Our Friends The Saudis Showing Their Human Decency

bshole

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The Saudi Soccer team refused to participate in a moment of silence for the London attack victims. This same douche country refuses to take in Muslims from Syria while funding radical Islamic mosques in Western Europe. But hey, the elite say they are our bestest friends in the whole world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRhDqe1lHVY
 

1prophet

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Oil loving conservatives on one side, apologist pretend liberals defending failed multiculturalism and the religious right of the middle east on the other side, while the Saudi's are laughing all the way to the bank.
 

BoomerD

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Yet, in his "not a Muslim ban," Muslim ban, Trump failed to list the country MOST of the 9-11 attackers came from...
 
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crashtech

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It's difficult for me to participate in a thread about the Saudis without engaging in some very colorful, pejorative language. If only we could untangle our military-industrial complex from those capric-copulators.
 

cytg111

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It's difficult for me to participate in a thread about the Saudis without engaging in some very colorful, pejorative language. If only we could untangle our military-industrial complex from those capric-copulators.
Yea, if only there was a way... cant think of a single one though... Totally unrelated though did you guys get the news that Tesla is going to disconnect almost all superchargers from the grid and let em run off of solar? ... Thats so uncoal its almost unamerican.
 

crashtech

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Yea, if only there was a way... cant think of a single one though... Totally unrelated though did you guys get the news that Tesla is going to disconnect almost all superchargers from the grid and let em run off of solar? ... Thats so uncoal its almost unamerican.
That's a lot of Powerwalls, lol.
 

NostaSeronx

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But FIFA said on Friday it has reviewed the match report and images from the incident and will not issue any sanctions against Saudi Arabia.

"We can confirm that there are no grounds to take disciplinary action,'' FIFA said.

Typically, FIFA representatives meet with officials from both teams and the referee a day before a World Cup qualifier to discuss game-related protocol, including plans for reflections such as the minute's silence.

The Australia federation, known as the FFA, said Saudi team officials knew about the plan to hold a minute's silence before the match and had indicated that the players wouldn't participate, saying the tradition, common at football matches, was "not in keeping with Saudi culture."
It appears to be very targeted in regards of language.

As it should be majority of the players considered it not in keeping with Saudi Culture. A few did a moment of silence gesture regardless of the statement.
 

pmv

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It appears to be very targeted in regards of language.

As it should be majority of the players considered it not in keeping with Saudi Culture. A few did a moment of silence gesture regardless of the statement.


But if it's not in keeping with Saudi culture, how do you explain the Saudi team having a minute's silence when their King Abdullah died in 2005?
 

raildogg

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When does a Western sports team show their respects for the millions killed by the Western war machines in wars all over the world?

But people get outraged over certain things but not other things. I guess some things have more value to them than others.
 
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pmv

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When does a Western sports team show their respects for the millions killed by the Western war machines in wars all over the world?

Why pick certain things to be outraged over and not the many others?


Why juxtapose the Saudis with 'the West'? You think the Saudis represent the global underdog?

The 'Western war machines' are entirely intertwinned with the Saudis. They keep them in power.
 

raildogg

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Why juxtapose the Saudis with 'the West'? You think the Saudis represent the global underdog?

The 'Western war machines' are entirely intertwinned with the Saudis. They keep them in power.
The Saudis are a military, political and religious arm of the West. They are funded and propped up by the West. Yet, these are the same guys many Western leaders and media love to hate. What a joke.

But everything in this world is upside down so why not this.
 

Pulsar

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Consider - we are in the middle east because of oil. Several countries have proved that renewables work (GB just had a day with negative electricity costs). Some like Germany are moving quickly to all renewables. Now put two and two together between the republicans, the orange man, and oil, and understand exactly why they downplay global warming. Just imagine if we moved toward renewables, lowered our oil dependence, got the fuck out of the middle east entirely, and paid attention to our own well-being.

Just imagine.

Of course, you'll have to accept a revised world power scheme. Our economy is where it is because of the way that oil is pegged to the dollar. When we stop being the worlds biggest oil consumer and move out of the middle east, they have no reason to continue to prop-up our bankrupt country. Then you'll really see the shit hit the fan whey they back China with China's near infinite production capacity.

All hail our new Chinese overlords. I for one welcome them!
 

woolfe9998

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When does a Western sports team show their respects for the millions killed by the Western war machines in wars all over the world?

But people get outraged over certain things but not other things. I guess some things have more value to them than others.

When has a western athletic team refused a moment of silence for victims of...anything? Please find a single case where this has happened.
 

postmortemIA

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Consider - we are in the middle east because of oil. Several countries have proved that renewables work (GB just had a day with negative electricity costs). Some like Germany are moving quickly to all renewables. Now put two and two together between the republicans, the orange man, and oil, and understand exactly why they downplay global warming. Just imagine if we moved toward renewables, lowered our oil dependence, got the fuck out of the middle east entirely, and paid attention to our own well-being.

Just imagine.

Of course, you'll have to accept a revised world power scheme. Our economy is where it is because of the way that oil is pegged to the dollar. When we stop being the worlds biggest oil consumer and move out of the middle east, they have no reason to continue to prop-up our bankrupt country. Then you'll really see the shit hit the fan whey they back China with China's near infinite production capacity.

All hail our new Chinese overlords. I for one welcome them!

Germans and British are happy with their compact cars that have great gas mileage, while month after month, US best seller is a pickup truck.
 

Pulsar

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Germans and British are happy with their compact cars that have great gas mileage, while month after month, US best seller is a pickup truck.

Not even going there. Age old meme that has been argued numerous times and has nothing to do with this at all.
 

Orignal Earl

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But if it's not in keeping with Saudi culture, how do you explain the Saudi team having a minute's silence when their King Abdullah died in 2005?

Several websites, including the Guardian, have tried to demonstrate the Saudi's act as hypocritical by pointing out that moments of silence were in fact held for the death of former Saudi King Abdullah. However, those examples are misleading. Two were held in other countries—Qatar and the UAE, to be precise—which have different prevailing interpretations of Islam that allow for such silences. Also, none of those instances actually involved Saudis.

I asked Wael Jabir, Dubai based editor of Middle East football website Ahdaaf.me, whether Saudi Arabia's refusal to observe the moment of silence has anything to do with being sympathetic to or condoning the London attacks, as some people have suggested. "In short, no. I don't believe this is the reason at all," he replied via Twitter direct messages. "A minute's silence is seen in the more conservative interpretation of Islam prevalent in Saudi as a 'Bida'h', something that the prophet Muhammad never did so they should not be doing...In practice, what that means is that Saudis never observe minutes of silence for any incidents, even the death of their own king or fellow citizens."

https://sports.vice.com/en_ca/artic...am-didnt-observe-moment-of-silence-for-london
 

pmv

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The Saudis are a military, political and religious arm of the West. They are funded and propped up by the West. Yet, these are the same guys many Western leaders and media love to hate. What a joke.

But everything in this world is upside down so why not this.

But on the whole, Western leaders and media are very easy on the Saudis (and also the Turks - though recently that's soured slightly as Erdogan has gone more and more off-message, but in the past the Turkish Islamists were the Islamists the Western media liked to praise, Murdoch media in particular). The media can't really avoid reporting some of the bad things 'our' Conservative Muslims do, but the spin is nothing like it is for, say, Iran or Hezbollah or the Palestinians. Anti-Islam sentiment waxes and wanes depending on economic and strategic interests.
 
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