C: and D: drive.
2) Use your Win9X/ME disc and install the OS like you normally would on the C: drive.
3) Use your WinXP disc and install the OS onto the D: drive (do NOT "upgrade" your Win9X/ME install, that would blow your entire dual-boot setup), and while installing WinXP, feel free to convert the D-drive to NTFS format.

That's it... you're done... whenever you boot or reboot your computer you'll get a simple black and white screen that essentially says:
1) Boot WinXP
2) Boot Win9X/ME

All you do is choose 1 or 2 and that's it. Simple, elegant, effective.

There's ways to do a dual boot if you already have WinXP installed, but it gets more complicated and you will need third-party software if you don't want to lose your current WinXP setup.

The method I described doesn't cost a nickle if you already have both OS CDs, and it's actually quite simple to do. If you have old games and software that doesn't run on WinXP, I strongly urge a dual-boot if you'd still like access to that software. You lose nothing but a little HD space and you gain total flexibility... you can also do as much as you want in either OS... I spend most of my time in WinXP, but for those days I need WinME, I can simply boot to it instead.

Ta dude. Im tryin to do it without formatting the drive, but ive got a second hdd lying around i can use for backup just in case it dont work out. Im also gonna give installing linux a shot, so i should get a choice of 3 os's
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
12,604
15
81
Originally posted by: Link19
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Windows 2000 Professional. I'll upgrade to wither XP or Vista once my computer dies, so I don't waste a registration on it.

EDIT: Woah, what's with all the 98SE hate? That OS was awesome, even if it was a bit unstable.



Windows 95/98/ME based operating systems were never awesome by any means. They were horrible compared to other 32-bit operating systems. Windows 95/98/ME aren't even real 32-bit operating systems. They are 16-bit operating systems with 32-bit extensions. I thought we 16-bit computing long ago. Its not the Windows 98SE hate. It is the hate for anything Windows 9X based inclduing 98SE. Windows 9X was crap compared to other 32-bit pre-emptive multi tasking operating systems.

So? They did the job. X86-64 is the same old x86 with 64 bit extensions, it does the job. Back when i used 98/ME they were fine tbh. XP is far superior, and im glad it came along but tbh i didnt think "i hate this goddamn OS!" every time i started up with ME. It was easy to re-install too helped things a lot.
 

kobymu

Senior member
Mar 21, 2005
576
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And for all you flame war addicts ?

/:evil: mode
windowsNT is and will probably be the only Microsoft operating system that have good performances AND low overhead
/:evil: mode off

 

Nothinman

Elite Member
Sep 14, 2001
30,672
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0
windowsNT is and will probably be the only Microsoft operating system that have good performances AND low overhead

Of course you realize that XP is simply NT 5.1, right?
 

kobymu

Senior member
Mar 21, 2005
576
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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Of course you realize that XP is simply NT 5.1, right?

right.

my 2nd main rig is NT 5.

/edit

and of course you realize that i was talking about NT 4, right?
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
14,696
2
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Originally posted by: Nothinman
windowsNT is and will probably be the only Microsoft operating system that have good performances AND low overhead

Of course you realize that XP is simply NT 5.1, right?

And you can turn the overhead off pretty easily.
 
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