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mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: RealWarlock
why didn't he seek medical attention? isn't there some antidote?

There are no easy treatments for that.

There is one thing that will weaken the posion is sea level pressure. Some hospitals in the south of USA have a pressure chamber where you sit inside for hours at certain sea level pressure (I'm not sure) and they usually recover quicker.

is he getting his thumb back? if yes - then okay. but if it was me I'd pay for medical accomodation (I mean stay in hospital under observation) while it recedes (probably a whole load of painkillers too).. and it looks like he was at home. and if he's not getting the thumb back why didn't he have it chopped off? yea - a thumb is a grave loss but if you're going to lose it eventually.

 

mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: Monel Funkawitz
THe man in the picture is already at a hospital, you can see stuff in the background.

BRS spiders have a venom that kills tissue. The only treatment for it after injection is to hope it didn't get you real good. Usually they have to cut out the affected tissue in severe cases to prevent gangrene and loss of the entire limb or worse. Camel spiders are the same way.

if he's in a hospital - my bad. I didn't want to see the photos again..
so this is kinda like that flesh eating bacteria? anyone catch the feature about it on discovery?

 

Azraele

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Originally posted by: fluxquantum
man, that is incredibly nasty...now i am paranoid about spiders

Most spides are non-agressive. They will only attack in self defense or if provoked.

The link doesn't work for me.
 

mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: Azraele
Originally posted by: fluxquantum
man, that is incredibly nasty...now i am paranoid about spiders

Most spides are non-agressive. They will only attack in self defense or if provoked.

The link doesn't work for me.

lucky you!

 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch
Originally posted by: Descartes
Brown recluses scare the hell out of me. I had them ALL OVER the townhome I used to live in (guess why I moved?). I would find them in my shower, under my bed, on the walls, and in some unfortunate cases, in my shoes. Nothing is worse than opening your closest to get a shirt only to find your hand an inch away from a BRS.

so how did you avoid getting bit?

Part luck, part knowing the areas to avoid, and part knowing their behavior. I always knew where they were, because they are extremely sloppy engineers; their webs hardly have any structure, and they look like they wouldn't support a fly. I remember opening the door to my closet and seeing a HUGE (for BRS) one on top of the shelf. I opened the closet door just enough so that the light would barely shine on it, and it very slowly creeped back. I opened the door some more, and it gently creeped back. Repeat this process over until I finally backed it up into the corner. I guess this is where they get their name recluse? Anyway, the point is that I shined as much light as possible on high-traffic areas. If you are infested with the BRS, any area left dark for a few hours will draw them out.

What's also interesting is that my cats will eat just about anything that moves, but they always avoided the BRS. Any time I saw my cats staring at the ground but not reacting, I knew they'd found a BRS.

I hate the BRS.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Azraele
Originally posted by: fluxquantum
man, that is incredibly nasty...now i am paranoid about spiders

Most spides are non-agressive. They will only attack in self defense or if provoked.

The link doesn't work for me.

This is true, but it's not knowing they are there that causes these bites. The BRS love dark places, so that includes your shirts, shoes, bed, ad nauseum. I knew a small girl that was bit on the cheek by a BRS when she rolled over in her bed.
 

mooojojojo

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Azraele
Originally posted by: fluxquantum
man, that is incredibly nasty...now i am paranoid about spiders

Most spides are non-agressive. They will only attack in self defense or if provoked.

The link doesn't work for me.

This is true, but it's not knowing they are there that causes these bites. The BRS love dark places, so that includes your shirts, shoes, bed, ad nauseum. I knew a small girl that was bit on the cheek by a BRS when she rolled over in her bed.

what happened to her?

btw - couldn't you spray the house with something (I don't know the english term for this, but you know - people come, spray. insects die)?

 

Eli

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Thankfully, Recluses don't live in the Northwest.

We have our own necrotic spider though, the common house spider.. also known as the Hobo Spider
 

brigden

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I've seen other pics of BRS bites online and they all scare the living sh*t out of me. I love spiders, but I'm not down with a hole in any of my limbs.

Where do these bad boys hail from? In what parts of North America can they be found?
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: brigden
I've seen other pics of BRS bites online and they all scare the living sh*t out of me. I love spiders, but I'm not down with a hole in any of my limbs.

Where do these bad boys hail from? In what parts of North America can they be found?

Eastern US for the most part, I believe. Of course, we still have black widows in the Southwest.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: brigden
I've seen other pics of BRS bites online and they all scare the living sh*t out of me. I love spiders, but I'm not down with a hole in any of my limbs.

Where do these bad boys hail from? In what parts of North America can they be found?

Eastern US for the most part, I believe. Of course, we still have black widows in the Southwest.
We have Black Widows here in Southern Oregon, but they aren't necrotic.. and there is an antidote.. heh.

Range Map of spiders known to cause Necrotic Arachnidism
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: brigden
I've seen other pics of BRS bites online and they all scare the living sh*t out of me. I love spiders, but I'm not down with a hole in any of my limbs.

Where do these bad boys hail from? In what parts of North America can they be found?

