Our Universe

[ViperXX]

It was created from nothing.

All the energy that is in the known universe was created from the big bang.

Which was nothing before the big bang. Where did the energy come from. There was nothing.

Explain that scientists.

 

[BoomerD]

Sorry...I had Mexican the night before. :$

 

[IronWing]

When a zipper is zipped, it shows no teeth. When it is unzipped, OMG! Teeth everywhere.

 

[lozina]

Before the big bang was a big bomb. It was lit by a big lighter.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Whatever created the universe - there was no such thing as time before it existed. No dimensions existed at all.

Regardless of your beliefs on the origin of the universe (God, non-God big bang, we're just in a big dome on a spaceship, this is the matrix), there has to be something that we can't possibly fathom - either it had no beginning and has always existed or it had a beginning and there was nothing before the beginning.

 

[SlitheryDee]

http://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothi.../dp/1451624468

Lawrence Krauss answers your precise question better than I ever could. If you really want to know the best answer we have you'll read it. If you refuse to read it i take that as admission that you didn't really want to know.

 

[disappoint]

You're wasting your time trying to find out the unknown when there is so much that is knowable that you have yet to discover.

 

[Iron Woode]

I believe in the Great Green Arklseizure creation story.

 

[ViperXX]

You're wasting your time trying to find out the unknown when there is so much that is knowable that you have yet to discover.

The atoms that make up our sun, the solar system, your body was created by a sun that is billions of years older than our sun. It just boggles the mind thinking about it.

 

[BoomerD]

You're wasting your time trying to find out the unknown when there is so much that is knowable that you have yet to discover.

But the "knowable" is unknown until it's known...if people followed your advice, we'd still be living in caves, eating raw meat.

 

[IronWing]

I believe in the Great Green Arklseizure creation story.

You get the weirdest results if you do a google image search of Great Green Arklseizure. One of the images that comes up is one I used in a spoof image twelve years ago. Small world.

 

[disappoint]

But the "knowable" is unknown until it's known...if people followed your advice, we'd still be living in caves, eating raw meat.

My point was that what he's trying to do is akin to a contractor trying to build the top floor before building the foundation. Like trying to read the last page of a book before reading the rest. Like a first grader trying to learn calculus before the prerequisite math first.

There is a lot to learn before the advanced concepts to get the best understanding of them. This is one of the reasons I dislike popular science books written for laypersons as they are forced to leave a lot of what I feel are important details out.

If they inspire someone to learn more of a subject its great, but not as a substitute for a more thorough understanding which can give people a false sense of understanding, or worse, total confusion or incorrect assumptions from a lack of essential background information.

 

[Printer Bandit]

all i need to know about what was before the universe was created is in the in scriptures.

 

[BoomerD]

My point was that what he's trying to do is akin to a contractor trying to build the top floor before building the foundation. Like trying to read the last page of a book before reading the rest. Like a first grader trying to learn calculus before the prerequisite math first.

There is a lot to learn before the advanced concepts to get the best understanding of them. This is one of the reasons I dislike popular science books written for laypersons as they are forced to leave a lot of what I feel are important details out.

If they inspire someone to learn more of a subject its great, but not as a substitute for a more thorough understanding which can give people a false sense of understanding, or worse, total confusion or incorrect assumptions from a lack of essential background information.

But...when talking about the "origins of the universe," it's still all just fancy guess work...no one really knows what happened, when or where it happened, or if there even was a when or where when it happened.

 

[OutHouse]

this is the answer to your question, OP.

 

[Fritzo]

The universe was not created from nothing. It started from a point infinitely dense which exploded for an unknown reason.

It you want to blow your mind, consider that 49% of the matter created in the big bang was antimatter, and 51% was matter. Most of it annihilated each other, and everything you see today is made from that leftover 1%.

 

[sandorski]

The universe was not created from nothing. It started from a point infinitely dense which exploded for an unknown reason.

It you want to blow your mind, consider that 49% of the matter created in the big bang was antimatter, and 51% was matter. Most of it annihilated each other, and everything you see today is made from that leftover 1%.

There was no explosion, just expansion.

 

[DaveSimmons]

"A wizard did it" makes so much more sense.

I'm convinced. Hail god! He who created himself out of, uh . . . nothing . . . which is so much more plausible because, um . . . . he's a wizard?

 

[PaganBeef]

all i need to know about what was before the universe was created is in the in scriptures.

I respect this, and you admit you have a foundational bias.

 

[Jaskalas]

It was created from nothing.

All the energy that is in the known universe was created from the big bang.

Which was nothing before the big bang. Where did the energy come from. There was nothing.

Explain that scientists.

Every possible answer results in the renewed question of "where did X come from?" X being the previous answer. This infinite loop results in a question that cannot be answered.

Whatever their explanation, it cannot be whole. It cannot be correct.

 

[disappoint]

But...when talking about the "origins of the universe," it's still all just fancy guess work...no one really knows what happened, when or where it happened, or if there even was a when or where when it happened.

That's exactly what I was hinting at in my first post. There is a lot that is knowable that is worth chasing down before trying to tackle the unknowable (for now) and ending up frustrated, or worse stoop to the level of guessing. Leave the guesswork to the clergy.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Why is it assumed that nothing existed before our universe came into being? That pov seems more than a bit short-sighted. That's one major problem I have with the viewpoint of most religions - that we are the special, chosen ones created to exist on a relatively obscure planet in a galaxy with a billion stars, in a universe with a billion galaxies. Doesn't that seem a bit egocentric? Who is to say there is only one universe too? There may be billions of them as well.

 

[BoomerD]

Why is it assumed that nothing existed before our universe came into being? That pov seems more than a bit short-sighted. That's one major problem I have with the viewpoint of most religions - that we are the special, chosen ones created to exist on a relatively obscure planet in a galaxy with a billion stars, in a universe with a billion galaxies. Doesn't that seem a bit egocentric? Who is to say there is only one universe too? There may be billions of them as well.

“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.” ― Carl Sagan

 

[disappoint]

“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.” ― Carl Sagan

That's a brilliant observation by Sagan.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

"The universe came from nothing" is just another way to say that the universe didn't come from anything. There was nothing that the universe came from. This is how one describes a universe without a beginning, and for that proposition I have no objection.