OT-Oh no! dual"XP" system is down :(

[MrFluffy]

Basically, the "lone star" of my fleet of (1) is not able to crunch SETI any longer
Well, OK it does, but only for 4-10 seconds, then it likes to lock up.
It started being a problem with two processes running, so I started only using one process and it crunched happily (and turned in about 6WU a day); until today
Now it won't stay stable enough with SETI running, so regretfully, until I solve the issue, I have to stop SETI production on it.
Anything that takes up 100% of either, or both processors will lock the system, it's fine up to about 90%, but anything more than that the system locks up
*sniffle*

 

[IsOs]

The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

 

[RaySun2Be]

Dasm. That sucks.

As far as a fan, the case has a 120MM fan blowing right on the CPUs, along with the CPU fans. Wouldn't hurt to check the fans though. Does that MB display MB & CPU temps in the BIOS?

 

[MrFluffy]

Originally posted by: IsOs
The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

Actually both of those I have tested, the most of which was heat (the funny thing is the more fans I put in the less it runs)...
It's either the MB, the PSU, or the processors (but most likely the PSU).

The even funnier thing is that my fans are spinning at over 600million RPM, and I also have a temp of 175degF on the MB, and both cpu's (but I can put my hand on each of the HS's without feeling much heat).

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: MrFluffy

Originally posted by: IsOs
The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

Actually both of those I have tested, the most of which was heat (the funny thing is the more fans I put in the less it runs)...
It's either the MB, the PSU, or the processors (but most likely the PSU).

The even funnier thing is that my fans are spinning at over 600million RPM, and I also have a temp of 175degF on the MB, and both cpu's (but I can put my hand on each of the HS's without feeling much heat).

1. If you put in more fans and that causes the system to become more unstable I am lead to believe that your power supply might be dying. Can you post complete system specs please?
2. Take a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsinks for both processors and their fans.

-Por

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: MrFluffy

Originally posted by: IsOs
The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

Actually both of those I have tested, the most of which was heat (the funny thing is the more fans I put in the less it runs)...
It's either the MB, the PSU, or the processors (but most likely the PSU).

The even funnier thing is that my fans are spinning at over 600million RPM, and I also have a temp of 175degF on the MB, and both cpu's (but I can put my hand on each of the HS's without feeling much heat).

1. If you put in more fans and that causes the system to become more unstable I am lead to believe that your power supply might be dying. Can you post complete system specs please?
2. Take a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsinks for both processors and their fans.

-Por

I would also remove the hs/f from the cpu and apply some fresh AS2 , or your thermal compound of choice.

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: MrFluffy

Originally posted by: IsOs
The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

Actually both of those I have tested, the most of which was heat (the funny thing is the more fans I put in the less it runs)...
It's either the MB, the PSU, or the processors (but most likely the PSU).

The even funnier thing is that my fans are spinning at over 600million RPM, and I also have a temp of 175degF on the MB, and both cpu's (but I can put my hand on each of the HS's without feeling much heat).

1. If you put in more fans and that causes the system to become more unstable I am lead to believe that your power supply might be dying. Can you post complete system specs please?
2. Take a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsinks for both processors and their fans.

-Por

I would also remove the hs/f from the cpu and apply some fresh AS2 , or your thermal compound of choice.

Make that Artic Silver 5. It's a lot newer, cools better and is easier to apply. Make sure to clean the CPU and heatsink with Isopropyl Alcohol first though!

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: MrFluffy

Originally posted by: IsOs
The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

Actually both of those I have tested, the most of which was heat (the funny thing is the more fans I put in the less it runs)...
It's either the MB, the PSU, or the processors (but most likely the PSU).

The even funnier thing is that my fans are spinning at over 600million RPM, and I also have a temp of 175degF on the MB, and both cpu's (but I can put my hand on each of the HS's without feeling much heat).

1. If you put in more fans and that causes the system to become more unstable I am lead to believe that your power supply might be dying. Can you post complete system specs please?
2. Take a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsinks for both processors and their fans.

