Osama bin Laden is dead

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Pocatello

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Oct 11, 1999
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There will always be a Cliff Claven who believes his neighbor is Adolf Hitler and leaching on the welfare system.
 

7window

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Fact is we don't have to prove he's dead. If he's not dead the benefits to Al Qaeda to show proof of life publicly would be huuuuge. The fact they cannot/willnot proves he's dead.


Are you serious? al queda does not have to prove anything. They haven't for years.
 

Homerboy

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Mar 1, 2000
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There will always be a Cliff Claven who believes his neighbor is Adolf Hitler and leaching on the welfare system.

Hmmm did Cliffy wear a tin foil hat? I just recall him being a fountain of (made up) useless trivia facts.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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If pictures couldn't be so easily faked, then I'd agree....

Boomer's first paragraph sums it up for me. It just doesn't make sense why they did it that way. Doesn't mean I believe in that conspiracy though. Just don't get their actions.

Actually, it makes perfect sense that they did it that way.
 

PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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interesting:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/02/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/


Osama bin Laden's body was buried at sea according to Islamic law because no country was willing or able to take his body for burial on land, senior Defense officials said.

"When there is no land alternative, Islamic law dictates that the body be buried within 24 hours, and that was the basis," one official said. "

A second senior Defense official said there was no country willing or able to accept the body for burial, and U.S. forces "took pains to observe Muslim law."

"Today's religious rites were conducted on the deck of the USS Carl Vinson in the Arabian sea. The ceremony started at 1:10am and finished at 2:10am ET," the second official said. "Procedures for Islamic body were followed. The body was washed and placed in a white sheet. A military official read prepared remarks, which were then translated into Arabic by a native speaker. The body of Osama bin Laden was placed on a flat board, which was then tipped up, and allowed to slide into the sea."
 

zinfamous

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Or, they could view him as a martyr and convince a younger generation to avenge his death by furthering jihad against America.

How is this different form them martyring anyone else, and using it as an excuse to keep killing?

You do realize that his death is a null factor in their willingness to terrorize?

The only rational course is for him to be dead--not a living spectacle to bark nonsense and issue public pleas from behind bars, or in a joke of a trial. he would be made a clown, a puppet, and a very dangerous one at that.

I doubt you will find a single expert in terrorism suggesting that bin Laden is more dangerous dead than alive; and further, that putting him on trial would have been the proper decision.

that would be the worst case scenario.
 

Pocatello

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Donald Trump is going to say all this is a lie, where is the body? Where is the death certificate?
 

Josh

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[Updated 12:27 p.m. ET] Senior defense officials said that for a majority of the 40 minute operation at the Abbottobad compound, special forces were involved in a firefight - clearing their way through two other floors before they reached Osama bin Laden.

Bin Laden was not killed until the last five to ten minutes of the firefight, officials said.


Bin Laden and his family lived on the 2nd and 3rd floors of the 3-story building, and those floors were cleared last, the official said. The official says one of bin Laden’s own wives identified his body to U.S. forces, after the team made visual identification themselves.

U.S. forces also recovered what a senior Intelligence official is calling “quite a bit of material.”

“There’s a robust collection of materials we need to sift through, and we hope to find valuable intelligence that will lead us to other players in al Qaeda," a senior intelligence official said.

The official added a Task Force has been set up “because of the sheer volume of material collected. That material is currently being exploited and analyzed.”
 
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there really doesn't need to be proof

it would be massive egg on our face if Osama was still alive and comes out to prove he is still alive, and all at the risk of stressing relations with Pakistan...

Fact is we don't have to prove he's dead. If he's not dead the benefits to Al Qaeda to show proof of life publicly would be huuuuge. The fact they cannot/willnot proves he's dead.

This. If anyone was able to prove Osama was still alive (either in captivity or free) and it were to come out that the USA completely fabricated the entire thing, the backlash would be horrible, foreign and domestic. Just the fact that Obama feels confident enough to come on national television and tell people, point blank, that Osama is dead, is good enough for me.
 

ibex333

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So many people here are so dumb.... Osama Bin Laden is dead.... Whoopdeedoo! So fucking what? Big deal.... Do you really, honestly think this is going to make anything better? Do you think that now terrorists will never again blow up US or Israel? Maybe you foolishly think that they will somehow become disoriented without his leadership?

Wake up and smell the coffee. There are millions of Osama Bin Ladens out there. Every time you kill one a new one will take his place.

If anything, this even is actually good for the terrorists. They will martyr him, and use his name for inspiration to do more killing.

Also, I think it's retarded how they "buried him at sea". His head needs to be on a stake in front of the white house for everyone to see. And why the hell wouldn't they get him alive? That would have been much better.

Oh, and Osama rhymes with Obama.... (make what you will of that comment)
 
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Turin39789

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So many people here are so dumb.... Osama Bin Laden is dead.... Whoopdeedoo! So fucking what? Big deal.... Do you really, honestly think this is going to make anything better? Do you think that now terrorists will never again blow up US or Israel? Maybe you foolishly think that they will somehow become disoriented without his leadership?

Wake up and smell the coffee. There are millions of Osama Bin Ladens out there. Every time you kill one a new one will take his place.

If anything, this even is actually good for the terrorists. They will martyr him, and use his name for inspiration to do more killing.

Also, I think it's retarded how they "buried him at sea". His head needs to be on a stake in front of the white house for everyone to see. Any why the hell wouldn't they get him alive? That would have been much better.

Oh, and Osama rhymes with Obama.... (make what you will of that comment)


Millions of radical terrorist who inherited $7 million and used it to establish a terror network?
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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So many people here are so dumb.... Osama Bin Laden is dead.... Whoopdeedoo! So fucking what? Big deal.... Do you really, honestly think this is going to make anything better? Do you think that now terrorists will never again blow up US or Israel? Maybe you foolishly think that they will somehow become disoriented without his leadership?

Wake up and smell the coffee. There are millions of Osama Bin Ladens out there. Every time you kill one a new one will take his place.

If anything, this even is actually good for the terrorists. They will martyr him, and use his name for inspiration to do more killing.

Also, I think it's retarded how they "buried him at sea". His head needs to be on a stake in front of the white house for everyone to see. And why the hell wouldn't they get him alive? That would have been much better.

Oh, and Osama rhymes with Obama.... (make what you will of that comment)

Based on your retarded logic, we should allow terrorists to get away with murder b/c if we go after them, it'll only make things worse. Yeah, that's a good plan.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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So many people here are so dumb.... Osama Bin Laden is dead.... Whoopdeedoo! So fucking what? Big deal.... Do you really, honestly think this is going to make anything better? Do you think that now terrorists will never again blow up US or Israel? Maybe you foolishly think that they will somehow become disoriented without his leadership?

Wake up and smell the coffee. There are millions of Osama Bin Ladens out there. Every time you kill one a new one will take his place.

If anything, this even is actually good for the terrorists. They will martyr him, and use his name for inspiration to do more killing.

Also, I think it's retarded how they "buried him at sea". His head needs to be on a stake in front of the white house for everyone to see. And why the hell wouldn't they get him alive? That would have been much better.

Oh, and Osama rhymes with Obama.... (make what you will of that comment)

Such fail, where to even begin.
 

PimpJuice

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I didn't say he wasn't a priority. But it's only after he's dead that he was the "top priority". Strange how that changed isn't it?

You are an idiot.

Edit: ......because you make blanket accusations that you somehow know the "top priority" of the government. Also, because you called the POTUS a liar with no proof whatsoever.
 
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