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Vader2K

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If I were getting chased, I think I'd be too nervous to aim for the optimal target point. I think I'd be squeezing off rounds just as fast as I could pump the shotgun. If I could take the time to aim, I'd probably place one right between the peepers, or from the side I would go right behind the front shoulder and hope to penetrate both lungs and the heart.

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RemyCanad

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Just a side note. For a human to be as strong as a bear the human would have to be like 10 foot tall. And if we had the muscles of a cat someone 6 foot tall could jump on top of a 1 story house. :Q

Oh yeah and if we were as strong as a silver back gorilla we could dead left the weight of two VW beetles!
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Maybe I'm alone on this, but why kill a bear / deer period? I don't see the reasoning for senselessly murdering an animal unless it's absolutely neccesary for survival, and since we all have grocery stores near us, I don't think it's justified.

Where do you think the meat comes from in them? meat plants?

Some people hunt for food. I love venison. I could never kill a deer, but I love venison. Venison Jerky... Yummy!

I remember the last time I went Packard Bell hunting. Yes, Packard Bell is out of business in the US. Most of its machines were caught, deal with, and put down. However, what they don't tell you, and what they don't want you to know, is a small number of these machines escaped and have never been caught. I almost bagged one, its power cord was wrapped around some bushes in a small wooded area in back of the house. I grabbed for it. but it vanished into the night, its power cord dangling in my hand like a lizard's detached tail. It was then I noticed I had disturbed this particular machine from a nest containing at least six of these remotes, all beige in color. So collecting these remotes in the wild is the only means of procurement. Nests are abandoned readily (they never were GOOD computers) so people find plenty of these remotes, and sell them on ebay.
 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Maybe I'm alone on this, but why kill a bear / deer period? I don't see the reasoning for senselessly murdering an animal unless it's absolutely neccesary for survival, and since we all have grocery stores near us, I don't think it's justified.

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networkman

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Maybe I'm alone on this, but why kill a bear / deer period? I don't see the reasoning for senselessly murdering an animal unless it's absolutely neccesary for survival, and since we all have grocery stores near us, I don't think it's justified.

And going down to that same grocery store to get a couple lbs of ground beef is okay?!? :Q

Evadman has got it right:

Cows do not belong in dairy farmers' pens. They belong out in the wilderness, where they may run free with the wolves and bears and become fair game for those of us already out there hunting the deer that aren't in the grocery store.




 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: networkman
Originally posted by: tbates757
Maybe I'm alone on this, but why kill a bear / deer period? I don't see the reasoning for senselessly murdering an animal unless it's absolutely neccesary for survival, and since we all have grocery stores near us, I don't think it's justified.

And going down to that same grocery store to get a couple lbs of ground beef is okay?!? :Q

Evadman has got it right:

Cows do not belong in dairy farmers' pens. They belong out in the wilderness, where they may run free with the wolves and bears and become fair game for those of us already out there hunting the deer that aren't in the grocery store.
Amen.

 

Fingers

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bear in mind I have no bear experience (hehe, no pun intended)

My understanding was that if you have to stop a charging bear, and had any time to chose the target, you'd aim for the shoulders in hopes of breaking its shoulder, to slow it down enough to get away and reload for a kill shot.

I have hit dear with a 10 guage shotgun at a point in there front legs ( I know I know very bad shot) were both the legs were missing fromt eh animal and it was still running at about 25-30 MPH. So that might not be the best placement. Right behind the ear would be my prime choice, but that won't happen on the run.

My prefered method is to simply observ them through the scope on my moddest .338 in their natural habitat right before they get fvcked up with my new balistic tips which by the way I'm a good shot shot with my rifle (as compared to my shotgun ), very comparable to vader2k and if you guys shoot factory ammo a boss is a good investment (I just love my browning a-bolt)
 

DIESEL1

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Maybe I'm alone on this, but why kill a bear / deer period? I don't see the reasoning for senselessly murdering an animal unless it's absolutely neccesary for survival, and since we all have grocery stores near us, I don't think it's justified.