-Por

I would also remove the hs/f from the cpu and apply some fresh AS2 , or your thermal compound of choice.

Make that Artic Silver 5. It's a lot newer, cools better and is easier to apply. Make sure to clean the CPU and heatsink with Isopropyl Alcohol first though!

My compound of choice is GC electronics type 44 heat sink compound but don't many people seem to use it

 

[IsOs]

Check the fan on the psu. If it seems slow moving or the air flow is not as what it should be, replace the fan. Feel the PSU, is it hot?

Which PSU do you have?

 

[DannyBoy]

Sorry for your loss and hope you get it sorted asap

 

[RaySun2Be]

I hope he gets it back up and running soon, or else he's going to be knocking on my door, eyeing that XP2000+ Linux box I have crunching.....

 

[MrFluffy]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo

Originally posted by: MrFluffy

Originally posted by: IsOs
The most common caused of this type of lock up is heat. Check the fan of the cpus if the speed are still correct. The best way to tell if it's heat is by openning the case and pointing a fan into the system. If it doesn't lock up then you know it's heat.

The other caused of lock up is memory. If there's a chip that's about to go, having the system at 100% stress can caused the lock up.

Actually both of those I have tested, the most of which was heat (the funny thing is the more fans I put in the less it runs)...
It's either the MB, the PSU, or the processors (but most likely the PSU).

The even funnier thing is that my fans are spinning at over 600million RPM, and I also have a temp of 175degF on the MB, and both cpu's (but I can put my hand on each of the HS's without feeling much heat).

1. If you put in more fans and that causes the system to become more unstable I am lead to believe that your power supply might be dying. Can you post complete system specs please?
2. Take a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsinks for both processors and their fans.

-Por

As requested here are the complete system specs:

CPU(S): 1x MP 1800+ 1x Athlon @1533Mgz
RAM: 256MB Crucial PC2100@266
MB: TyanTiger MP (rev. 1.03)
Vid: ATI 8500LE
Sound: 1x Soundblaster Live!
HD: 1 Seagate Baraccuda (IDE) 1 WD (7200RPM) both are 20GB
Optic: 1 Toshiba 6x DVD ROM 1 TDK 12x10x32 CDRW
PSU: Enermax 330W (probably waaay under-powerd)
NIC: 2x 3com 3c90b
FAN: 2x 60mm case (1 for intake, 1 for exhost) 1x120mm (intake) 2x60mm CPU
OS: WinXP SP1

Currently I have the intake 60mm and the DVD ROM un-plugged, and I have tried taking off all optic drives and all fans (except the CPU fans), but it seems not
to matter. I was going to take off the WD HD (since it is going out anyway), but it seems like I can't load windows without it (forgot to set it to slave when I installed XP... oops). What I can try in the short-term anyway is to borrow on of Ray's AT PSU's to power the HD's, Optics, and case fans to alleviate some of the draw on the current PSU. unfortunately I cannot afford a new PSU I'll try to tackle the re-seating of the HS/fans (it's a pain) sometime in the near future, but honestly it does not seem to be a heat issue.

-PS Ray, don't you have a spare 2000+ laying around


Oh yea, the PSU does have extensive heat exhosting.. . (which really indicates the PSU being the blame for the system lockups)

 

[ken008]

Those boards don`t like Crucial ram, burns it up.

 

[MrFluffy]

Originally posted by: ken008
Those boards don`t like Crucial ram, burns it up.

Does it burn out the RAM or the MB?

 

[ken008]

The ram only. It happened to me, freeze ups until it eventually refused to boot. Are you using registered ? You could try swapping out the ram to isolate the cause.

 

[MrFluffy]

Originally posted by: ken008
The ram only. It happened to me, freeze ups until it eventually refused to boot. Are you using registered ? You could try swapping out the ram to isolate the cause.

It is registered ECC, but I can't swap it out with any other RAM chips I have (I have another unregisterd chip of Crucial PC2100, but that will not boot).
But at least it "only" burns out the RAM, I would hate to have to replace the MB...