Other Direct competitors to the Subaru Outback?

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senseamp

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The belt is so easy to change in a Subaru it's a non issue. That's hardly the best thing about the new engine.

Oh yeah? I thought timing belt + water pump change was $1K or so. I haven't looked at the DIY way yet.
 

NutBucket

Lifer
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The dealer might charge $1k but it's a much easier diy than most other cars. Relatively speaking there's tons of room.
 

onza

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The engine design and layout is the best I've seen. You have plenty of room to move around and work on various areas of the car. One of the coolest features I saw was the oil filter was right on top.

And yes - 2013 to 2014 is the chain upgrade vs a belt. A major bonus in my mind.
 

NutBucket

Lifer
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Unless for some reason you need to pull the heads. But there's pros and cons to every engine design
 

Harrod

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The timing chain is part of the reason I waited to get a 2013 model, I'm sure it's not reallly a big issue, but I once saw the bill for my brothers 2001 outback for a timing belt and head gasket and it was pretty high. I was also pretty happy about the oil filter being on top of the engine.
 

fleshconsumed

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It appears Subaru has never fixed the head gasket problem on EJ25 engine. Apparently Subaru made changes to make it more reliable, but it has never been able to completely fix it. A buddy of mine had to have his gasket replaced on the 2010 forester just a few weeks ago. FB25 engines are all new and so far they do not seem to have any gasket issues. So far I've only come across reports of louder than normal chatter/ticking/tapping sort of sounds coming from the engine and excessive oil consumption issues. Time will tell how good these FB25's are.
 

senseamp

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Nice update for 2015. But 2014 is still a nice ride. These cars are never trendy styled to begin with, so they age pretty well.
 
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