I know most people don't think of this and I don't blame them, but if you're not a vegetarian and you don't hunt then you obviously support the imprisonment of animals from their habitat in very poor conditions to be pumped up with steriods just to be killed at the most convienent time. Poor things.

I buy meat from the store also, but wouldn't if I could go into the wild and shoot a black angus to stock the freezer with.
 

RemyCanad

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Huh? So becuase I don't hunt means I don't think hunting is ok???

I am just saying that people always tell me that they hunt becuase they can. And they can becuase we are the higher species in the food chain. And I say you go out there with stuff only you have invinted and hunt. I doubt you will kill many things. I see hunting for food to be ok. And we sure do have a deer problem here in missouri. You guys keep the deer from infront of my car.

Oh yeah I don't think I have ever ate deer meat!
 

DIESEL1

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I mainly get out hunting for all of the cool stuff I always see and of course, the occasional taking of a deer.
Once I had two bucks fight about 50 feet from me. That was so amazin I couldn't think of shooting one with my bow until it was too late. Several times I have had does and fawns eat almost within an arms length. I won't even get into all of the stories about my adventures while tracking the great white tails.

Like all other hunters, all of my memories of the great outdoors will forever be good ones even the many times I came home empty handed.

You should give it a try Remy!
 
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Originally posted by: RemyCanad
Im not trying to kill anything by using my computer or driving my car am I?

No, but you are getting the benefits of their use. Likewise, by your logic, you ought not be eating any food you are not growing or killing yourself.
 

networkman

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If hunting "Bambi" gives you shivers, try hunting something else. Hunting wild turkeys can be challenging.

Most people think turkeys are incredibly dumb, and they're mostly right - domesticated turkeys ARE incredibly dumb!
I raised them for several years back home as a kid. I remember one time when we were processing them(butchering) and I was chopping the heads off, and after I'd done the first one, another curious gobbler walked over and stuck his neck across the block to get a better look! :Q Completely the truth - I kid you not!

But I digress.. point is, wild turkeys are infinitely smarter than their farmland brethren and can take a good deal of patience in nailing, especially with a bow.
 

RemyCanad

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Didn't Einstien say that our national animal should be the turky becuase they are so smart?
 

DIESEL1

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There are many wild turkeys by me, but I only see them when I'm deer hunting. The amazing thing is that they sometimes eat with the deer like they were invited over for dinner. My guess is that they are teaming up and taking advantage of eachothers senses of approaching danger.
 

Vader2K

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I would love to take a turkey with my bow, but I haven't become accurate enough to take a humane shot. Maybe next season I'll be a good enough shot, so I've got some practicing to do.

--Vader2k
 

networkman

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Originally posted by: RemyCanad
Didn't Einstien say that our national animal should be the turky becuase they are so smart?

Nope, I think you're thinking of Benjamin Franklin.

Having read his auto-biography and having seen the recent PBS special about him, he would've been a very interesting man to have met.

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
My understanding was that if you have to stop a charging bear, and had any time to chose the target, you'd aim for the shoulders in hopes of breaking its shoulder, to slow it down enough to get away and reload for a kill shot.

Actually, you want to hit them in the spine right behind the head as their front legs are coming down, due to the nature of their run, what with the rear legs being significantly longer. Hitting them in the shoulder would not do much. Hell, one bear that was taken up here one year had three dents in his skull that looked to be from a .44 Magnum, and they know at least one was, because the bullet was still stuck there.
 

RemyCanad

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Originally posted by: networkman
Originally posted by: RemyCanad
Didn't Einstien say that our national animal should be the turky becuase they are so smart?

Nope, I think you're thinking of Benjamin Franklin.

Having read his auto-biography and having seen the recent PBS special about him, he would've been a very interesting man to have met.

"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin


Ah yes, Benjamin Franklin. I just finished reading a bunch of Einstien qoutes so I couldn't remeber.