Eastern US for the most part, I believe. Of course, we still have black widows in the Southwest.
We have Black Widows here in Southern Oregon, but they aren't necrotic.. and there is an antidote.. heh.

Range Map of spiders known to cause Necrotic Arachnidism

Good point, although I still stay clear of black widows, necrotic or not.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: brigden
I've seen other pics of BRS bites online and they all scare the living sh*t out of me. I love spiders, but I'm not down with a hole in any of my limbs.

Where do these bad boys hail from? In what parts of North America can they be found?

Eastern US for the most part, I believe. Of course, we still have black widows in the Southwest.
We have Black Widows here in Southern Oregon, but they aren't necrotic.. and there is an antidote.. heh.

Range Map of spiders known to cause Necrotic Arachnidism

Good point, although I still stay clear of black widows, necrotic or not.
I tend to stay away from any spider that is as big as the palm of your hand.

Plus, black windows are just freaky.......... I would probably sh!t myself as I fell over dead if I had one crawling on me. :Q

 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Azraele
Originally posted by: fluxquantum
man, that is incredibly nasty...now i am paranoid about spiders

Most spides are non-agressive. They will only attack in self defense or if provoked.

The link doesn't work for me.

This is true, but it's not knowing they are there that causes these bites. The BRS love dark places, so that includes your shirts, shoes, bed, ad nauseum. I knew a small girl that was bit on the cheek by a BRS when she rolled over in her bed.

what happened to her?

btw - couldn't you spray the house with something (I don't know the english term for this, but you know - people come, spray. insects die)?

I know she was in the hospital for quite some time, but I don't remember the extent of her ailments. I remember her cheek was looking really bad. It was in our local newspaper last year.

I had my place sprayed at least 12 times in under 6 months, and absolutely nothing changed. The spray would cause a lot of them to come out from the darker areas, and indeed some would die; however, it never seemed to make a dent in their population. I don't care if I see one or one hundred, I don't want to live anywhere that is infested with the BRS. Of course, if you see one, there's plenty more where that one came from.

From what I understand, it's difficult to truly get rid of the BRS. There are exterminators who specialize in doing so, and from what I understand, the normal spray does not work, or at least does not work to the extent that one would like.
 

brigden

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Sweet. I live in Canada, and it doesn't look like we get any necrotic spiders up here.
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: brigden
I've seen other pics of BRS bites online and they all scare the living sh*t out of me. I love spiders, but I'm not down with a hole in any of my limbs.

Where do these bad boys hail from? In what parts of North America can they be found?

Eastern US for the most part, I believe. Of course, we still have black widows in the Southwest.
We have Black Widows here in Southern Oregon, but they aren't necrotic.. and there is an antidote.. heh.

Range Map of spiders known to cause Necrotic Arachnidism

Good point, although I still stay clear of black widows, necrotic or not.
I tend to stay away from any spider that is as big as the palm of your hand.

Plus, black windows are just freaky.......... I would probably sh!t myself as I fell over dead if I had one crawling on me. :Q


Just saw that map you linked. Great, we have necrotizing spiders in SoCal too?

I don't have a problem with most spiders, as long as they're not crawling on me or poisonous. I had a couple of tarantulas as pets when I was younger, but they're pretty harmless although certainly scary looking.
 

dafatha00

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Originally posted by: mooojojojo
so which of these spiders is the most dangerous?

I'm pretty sure there's some spider out in the tropical jungles that could bite your head off
 

pray4mojo

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So what animal/insect/thing can I buy that will naturally hunt recluse spiders? Another type of recluse spider perhaps?
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: pray4mojo
So what animal/insect/thing can I buy that will naturally hunt recluse spiders? Another type of recluse spider perhaps?

a more exuberant, outgoing one I would think.
 

DT4K

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I'm in Southern Oregon also. I recently bought a new house. My neighbors had been telling us that they had killed a bunch of black widows. So for the past month or so, my wife has been paranoid and every time she sees a spider, she is just sure it's a black widow. I told her that trust me, she would know when she saw one.

Then today, I was home for lunch and she called me out to the back patio and there was a big black spider crawling up the wall. I was pretty sure it was a black widow but I got it to crawl onto a stick so I could see the belly and there was the hourglass. Creepy as hell. I hate squishing really big spiders like that. And now I'm scared of letting my kids play outside.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Shanti
I'm in Southern Oregon also. I recently bought a new house. My neighbors had been telling us that they had killed a bunch of black widows. So for the past month or so, my wife has been paranoid and every time she sees a spider, she is just sure it's a black widow. I told her that trust me, she would know when she saw one.

Then today, I was home for lunch and she called me out to the back patio and there was a big black spider crawling up the wall. I was pretty sure it was a black widow but I got it to crawl onto a stick so I could see the belly and there was the hourglass. Creepy as hell. I hate squishing really big spiders like that. And now I'm scared of letting my kids play outside.


They really aren't terribly dangerous. They'll only bite you if they get caught between your clothes, or in your shoe, or something. They like dark places, too.. so unless your kids play in the basement, there isn't much to worry about.

Even in the event of a bite, a quick trip to the doctor, and all will be well.

 
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