Osama bin Laden is dead

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zinfamous

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Though of course we both realize, as do many and I'm sure was the true intent of the gov't that we didn't want to give any fodder to the extremists "LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO HIS BODY!!! THE AMERICAN DOGS!"


yeah, I see it as an appeal to those "on the fence."

...the independent voters of the muslim world, if you were. They can decide an election, and they can possibly decide the war against terror.
 

gorcorps

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You have to give him some credit though. First and foremost he made the decision and regardless of how detached he was from the planning and execution of the operation he is irrevocably tied to its outcome. Look at Carter. He was weighed down by a bickering Congress, stagflation, and the Iran hostage crisis. The failure of the operation that he approved cannot really be laid at his feet. I do not think that you can affix blame for the helicopter crash on Carter but you have to admit that he pretty much torpedoed his reelection hopes with that failure. So Obama went ahead with this decision knowing that if it failed he would have to bear the brunt of the political fallout. In the end though, people can go on about the limits of his involvement in this case but you have to admit that for what he had to do in it he did it properly and that should be taken as an indication of him as being a good President in these situations.

Yeah I suppose. It's hard to know who makes what calls as it has to go through so many layers, but it WAS finally finished now where others couldn't before. I don't know... I hate politics. I try not to get involved because I just can't stand anybody on any side, and I just get riled up over things that don't matter.
 

zinfamous

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I really like P05111PS-0210 (top right). The picture shows Obama is practical.

yeah, that's the one I call the money shot.

pic 047 is odd. it's like Obama is wearing a David Byrne suit.


 
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trmiv

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PSN is back up?

You believe that hacking thing as the reason it was down? Sheeple. Obviously the government took it down from the public so they could use it to control this mission from DC as evidenced by the pic above!
 

sdifox

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You believe that hacking thing as the reason it was down? Sheeple. Obviously the government took it down from the public so they could use it to control this mission from DC as evidenced by the pic above!

They hacked all the cameras and backtraced the ip once they found bin laden's face.
 
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SO, here's how it works today:

Economy: Obama's fault--not Bush! no way, Jose!

killing bin Laden: All Bush! not Obama! Fuck yeah, torture!!



sad era in idiocy for the USA as a whole.





despite the fact that every economist in the history of the discipline (and every political analyst, for that matter) has stated categorically that the POTUS has little to no effect, in the grand scheme of things, on how the economy works and where it goes, it remains, as it always has, the deciding factor in how they are elected.

Hilarious.

Yeah, I'm sick of seeing the political bullshit. People saying Obama had nothing to do with it, but acting like Bush did (um, both did, you can't really have it one way or the other). One of the first things that should have happened was a phone call, I don't care which one initiated it, but Obama and Bush saying we got him. I doubt it happened, but...

Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I like that they just tossed him in the ocean. It must be burning the extremists up that we didn't make a big deal about it and didn't give them any pictures or anything to use as propaganda.

Just slip in, pop him in the head, toss him in the ocean, and peace out.

Actually they do have pics. They also have video of the "burial". I'm not sure if you missed it or what, but the government is considering showing them just to get people to stop going "fake!!!!!", which sadly I've seen a bunch of Americans claim. Guess they don't think too much of Navy SEALS...
 

zinfamous

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Yeah, I'm sick of seeing the political bullshit. People saying Obama had nothing to do with it, but acting like Bush did (um, both did, you can't really have it one way or the other). One of the first things that should have happened was a phone call, I don't care which one initiated it, but Obama and Bush saying we got him. I doubt it happened, but...

i'm pretty sure it did happen. He called Bush and Clinton, the two that really began the bin Laden hunt in earnest. This was certainly before the press conference. I would think that they knew the intel prior to the operation, but maybe not. It probably makes more sense that they did not.

Clinton devoted a lot of time to hunting that fucktard, and received nothing but shit for it from the GOP. It was actually in the memo that he handed to W when he turned over power--get this fucker. He is our #1.

You expect them to call the former pres on moments like this. Reagan sent Carter over to Iran when the hostages were released, b/c that was all Carter's work.

classy.
 
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mcmilljb

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i'm pretty sure it did happen. He called Bush and Clinton, the two that really began the bin Laden hunt in earnest. This was certainly before the press conference. I would think that they knew the intel prior to the operation, but maybe not. It probably makes more sense that they did not.

Clinton devoted a lot of time to hunting that fucktard, and received nothing but shit for it from the GOP. It was actually in the memo that he handed to W when he turned over power--get this fucker. He is our #1.

You expect them to call the former pres on moments like this. Reagan sent Carter over to Iran when the hostages were released, b/c that was all Carter's work.

classy.

Nothing like giving terrorists 8 billion dollars for hostages after you lose the election. I wonder if Reagan convinced him to do it.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/iran-hostage-crisis-ends
 

l0cke

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Anyone know where I can find the Next Media animation of the Osama pig rape? They took it off youtube
 

AznAnarchy99

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exactly. If baffles the mind that the nutters didn't realize this was the only option from the get-go.

it's like, #3 in check list of anti-terrorism strategy. Leave no martyrs, no shrine, nothing to rally behind. And, if you can appeal, if even in the smallest way, to any and all on the fence about going the extremist or legit route, you've completely tossed the fundy islamist propaganda back in the faces of the recruiters. Though, it's probably likely, I guess, that recruiting will still see a spike in recent weeks, but probably diminished compared to what would have happened had the US handled this differently.

seriously--producing a body or pics isn't going to convince the deniers anymore than they are convinced right now. "PHOTOSHOOP! IT'S SO OBVIOUS!"

fuckers still deny the moon landing, they reject the fundamental laws of physics to try and argue that the WTC was brought down by explosives.

Why the fuck should we worry about convincing the lunatics?

They're real life trolls. Its more annoying that they believe in it with passion.

I know someone that is convinced that the government is injecting high amounts of flouride into the water system to kill us all for money.
 

zinfamous

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They're real life trolls. Its more annoying that they believe in it with passion.

I know someone that is convinced that the government is injecting high amounts of flouride into the water system to kill us all for money.

does this person also have an irrational fear of vinegar?
:hmm:
 

zinfamous

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wow.

Leon Panetta just said on News Hour that they never had complete confirmation that Bin Laden was in that compound before taking action.

They had images of a person fitting his description, but where he would be (within the compound or outside)--if it was him--and exactly how long he was there was not known before the operation.

No one in the situation room or CIA headquarters were able to see the operation as it occurred.

about 20 minutes into the operation, as soon as the SEALs entered, video and intel was black. No one in Washington or Virginia saw the kill.

word came over after 20 minutes into the operation: "Geronimo" This was the code for bin Laden down.


I remember during the initial announcement that the firefight supposedly lasted only 10-15 minutes of the entire 44 or so minutes.

Panetta just said that they had authority to kill, but to take him if he would be willing to surrender. I don't believe that for a second, hah.
 
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zinfamous

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lol, looks like Pakistani media is trying separate itself from the beloved patriot government/military/citizenry.

 
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