 
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LOL, try taking a small 8 point (145lbs.) running at 650 yards in the brush country around San Saba TX with a .223 with a 6x scope, anyone who says that doesn't take skill is crazy. My proudest kill, plus since it was a young buck...talk about tender, we ate that deer within one week of processing it. The best cut oddly enough was the quarter rump roast, a friend of mine came up with a recipe from his grandfather that had you smoke it for 36 hrs while marinated in Italian dressing, the meat had literally fallen off the bones before it was ready to eat. Sure wish I could try that recipe again, but I keep screwing it up and drying out the quarter. I grew up a farm boy, where hunting is something done as a family thing, the self-esteem from taking a wild animal and thanking god for the ease of recieving food today is very satisfying. That's why there are so many ranchers starting hunting clubs for kids in Dallas and Austin to teach the kids of the next generation pride, and family values that currently being lost today. There are too many families with fathers either not there or not interested in spending time with thier kids. I'm not saying hunting is for everyone, but outdoor activities are being lost, fishing is another simple cheap way to spend a weekend at the lake, even if you don't take an animal or catch any fish its not the 'catch' that makes the weekend its the family time that makes the difference. If not for fishing and hunting I guarantee I'd be doing drugs right now, wouldn't be the christian I am today, and because of my hobbies, I've even gotten 4 people to stop doing pot and get into bass fishing. I pray that they continue to spread the hobbie and stop more teens from doing the same.

Just my 2 cents, but I could go on and on about conservation efforts and the family values associated with outdoor activities.
 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: networkman
If hunting "Bambi" gives you shivers, try hunting something else. Hunting wild turkeys can be challenging.

Most people think turkeys are incredibly dumb, and they're mostly right - domesticated turkeys ARE incredibly dumb!
I raised them for several years back home as a kid. I remember one time when we were processing them(butchering) and I was chopping the heads off, and after I'd done the first one, another curious gobbler walked over and stuck his neck across the block to get a better look! :Q Completely the truth - I kid you not!

But I digress.. point is, wild turkeys are infinitely smarter than their farmland brethren and can take a good deal of patience in nailing, especially with a bow.

<---hunts wild turkeys

Turkey hunting is a bit of a challenge

Tonight I was out deer hunting and I had a doe walk behind me about 10 feet back, circle around, come about 10 feet out in front of me, then it walked towards me, stopped about 6-8 feet away and stared at me, then it took off like it was going to run away, and stopped about 20 feet out. It walked around out there for about a half hour, back and forth, looking at me trying to decide if I was a threat or not! Really gets the adrenaline going!

 

muttley

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Maybe I'm alone on this, but why kill a bear / deer period? I don't see the reasoning for senselessly murdering an animal unless it's absolutely neccesary for survival, and since we all have grocery stores near us, I don't think it's justified.

Actually cause of mans inteference in the ballance of things there is an overpopouation of deer and they eat a lots of food from the ground up depriving other smaller species foreging no longer available to them in their local area.

muttley
 

danzigrules

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not a crap on your thread, but my wife has always said : "give the deer a gun to make it fair, and then see who eats who. "


/me prays that I never run across a deer with a gun
 
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Originally posted by: danzigrules
not a crap on your thread, but my wife has always said : "give the deer a gun to make it fair, and then see who eats who. "


/me prays that I never run across a deer with a gun

I would not worry even if I did. They have no opposable thumbs.
 

deerslayer

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Originally posted by: danzigrules
not a crap on your thread, but my wife has always said : "give the deer a gun to make it fair, and then see who eats who. "


/me prays that I never run across a deer with a gun

what most everyone already knows: "Life isn't fair, get over it"

 

networkman

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Tonight I was out deer hunting and I had a doe walk behind me about 10 feet back, circle around, come about 10 feet out in front of me, then it walked towards me, stopped about 6-8 feet away and stared at me, then it took off like it was going to run away, and stopped about 20 feet out. It walked around out there for about a half hour, back and forth, looking at me trying to decide if I was a threat or not! Really gets the adrenaline going!

Threat?!? I don't think so..

I think that female was checkin' you out! :Q She kept circling around.. sizing you up, trying to decide if you'd be "a good buck" or not!

So.. did you score? :Q

 
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