Osama bin Laden is dead

[HAL9000]

you don't know any good people

I do as it happens!

even i disagree with this, and i still think neckbeard is a RBM.

Don't tell everyone :sneaky:

 

[erikistired]

i'll just leave this in here...

 

[dougp]

No. Not at all. In fact many of them agree with me, or at least admit the remote possibility of a conspiracy.
So, let's get this straight. Any talk that goes against YOUR beliefs is crazy talk... Right?

Off course Bin Laden admitted to planning 9/11. It was the best course of action for him. Why wouldn't he admit to it? Terrorists tend to take credit for acts they didn't commit as long as those acts go in line with what they would have liked to happen. Also, I never seen any videos of OBL admitting to this and never heard any recordings... Care to link me to one of those? I may even "slightly" doubt myself after this.

You just said it yourself. You know a FORMER Iraqi soldier. Read my post again. I said that in the beginning the attitudes were generally positive. And polls? Give me a break. Those are faked by the govt. They want you to support the war, not want it to stop.

And yes, I do not dismiss the possibility that it may have been the govt. that destroyed the WTC. Again, I don't know anything for sure, I simply cant, but I see no reason to blindly believe what is being fed to me by the media.

Finally, if I am spouting so much crazy talk, why is it that hundreds of people constantly rally next to the white house to express their discontent with the govt.? Are they all crazy just like me?

Hundreds. Really? Out of a population of 311mm people, yes there are going to be people who are unhappy. Hence, those you see protesting. You are not the majority. Anyone who thinks the U.S. purposely killed their own civilians to start a war seriously needs to get the fuck out of this country that provides you the RIGHT to believe that.

And the people in Iraq are happy to have that right, now. If you're too blind to see that, perhaps you should ask a military member who has served. I know my uncle confirmed multiple times when I asked him how the locals were, and he said they loved the Americans for freeing them from Saddam. I bet the government stopped him on his way back from his deployment and brainwashed him into telling me that, right?

 

[mjrpes3]

 

[gorcorps]

He's only the commander in chief of the people who kill osama bin laden is all.

So? We only had troops even bothering with that area because the guy before him put them there. All Obama did was NOT move them away.

Now if this was his idea all along and these kind of raids were orchestrated by Obama, then I'll admit this is his victory. If anything it goes to show how the leadership of both parties working together in tandem may actually be able to accomplish something. Instead of reversing everything else the last guy did when you step into office, this country can actually DO something worth mentioning if you go along and advance some of it.

All I'm saying is this seems to be something set in place long before he was there, so saying it's his victory seems wrong.

 

[HAL9000]

Repost.

 

[Capt Caveman]

No. Not at all. In fact many of them agree with me, or at least admit the remote possibility of a conspiracy.
So, let's get this straight. Any talk that goes against YOUR beliefs is crazy talk... Right?

Off course Bin Laden admitted to planning 9/11. It was the best course of action for him. Why wouldn't he admit to it? Terrorists tend to take credit for acts they didn't commit as long as those acts go in line with what they would have liked to happen. Also, I never seen any videos of OBL admitting to this and never heard any recordings... Care to link me to one of those? I may even "slightly" doubt myself after this.

You just said it yourself. You know a FORMER Iraqi soldier. Read my post again. I said that in the beginning the attitudes were generally positive. And polls? Give me a break. Those are faked by the govt. They want you to support the war, not want it to stop.

And yes, I do not dismiss the possibility that it may have been the govt. that destroyed the WTC. Again, I don't know anything for sure, I simply cant, but I see no reason to blindly believe what is being fed to me by the media.

Finally, if I am spouting so much crazy talk, why is it that hundreds of people constantly rally next to the white house to express their discontent with the govt.? Are they all crazy just like me?

The fact that you don't have a single piece of proof to substantiate anything you're spouting and like to ignore evidence proves that you're crazy or retarded. Why do you post here and not in P&N? You would feel at home there.

In the last ten years, you still haven't learned about Google? B/c if you did, you could have found thousands of links that would demonstrate your silliness. One link of thousands - http://abcnews.go.com/International/video/osama-bin-laden-911-confession-13506877

I suggest you google "osama bin laden 9/11 confession" b/c I know you won't believe anything I link you.

Link of 9/11 hijackers link to Bin Laden - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

But I know you won't believe that.

Even after providing his birth certificate, I bet you still believe Obama was born in Kenya but you have no proof.

You believe that the US Gov't was responsible for 9/11 but have no proof.

I bet you believe that Muslims were behind the OKC Bombing. I bet you don't believe that Bin Laden is dead though no one from Al Qaeda or the Muslim world denies it.

And the hundreds of people rally outside of the White House may be upset about the gov't but I'm sure that they don't think like you. And I'd like to see a link to prove that I'm wrong.

Forgot, I like how anything that disproves your point is a gov't scam. So, do you know any Iraqi's that wish Saddam was still in power? B/c we all know we can't believe anything that the news reports.

Seriously, post your nonsense in the matching threads in P&N, the 9/11 conspiracy thread over there has fact after fact disproving your nonsense and as well as the Bin Laden thread.

 

[zerocool84]

I come back after a 4 day ban and P&N has yet again spilled over to OT.

 

[brianmanahan]

 

[erikistired]

I come back after a 4 day ban and P&N has yet again spilled over to OT.

i think the mods have given up. they have been letting all sorts of p&n leak into ot lately.

 

[alkemyst]

I think it's funny the people demanded to see a birth certificate but out of fear accept the US not providing a visual of the confirmed kill.

 

[SSSnail]

You know, the proper thing to do is ask anyone that are demanding a proper Islamic burial for Osama if they'd like a free Islamic burial as well. I think that will quiet a lot of critics.

 

[darkswordsman17]

So? We only had troops even bothering with that area because the guy before him put them there. All Obama did was NOT move them away.

Now if this was his idea all along and these kind of raids were orchestrated by Obama, then I'll admit this is his victory. If anything it goes to show how the leadership of both parties working together in tandem may actually be able to accomplish something. Instead of reversing everything else the last guy did when you step into office, this country can actually DO something worth mentioning if you go along and advance some of it.

All I'm saying is this seems to be something set in place long before he was there, so saying it's his victory seems wrong.

No one is claiming that it was all because of Obama. It wasn't just because Bush "put them there" either. JHumeC, if you don't know WTF you're talking about then STFU in the first place.

 

[erikistired]

No one is claiming that it was all because of Obama. It wasn't just because Bush "put them there" either. JHumeC, if you don't know WTF you're talking about then STFU in the first place.

this is off topic, we do want we want here*. if you want to act all crazy and pretend you're informed go back to p&n with the other trash.

*as long as no babe pics are involved.

 

[zinfamous]

I love this guy

 

[darkswordsman17]

this is off topic, we do want we want here*. if you want to act all crazy and pretend you're informed go back to p&n with the other trash.

*as long as no babe pics are involved.

What?

"do want we want"?

Pretend I'm informed? A cursory use of common sense is all it takes to defeat what he has been posting in this thread. In fact, that was my problem, he was posting in a style reminiscent of P&N posters.

 

[erikistired]

What?

"do want we want"?

Pretend I'm informed? A cursory use of common sense is all it takes to defeat what he has been posting in this thread. In fact, that was my problem, he was posting in a style reminiscent of P&N posters.

oh. in that case, fuck that guy.

 

[gorcorps]

No one is claiming that it was all because of Obama. It wasn't just because Bush "put them there" either. JHumeC, if you don't know WTF you're talking about then STFU in the first place.

That's my point. Regardless of who was leading at what time, this is a victory for the country as a whole and not a single leader. I just don't get all the posts on facebook (for example) that say "that's how its done Obama! "

 

[erikistired]

That's my point. Regardless of who was leading at what time, this is a victory for the country as a whole and not a single leader. I just don't get all the posts on facebook (for example) that say "that's how its done Obama! "

i would start by looking at the people posting such things.

 

[MarkXIX]

Oh I have no doubt the guy who popped him went home and fucked a blonde in the ass.
A real blonde too, not some bleached bitch.

This is probably pretty accurate.

 

[darkswordsman17]

That's my point. Regardless of who was leading at what time, this is a victory for the country as a whole and not a single leader. I just don't get all the posts on facebook (for example) that say "that's how its done Obama! "

First, sorry for the vitriolic response, it wasn't in response to you as much as it was to a bunch of others (not even on ATOT).

Ok, and I agree with that in part, although I just don't agree that people were giving him all the credit. He played a role, perhaps its one that anyone in the same position would have, but people were trying to discredit him because of that, which makes no sense. Likewise, I take issue that it was done just because the troops were already in that area. If you read up on it, I think it highlights how much of a problem dealing with Pakistan is/was, which is why them keeping pushing to find him and then actually willing to send in a strike team vs a missile or trying to get Pakistan to do it shows some initiative. This was no easy decision, regardless of how it might seem in hindsight. Certainly, it wasn't like Obama came in and then drew up the plans or anything himself, he mostly listened to evidence and advisors and then with help of them and his own staff made the decision. Their evidence, as well as having crack team like the SEALS available to carry it out definitely helped. And yes, a lot of it was carryover from the intelligence done under Bush.

I'm actually seeing the opposite. I've got people on Facebook calling this sketchy and saying they don't believe it, just because they don't like Obama. Some of them keep claiming that everyone (the government and media) said it was done via a missile strike a week ago, and that because now they're claiming it was done yesterday with SEALS that proves they just made the whole thing up.

i would start by looking at the people posting such things.

True, and its why my issue is that I was seeing idiots posting similar opinions.

 

[wnied]

Just a quick thought...how could they possibly identify bin laden via DNA when it takes damned near a month to get results back for major court cases???

~wnied~

 

[zerocool84]

Just a quick thought...how could they possibly identify bin laden via DNA when it takes damned near a month to get results back for major court cases???

~wnied~

High value target would take precedence over everything.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Anybody watching ABC Nightline? Good stuff. Pics of Obama and his staff watching it go down and animations of what exactly happened and video of inside the compound and where he was killed.

 

[wnied]

Ok, but testing still takes more than 1-2 days even in emergency cases...